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27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« on: August 29, 2011, 02:58:53 PM »
One in four Democrats wants to dump Obama
by Byron York Chief Political Correspondent
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http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/one-four-democrats-wants-dump-obama




A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

In response to the question, "Do you think the Democratic party should renominate Barack Obama as the party's candidate for president in 2012, or do you think the Democratic party should nominate a different candidate for president in 2012?" -- 72 percent said they wanted to see Obama renominated.  But 27 percent, slightly more than one in every four, said they wanted to see Democrats nominate a different candidate.  One percent had no opinion.

The poll was taken August 24-25.  In a survey taken in early August, 28 percent of Democrats said they wanted a different candidate.  Polls taken in July and before showed Obama in a stronger position, with no more than 22 percent saying they preferred a different candidate.  The current poll is based on interviews with 463 Democrats and has a margin of error of 4.5 percent.

The new poll is another indication of Democratic unhappiness with the president, but it does not mean Obama will face a challenge in his party's primaries.  Despite the complaints of a few liberals like Sen. Bernard Sanders, the odds of a Democrat opposing the president appear to be something less than zero.  But the new poll is still a matter of concern to Democrats, because it is yet another indication that there is significant disillusionment with the president within his own party.  Whether those disaffected Democrats will come around to supporting Obama next year is an open question -- and perhaps the most worrying of the president's re-election bid.



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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2011, 04:38:23 PM »
 :o  He is so screwed.  Cannot move to the left to shore up his base without further alienating the independents and Republicans who put him in office. 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2011, 05:11:17 PM »
Lurker straw and others tell me I am cracked for thinking he is in serious trouble.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2011, 05:16:22 PM »
One in four Democrats wants to dump Obama
by Byron York Chief Political Correspondent
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http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/one-four-democrats-wants-dump-obama




A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

In response to the question, "Do you think the Democratic party should renominate Barack Obama as the party's candidate for president in 2012, or do you think the Democratic party should nominate a different candidate for president in 2012?" -- 72 percent said they wanted to see Obama renominated.   But 27 percent, slightly more than one in every four, said they wanted to see Democrats nominate a different candidate.  One percent had no opinion.

The poll was taken August 24-25.  In a survey taken in early August, 28 percent of Democrats said they wanted a different candidate.  Polls taken in July and before showed Obama in a stronger position, with no more than 22 percent saying they preferred a different candidate.  The current poll is based on interviews with 463 Democrats and has a margin of error of 4.5 percent.

The new poll is another indication of Democratic unhappiness with the president, but it does not mean Obama will face a challenge in his party's primaries.  Despite the complaints of a few liberals like Sen. Bernard Sanders, the odds of a Democrat opposing the president appear to be something less than zero.  But the new poll is still a matter of concern to Democrats, because it is yet another indication that there is significant disillusionment with the president within his own party.  Whether those disaffected Democrats will come around to supporting Obama next year is an open question -- and perhaps the most worrying of the president's re-election bid.
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perfect example of how you pick one part of one article that you think supports your belief and just ignore the rest of it


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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2011, 05:18:30 PM »
Lurker straw and others tell me I am cracked for thinking he is in serious trouble.

At this point, I don't see how he wins a second term.  Politics aside, the man is incompetent.  His record is terrible.  He has displayed terrible judgment.  He failed to keep numerous promises. 

That's why his poll numbers are so bad.  It's a reflection of his job performance. 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2011, 06:00:15 PM »
At this point, I don't see how he wins a second term.  Politics aside, the man is incompetent.  His record is terrible.  He has displayed terrible judgment.  He failed to keep numerous promises. 

That's why his poll numbers are so bad.  It's a reflection of his job performance. 

The poll numbers are bad because the economy is bad and folks expect the President (any President) to be a miracle worker. Politicians make promises they can't keep all the time. I am not saying this is right; it just is. As for the other failings you mention regarding President Obama, that is a matter of opinion, probably yours. Time will tell if he was a President worth his salt or not.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2011, 06:03:59 PM »
At this point, I don't see how he wins a second term.  Politics aside, the man is incompetent.  His record is terrible.  He has displayed terrible judgment.  He failed to keep numerous promises. 

That's why his poll numbers are so bad.  It's a reflection of his job performance. 

simple

Repubs nominate a weak and flawed candidate

Any one of the top three would fit the bill


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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2011, 06:05:08 PM »
Obamacare alone will make him a one term potus.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2011, 06:06:11 PM »
At this point, I don't see how he wins a second term.  Politics aside, the man is incompetent.  His record is terrible.  He has displayed terrible judgment.  He failed to keep numerous promises. 

That's why his poll numbers are so bad.  It's a reflection of his job performance. 

The problem is going to be is that you still have a lot of people (like the one's on here) who still believe it's Bush's fault and it's going to take a second term for Obama to fix it, that, and still more people (the lazy one's) who believe that Obama is still going to pay their bills (Benny).

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2011, 06:08:03 PM »
simple

Repubs nominate a weak and flawed candidate

Any one of the top three would fit the bill



No one and I mean NO ONE is more flawed than Obama, not even Carter.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2011, 06:16:27 PM »
No one and I mean NO ONE is more flawed than Obama, not even Carter.

I can think of at least 3 who are more flawed

Romney
Bachmann
Perry

none of them will have the broad appeal to do well in a general election

people will hold their nose and vote for Obama

Let's hope that the tea party backlish will continue to grow and by the time of the general election the Dems can wind back the house and solidify the majority in the Senate


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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 06:19:47 PM »
Are you nuts?  Rommney is ahed in florida, bama has horrible numbers in pa, and is at 38 in gallup. 

Romney would kill obama at this point.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2011, 06:21:43 PM »
Are you nuts?  Rommney is ahed in florida, bama has horrible numbers in pa, and is at 38 in gallup. 

Romney would kill obama at this point.

anyone who thinks they can predcit an election from 15 months out is nuts

shit, McCain was beating Obama in the polls until a few weeks before he got stomped like a bug

The Repubs, as of yet, have NO ONE that will present a challenge to Obama

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2011, 06:23:42 PM »
anyone who thinks they can predcit an election from 15 months out is nuts
shit, McCain was beating Obama in the polls until a few weeks before he got stomped like a bug
The Repubs, as of yet, have NO ONE that will present a challenge to Obama

This is true - Mccain did lead Obama in some polls in summer 2008.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2011, 06:34:03 PM »
This is true - Mccain did lead Obama in some polls in summer 2008.

Yeah for about a week. 

Again - what you guys forget is that Bama had every possible advantage in 2008 and still only won by 5 points.   

Now, with his horrible record of failure if he loses only a few percentage points he loses.   

Can anyone possibly say he is more popular now than in 2008? 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2011, 06:40:34 PM »
Bama had every possible advantage in 2008 and still only won by 5 points.   

this is true... the reverend wright video playing 24/7 on FOX was a major advantage.

And a middle name like "Hussein" being beought up 24/7 really helped too.

Come to think of it, Rush Limbaugh hinting about a non-existent "whitey tape" definitely helped him too.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2011, 06:48:04 PM »
This is true - Mccain did lead Obama in some polls in summer 2008.

since when did a facts matter to 333

he still thinks Obama isn't running even though the article he posted to support such a claim stated there was less than there was less than a zero chance of a Dem challenger.

the dude lives in his own fantasy world

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2011, 06:54:07 PM »
since when did a facts matter to 333

he still thinks Obama isn't running even though the article he posted to support such a claim stated there was less than there was less than a zero chance of a Dem challenger.

the dude lives in his own fantasy world

cCain led for a small period at best but ran a horrible campaign and that was before the economy tanked in lae September and McCain suspended his campaign.   

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2011, 06:59:35 PM »
cCain led for a small period at best but ran a horrible campaign and that was before the economy tanked in lae September and McCain suspended his campaign.   

yeah and what kind of campaign do you think Romney or Bachmann or Perry is going to run

Obama is going to look, speak and appear Presidential next to those idiots

Still though, I expect you'll be in denial that Obama is even running right up until election night

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2011, 07:03:33 PM »
yeah and what kind of campaign do you think Romney or Bachmann or Perry is going to run

Obama is going to look, speak and appear Presidential next to those idiots

Still though, I expect you'll be in denial that Obama is even running right up until election night


McCain was a disaster and did not remotely motive the base to coe out.    the base is so fired up to oust Obama, a potted plant will be better than Obama.   

I have worked elections for years and can say McCain was the worst I have ever seen by far, no ground game, nothing.  Romney or perry won't have that issue. 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2011, 07:04:08 PM »
The poll numbers are bad because the economy is bad and folks expect the President (any President) to be a miracle worker. Politicians make promises they can't keep all the time. I am not saying this is right; it just is. As for the other failings you mention regarding President Obama, that is a matter of opinion, probably yours. Time will tell if he was a President worth his salt or not.

It's true the poll numbers are bad in large part because of the economy.  The president should get credit or blame for the performance of the national economy, particularly when he runs for office claiming he can fix it.  And when he rams a stimulus down the public's throat that he claims will improve it.  And when he "inherits" a bad economy and makes it worse.  That's the way it is, and the way it should be.  

Yes, my comments about his incompetence, record, judgment, and broken promises are partly my opinion, but I can give you specific examples of each if you want.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2011, 07:05:38 PM »
The problem is going to be is that you still have a lot of people (like the one's on here) who still believe it's Bush's fault and it's going to take a second term for Obama to fix it, that, and still more people (the lazy one's) who believe that Obama is still going to pay their bills (Benny).

Aint that the truth.  I have talked to a couple of Obama-bots recently.  It was almost like an out of body experience.  Amazing what some people believe about the leaders they like (or love), regardless of the facts. 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2011, 07:07:40 PM »
Probably the 35 percent of guilt ridden white leftists left who still support this fiasco.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2011, 07:09:28 PM »

McCain was a disaster and did not remotely motive the base to coe out.    the base is so fired up to oust Obama, a potted plant will be better than Obama.   

I have worked elections for years and can say McCain was the worst I have ever seen by far, no ground game, nothing.  Romney or perry won't have that issue. 

Romney is a job killing elitist flip flopper with a kooky religion

Bachmann and Perry are both certifiable (which is why you relate the them and like them so much)


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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2011, 07:12:01 PM »
Aint that the truth.  I have talked to a couple of Obama-bots recently.  It was almost like an out of body experience.  Amazing what some people believe about the leaders they like (or love), regardless of the facts. 

what do you expect them to do

vote for a religious kook like Bachmann or Perry

or vote for Romney who changes his beliefs every time the wind blows a different direction

Dems and Independents will have no option but to vote the for Obama