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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #125 on: February 23, 2017, 02:58:23 PM »
This is in my honest opinion look you just cannot achieve by injecting shit and eating right in few years. THis is a look that actually requires proper structure, dedication and years of training. He's DENSE. You don't see that look at the Olympia stage anymore except from few guys really. But you can meet guys like that in gyms all over the world. Not willing to compete, huge cartoon like freaks with dense muscle training for 15 years just on roids with limited budgets.


 ::)...he had extraordinary genes, that is all

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #126 on: February 23, 2017, 06:51:22 PM »
The Nautilus Pullover was the first Nautilus machine developed by Arthur Jones. He wanted fully isolate the lats because he felt the biceps, forearms/grip were the weak links in traditional pulling movements done for lats/back. The lats are such a large muscle group compare to the biceps so the biceps would fail first before make deep inroads into the lats. If you remember, the original pullover was coupled with a pull down so you could do pre exhaust with the pullover and go immediately to the pull down.

It fell out of favor because most people simply did it wrong. They would pull with their hands rather than drive with their elbows defeating the purpose of the machine. I use to dispense even touching the bar with my hands and just position my elbows on the pad and just keep my arms bent at a 90 degree angle and just drive with my elbows. This movement mimicked the front under grip pull down except full range of motion, your elbows would stretch back to behind your ears and go down all the way to your waist. No arms. Just pure lats.

He also developed another brilliant piece that mimicked the traditional front wide grip pull down except, again, the resistance was on the elbows/upper arms (by passing the biceps) and again a full range of motion. Twice the range than the traditional pulldown as your bicep would press against your ears and go down to your waist.

Again, it fell out of favor as most had to taught how to use it correctly therefore most used it wrong.

Jones was a genius.




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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #127 on: February 24, 2017, 12:46:03 AM »
Thanks for posting the pics. Sergio vs Arnold in the 1970 Mr World was the first time I saw a real bodybuilder.
I was 12 and the contest was shown live on ABC's Wide World of Sports on saturday in prime time.
I wanted to be a bodybuilder ever since.
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Same with me when i was 4yrs old seeing lee haney and rich gaspari on tv. Probably mr. Olympia when they still televised it on regular tv since we only had the old school tv with a dial, no remote. Lol

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #128 on: February 25, 2017, 03:42:37 AM »
what is the real story of him getting shot as a cop?

Don't know all the facts but I will repeat what I heard. He was having a fight with his wife. She got his service revolver. It was a .357 magnum loaded with .38 special 158 grain plus P lead hollow points. She shot him in the stomach at point blank range. How he recovered from that is beyond me.

The other time was when he was in the Army in Cuba. A guy shot him in the arm.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #129 on: February 25, 2017, 04:10:37 AM »
what is the real story of him getting shot as a cop?

His wife got tired of getting her ass kicked by him , she took his gun and shot him.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-07-25/news/8602230659_1_body-building-mr-universe-world-cup-seven-times

Ex-mr. Universe Turned Cop Shot In Quarrel With His Wife
July 25, 1986|By Philip Wattley and Edward Baumann.
Rogers Park District Patrol Officer Sergio Oliva, 45, an internationally recognized body-builder and former Mr. Universe, was in serious condition after being shot during an argument with his wife in their North Side home Thursday.

Investigators said preliminary reports indicated the shooting occurred after Oliva struck his wife twice. In a statement before undergoing surgery in St. Francis Hospital, Evanston, for a wound in the lower right abdomen, Oliva reportedly said the gun went off accidentally while he and his wife struggled in the bedroom.




Mrs. Oliva initially told investigators that she ran to the bedroom after Oliva struck her to get a .38 caliber revolver and that she shot him after he followed and struck her a second time. Mrs. Oliva is a body builder and operates a body-building clinic with her husband. Oliva was off duty at the time.

According to initial the reports, his wife helped Oliva down the stairs from their third-floor apartment after the shooting, and they waited in the street for an ambulance, which neighbors had called.

Oliva has won every professional body-building title in the world. Because of his 23-inch biceps he was known as the ``strong arm of the law.``

He defected from Cuba in 1962, taking with him all 32 members of Cuba`s weight-lifting team at the Pan American Games in Kingston, Jamaica.

He came to Chicago two years later and studied English at Wells High School to qualify for citizenship.

Oliva worked as a foundry worker and meatpacker for several years before being hired as a YMCA physical education instructor. He became interested in police work while employed as a civilian physical education instructor at the Chicago Police Academy.

Because of his dimensions--a 60-inch chest, 27-inch waist and 32-inch thighs--his police uniforms must be specially made.

The titles he has won include Mr. World at Montreal in 1966; Mr. Universe at Munich in 1967, 1968 and 1969; Mr. America in 1970; and Mr. Europe in 1981. He defeated Arnold Schwarzenegger in 1968 and 1969 in body-building competitions, and he won the World Cup seven times, three times in a row.

He also appeared in three movies produced in Mexico.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #130 on: February 25, 2017, 05:55:25 AM »
The Nautilus Pullover was the first Nautilus machine developed by Arthur Jones. He wanted fully isolate the lats because he felt the biceps, forearms/grip were the weak links in traditional pulling movements done for lats/back. The lats are such a large muscle group compare to the biceps so the biceps would fail first before make deep inroads into the lats. If you remember, the original pullover was coupled with a pull down so you could do pre exhaust with the pullover and go immediately to the pull down.

It fell out of favor because most people simply did it wrong. They would pull with their hands rather than drive with their elbows defeating the purpose of the machine. I use to dispense even touching the bar with my hands and just position my elbows on the pad and just keep my arms bent at a 90 degree angle and just drive with my elbows. This movement mimicked the front under grip pull down except full range of motion, your elbows would stretch back to behind your ears and go down all the way to your waist. No arms. Just pure lats.

He also developed another brilliant piece that mimicked the traditional front wide grip pull down except, again, the resistance was on the elbows/upper arms (by passing the biceps) and again a full range of motion. Twice the range than the traditional pulldown as your bicep would press against your ears and go down to your waist.

Again, it fell out of favor as most had to taught how to use it correctly therefore most used it wrong.

Jones was a genius.






We have the same model yates uses in our gym, for me soon as you add weight it causes pain in the shoulders, whether you use your hands or not. I have good back development and feel my lats burst in all my other movements too

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #131 on: February 25, 2017, 06:55:23 AM »
 1971. Sergio and Nautilus machine  :D

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #132 on: February 25, 2017, 06:56:52 AM »
1972 .. 2 days after Olympia in UK  ;)

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #133 on: February 25, 2017, 07:00:12 AM »
1972 Mr Olympia backstage. Arnold & Sergio  8)

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #134 on: February 25, 2017, 07:05:39 AM »
1972 .. 2 days after Olympia in UK  ;)

Wow it really was Sergio's best year...he actually had great conditioning for once...and solid abs.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #135 on: February 25, 2017, 08:11:38 AM »


One of the best IMO

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2017, 10:47:47 AM »
1972, Essen

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« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2019, 04:11:58 AM »
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« Reply #138 on: August 03, 2019, 08:11:24 AM »
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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #139 on: August 03, 2019, 10:11:41 AM »
How he recovered from that is beyond me.

 He said in an interview that he had so much muscle that it stopped the bullet from penetrating his major organs. It also made retrieving the bullet a bitch for the surgeons.

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« Reply #140 on: August 03, 2019, 10:25:08 AM »
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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #141 on: August 03, 2019, 03:43:45 PM »
He said in an interview that he had so much muscle that it stopped the bullet from penetrating his major organs. It also made retrieving the bullet a bitch for the surgeons.

I read somewhere that even to today, the incident is still referred to in Chicago medical folk lore. Can't remember where.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #142 on: August 05, 2019, 07:34:26 AM »
1972 .. 2 days after Olympia in UK  ;)

It’s amazing how huge Sergio looks when on his own
Yet in that pic with an untrained overweight photographer
He doesn’t look large at all.

Great Bone Structure & Muscle Bellies - Tiny waist.
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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #143 on: August 05, 2019, 07:38:58 AM »
It’s amazing how huge Sergio looks when on his own
Yet in that pic with an untrained overweight photographer
He doesn’t look large at all.

Great Bone Structure & Muscle Bellies - Tiny waist.
One of The Very Best Ever.



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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #144 on: August 05, 2019, 07:40:40 AM »
It’s amazing how huge Sergio looks when on his own
Yet in that pic with an untrained overweight photographer
He doesn’t look large at all.

Great Bone Structure & Muscle Bellies - Tiny waist.
One of The Very Best Ever.


Of course one of the best ever. No argument there.
As Sergio not dwarfing the photographer. Probablly just the angle.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #145 on: August 05, 2019, 07:53:14 AM »
Nothing to do with the angle - He’s Just not Structurally physically big.
A True Body Builder - Small bone structure & joints, Big Full Muscle Bellies
Giving him the illusion of huge size.
That isn’t to say he wasn’t muscularly Big.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #146 on: August 05, 2019, 10:12:38 AM »
Nothing to do with the angle - He’s Just not Structurally physically big.
A True Body Builder - Small bone structure & joints, Big Full Muscle Bellies
Giving him the illusion of huge size.
That isn’t to say he wasn’t muscularly Big.


I get what you trying to say. A contrast to bone structure to let say Arnold. Still i call on angle making dude next to him bigger than in reality. He is closer to the camera thing  ;D




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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #147 on: August 05, 2019, 11:30:58 AM »
Sergio in 1981

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #148 on: August 05, 2019, 12:10:08 PM »
I get what you trying to say. A contrast to bone structure to let say Arnold. Still i call on angle making dude next to him bigger than in reality. He is closer to the camera thing  ;D





Arnold’s bone structure is /was very light - Look At His Wrists / Knees / ankles
Only his hips were a bit boxy - Again Arnold looked a Lot Bigger Than He was
Because of Muscle Fulness & shape on a Light Skeletal structure.

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Re: Ridiculous pics of Sergio Oliva!
« Reply #149 on: August 06, 2019, 12:08:08 AM »
Arnold’s bone structure is /was very light - Look At His Wrists / Knees / ankles
Only his hips were a bit boxy - Again Arnold looked a Lot Bigger Than He was
Because of Muscle Fulness & shape on a Light Skeletal structure.

Arnold's posing, vacuum make his waist a non issue.
Don't know whose skeleton is bigger.
Forgot that Arnold and Sergio have similar bone tickness therefore similar body type.
Would persume both would be more mesomorph.