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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2011, 07:34:43 PM »
what do you expect them to do

vote for a religious kook like Bachmann or Perry

or vote for Romney who changes his beliefs every time the wind blows a different direction

Dems and Independents will have no option but to vote the for Obama

Or they can stay home.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2011, 07:55:07 PM »
Strawman, you can't say that about those three rebubs, at least they have records and experiance they can go off of plus they have successfully held held public office. Obama had nothing to run from with little political experiance and what experiance he did have left a horrible record of failure.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2011, 08:02:13 PM »
Strawman, you can't say that about those three rebubs, at least they have records and experiance they can go off of plus they have successfully held held public office. Obama had nothing to run from with little political experiance and what experiance he did have left a horrible record of failure.

their records are what will hang them

the nuttiness is just a bonus

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2011, 08:03:15 PM »
their records are what will hang them

the nuttiness is just a bonus

And Obamas record? 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2011, 08:04:34 PM »
Or they can stay home.
that could happen

we'll see

Presidential elections are different and don't forget

you see teabaggers on the rise and somehow think they are appealing and I see them as a liability for the Repubs

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2011, 08:06:52 PM »
And Obamas record? 

saved the economy

passed landmark healthcare legislation

killed bin laden

looks and sounds the part

the alterntive sucks (fill in Repub nominee)

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2011, 08:13:27 PM »
saved the economy

passed landmark healthcare legislation

killed bin laden

looks and sounds the part

the alterntive sucks (fill in Repub nominee)

healthcare still has 55 percent favoring repeal.  And UE is over 9 percent.   No one thinks he saved anything but those who already will vote for him.   as for OBL, I doubt people will base their vote on that a year from now.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2011, 08:31:15 PM »
He killed obl? No he didn't, he have the order under Bush's policies. 90% Bush 10% Obama for saying "ok".

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2011, 08:33:52 PM »
Straw, you are so delusional. Voting for Obama over Romney would be like voting for Barabas over Jesus. Give me a break. Romney would be one of the most qualified men to be President in a long time. Obama is easily one of the  least qualified.

Obama has absolutely no managerial experience and it has showed these past 2.5 years.
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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2011, 08:34:43 PM »
He killed obl? No he didn't, he have the order under Bush's policies. 90% Bush 10% Obama for saying "ok".

LOL

I'm sure that's how everyone will remember it

why didn't you throw in that Clinton was responsible for 9/11 too

then you would have had Bush not responsible for 9/11 while also being responsible killing bin laden

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2011, 08:36:24 PM »
healthcare still has 55 percent favoring repeal.  And UE is over 9 percent.   No one thinks he saved anything but those who already will vote for him.   as for OBL, I doubt people will base their vote on that a year from now.

you're entitled to your opinion

I've already stated mine

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2011, 08:41:50 PM »
Clinton knew of his of his exact location at least 10x's and CNN reported interviews Bin Laden during that time. How come nothing was done?

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2011, 08:44:00 PM »
LOL

I'm sure that's how everyone will remember it

why didn't you throw in that Clinton was responsible for 9/11 too

then you would have had Bush not responsible for 9/11 while also being responsible killing bin laden

The guy that led them to the compound was discovered in 2007 when Bush was still in office. His existence was discovered in 2004 from an Al- Quaida terrorist that was captured in Iraq. Do you dispute these things?
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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2011, 09:25:49 PM »
Clinton knew of his of his exact location at least 10x's and CNN reported interviews Bin Laden during that time. How come nothing was done?

same reason Bush didn't kill him

It took Obama to do the job

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2011, 09:29:36 PM »
what do you expect them to do

vote for a religious kook like Bachmann or Perry

or vote for Romney who changes his beliefs every time the wind blows a different direction

Dems and Independents will have no option but to vote the for Obama


Exactly, Bachman and Perry are too far to the right so there's no way a Democrat will ever vote for them.  Romney may get votes from independents and some Democrats but he will practically lose the entire GOP religious base because he's a Mormon.  The GOP spent so much time in 2008 accusing Obama of being a Muslim instead of a Christian that they've poisoned the water for Romney.

It will be an interesting election, but Obama is still going to be elected. 
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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2011, 03:12:24 AM »
You clowns are in such denial itd not even funny. 

Again - look at the damn math!

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2011, 08:10:00 AM »
same reason Bush didn't kill him

It took Obama to do the job

Yeah? Think it would have been the same outcome if Obama had his way and changed the intell that Bush put into place? Think about it. Obama didn't do crap except take the advice of his advisers who said "pull the trigger". 

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2011, 08:21:46 AM »
Yeah? Think it would have been the same outcome if Obama had his way and changed the intell that Bush put into place? Think about it. Obama didn't do crap except take the advice of his advisers who said "pull the trigger". 

still, obama approved the incursion into pakistan, 2 blocks from a military base, and killed paki citizens.  Major move there.  If OBL isn't found there, you have Rush and FOX bashing the shit out of obama for 2 years for his incompetence and disrespect for soverign nations.

Bush didn't pull the trigger on OBL in 2005/2006 because the risk assessment said there were too many factors, mainly paki state independence.  Obama was bold in doing that, we all have to admit it.   We can say he's a d-bag when it comes to healthcare and economy, which is totally true.

But to send in troops to kill and break int'l law to get the bad guy - you gotta high five to that, no matter what president.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2011, 08:51:10 AM »
still, obama approved the incursion into pakistan, 2 blocks from a military base, and killed paki citizens.  Major move there.  If OBL isn't found there, you have Rush and FOX bashing the shit out of obama for 2 years for his incompetence and disrespect for soverign nations.

Bush didn't pull the trigger on OBL in 2005/2006 because the risk assessment said there were too many factors, mainly paki state independence.  Obama was bold in doing that, we all have to admit it.   We can say he's a d-bag when it comes to healthcare and economy, which is totally true.

But to send in troops to kill and break int'l law to get the bad guy - you gotta high five to that, no matter what president.

Thank you for shutting that mental midget up with hard facts.

Unlike little Bushie, who had Osama cornered in Tora Bora and let him escape, Obama didn't.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2011, 08:58:54 AM »
Thank you for shutting that mental midget up with hard facts.

Unlike little Bushie, who had Osama cornered in Tora Bora and let him escape, Obama didn't.

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and not one assertion by 240 is sources and I am shut up.  got it.   

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2011, 09:05:35 AM »
Thank you for shutting that mental midget up with hard facts.

Unlike little Bushie, who had Osama cornered in Tora Bora and let him escape, Obama didn't.

Actually.....no.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2011, 09:09:12 AM »
Tora bora... we cannot argue taht, fellahs.  There was ONE north road out of tora bora. 

The USA chose to leave it unbombed and allowed a 1000-car caravan to escape.

The leaders of other countries and our generals alike were SCREAMING on the news every single day.  STOP THEM!


I can understand - you kill OBL then, and you can't get the wars you want.  you NEED a boogeyman.  if you kill hitler in 1940, we never get in WWII despite a pearl harbor.

So historically, in the name of winning wars, setting up bases, maintaining drugs and currency status quo... we HAD to leave OBL alive for a few more years.

if you disagree, grow up and take off the blinders and stop thinking with your moralisty or political siding.  It is how the world works.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2011, 09:10:02 AM »
Wow you guys are bickering over who gets credit for OBL?

How gay.  (not that there is anything wrong with that  ;D)

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2011, 09:25:12 AM »
saved the economy...LOL!! Saved the economy. If this is saving the economy, I don't want to know what killing it would be like. He didnt' save anything. Every indicator is terrible and his stim bill did not keep UE to the levels he claimed. More home foreclosures. Constant 400k weekly UE applications. Banks are still on trouble. Bank of America needed a bailout from Buffett. If it's true he saved the economy, how come his poll numbers are so low? You are delusional.

passed landmark healthcare legislation..How did that help the economy? It won't be "landmark" once the Supreme court rules it unconstitutional.

killed bin laden...He dropped down from that helicopter?

looks and sounds the part...So does Romney and you won't vote for him.

the alterntive sucks (fill in Repub nominee)...No it doesn't. Obama sucks bigger moose balls than Carter ever did.

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Re: 27% of Democrats want someone other than Obama in 2012
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2011, 09:43:25 AM »
According to Chris Matthews those 27% are racists.