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Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« on: September 01, 2011, 11:54:56 PM »
The infallibility of our God of Hormones in regard to hormones has been well documented and beyond reproach. Just by smell, color and watching how the oil slides slowly down the vile he can determine the specific hormone and it's level of purity (the greenish tint and shoe smell of equipona is best left to the experts). Who the good cooks are. Who balonies you. And just by looking at someone he can tell what product or products that person is on and how much mgs or grams he is on with a degree of accuracy of 94.75% if going only by pictures. The accuracy rate rises to 97.09% if he views you in person. Coincidently, this corresponds exactly to the purity levels of Nordic's Blue Tops vs. his Red Tops.  


And his level of intelligence is extraordinary and therefore he can speak with authority on a variety of issues and topics: Americana whores, time travel, contemporary music and movies, sushi and pineapple juice spike with androlona, aliens, and the downfall of modern Western society as we know it and the rise and the inevitable world conquest by the Chinese empire. After all, our government doesn't just hand out Luna level security clearances to just anybody.
Ask George Bush Sr.

But, outside of hormones, he is not without flaws and transgressions. Who can forget his support of John Edwards? Or how he and Rick conspired to have Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate. So it was with good reason that I doubted his campaign promoting the drinking of raw egg whites. Studies were pretty conclusive and unanimous that raw egg whites are not digested properly. But a new twist recently entered this ongoing discussion. That was the effect of pasteurization. So it was back to do some more research. This is an article from someone who seems to have researched the subject thoroughly and seems to know what he's talking about. I highlighted the main point we are interested in. Suffice to say I bought six 32 oz cartons earlier today with 24 grams of protein for every 8 ounces. They were on sale here in Hawaii for $5.19 per carton. I imagine it's cheaper on the mainland. I also bought some Agave as a sweetener. Though I slightly deviated from the recipe it's still in full accord with the philosophy of Mary Poppins who use to say, "Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down."  

The Article:

I will try to be thorough, take notes if necessary so you may pass this info on to others young body builders, who will undoubtedly ask this question every week from now until the end of time. This is just a summary of about 10,000 egg articles I've read, and about the 30th time I've posted the info .

 Yes you can eat raw eggs/whites, but the whole eggs or carton eggs must be pasteurized (it will say so on the carton). Pasteurization is when they heat the egg/egg product enough to kill all the bacteria (including salmonella) and the protein digestion inhibitors (usually126-140 degrees). If you eat non-pasteurized eggs/egg products your body cannot utilize the protein in them due to the presence of a protein inhibitor. And while you may get salmonella from raw eggs/egg product the chances are 1 in 10,000 for regular eggs and 1 in 30,000 for free range eggs.

 Avidin is a glycoprotein, which is found in raw egg whites, and blocks the uptake of Vitamin B6 and Vitamin H (Biotin) causing a vitamin deficiency (it binds to Biotin and iron making them unavailable). You must cook/pasteurize the egg white to neutralize the Avidin and allow your body to safely digest the protein and utilize all its amino acids. Cooking egg whites at high temperatures denatures some of the amino acids which makes the proteins slightly less effective (slower digesting). A soft boiled or poached egg (at 70% albumin coagulation) is digested much easier as opposed to a fried or hard boiled egg. 2 soft boiled/poached eggs spend less than 2 hours in the stomach being digested, where 2 fried/hard boiled eggs spend over 3 hours in the stomach. Although fried/hard cooked eggs are digested just as completely as soft cooked eggs, it just takes longer for them to be completely digested and assimilated.

 An egg white is about 10% protein and 90% water. It’s the proteins that cause the egg white to solidify when you cook it. Egg white proteins are long chains of amino acids. In a raw egg, these proteins are curled and folded to form a compact ball. Weak bonds between amino acids hold the proteins in this shape—until you turn up the heat. When heated, the weak bonds break and the protein unfolds. Then its amino acids form weak bonds with the amino acids of other proteins, a process called coagulation. The resulting network of proteins captures water, making a soft, digestible gel.

 If you keep the heat turned up too high or too long when you cook an egg, the proteins in the egg white form more and more bonds, squeezing some of the water out of the protein network and making the egg white rubbery and increasing their digestion time.

 So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.

 If you want to save some money you can do this at home.It is possible to pasteurize eggs at home - and easily, too! Pasteurization is simply a process of heating a food to a specific temperature for a specific amount of time - designed to kill specific bacteria. It is known that salmonella bacteria are killed at temperatures of 140 degrees in about 3 1/2 minutes (or a higher temperature in less time). If a room temperature egg is held in a bowl of warm water - say, 142 degrees to be safe - for 3 1/2 minutes, the bacteria will be killed and the protein inhibitor neutralized. It takes 5 minutes for extra large or jumbo eggs.

 Place the room temperature eggs in a colander, and lower them into a pan or bowl of 142-degree water. Use an instant-read thermometer to be sure of the water temperature, and leave the thermometer in the water, to be sure that the temoerature is maintained. For medium or large eggs, leave them in the water for 3 1/2 minutes; for extra large or jumbo eggs, allow 5 minutes. Then remove the eggs, dry them, and refrigerate them, in a tightly-covered container.

 Eggs begin to cook at about 160 degrees, and will be "scrambled eggs" at 180 - but if the 142 degree temperature is maintained, the result is a safe egg that will act like a raw egg in recipes and will provide a fully usable protein source.

  

  

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 12:06:52 AM »
Cliff notes for CalvinH:

So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 12:09:53 AM »
The infallibility of our God of Hormones in regard to hormones has been well documented and beyond reproach. Just by smell, color and watching how the oil slides slowly down the vile he can determine the specific hormone and it's level of purity (the greenish tint and shoe smell of equipona is best left to the experts). Who the good cooks are. Who balonies you. And just by looking at someone he can tell what product or products that person is on and how much mgs or grams he is on with a degree of accuracy of 94.75% if going only by pictures. The accuracy rate rises to 97.09% if he views you in person. Coincidently, this corresponds exactly to the purity levels of Nordic's Blue Tops vs. his Red Tops.  


And his level of intelligence is extraordinary and therefore he can speak with authority on a variety of issues and topics: Americana whores, time travel, contemporary music and movies, sushi and pineapple juice spike with androlona, aliens, and the downfall of modern Western society as we know it and the rise and the inevitable world conquest by the Chinese empire. After all, our government doesn't just hand out Luna level security clearances to just anybody.
Ask George Bush Sr.

But, outside of hormones, he is not without flaws and transgressions. Who can forget his support of John Edwards? Or how he and Rick conspired to have Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate. So it was with good reason that I doubted his campaign promoting the drinking of raw egg whites. Studies were pretty conclusive and unanimous that raw egg whites are not digested properly. But a new twist recently entered this ongoing discussion. That was the effect of pasteurization. So it was back to do some more research. This is an article from someone who seems to have researched the subject thoroughly and seems to know what he's talking about. I highlighted the main point we are interested in. Suffice to say I bought six 32 oz cartons earlier today with 24 grams of protein for every 8 ounces. They were on sale here in Hawaii for $5.19 per carton. I imagine it's cheaper on the mainland. I also bought some Agave as a sweetener. Though I slightly deviated from the recipe it's still in full accord with the philosophy of Mary Poppins who use to say, "Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down."  

The Article:

I will try to be thorough, take notes if necessary so you may pass this info on to others young body builders, who will undoubtedly ask this question every week from now until the end of time. This is just a summary of about 10,000 egg articles I've read, and about the 30th time I've posted the info .

 Yes you can eat raw eggs/whites, but the whole eggs or carton eggs must be pasteurized (it will say so on the carton). Pasteurization is when they heat the egg/egg product enough to kill all the bacteria (including salmonella) and the protein digestion inhibitors (usually126-140 degrees). If you eat non-pasteurized eggs/egg products your body cannot utilize the protein in them due to the presence of a protein inhibitor. And while you may get salmonella from raw eggs/egg product the chances are 1 in 10,000 for regular eggs and 1 in 30,000 for free range eggs.

 Avidin is a glycoprotein, which is found in raw egg whites, and blocks the uptake of Vitamin B6 and Vitamin H (Biotin) causing a vitamin deficiency (it binds to Biotin and iron making them unavailable). You must cook/pasteurize the egg white to neutralize the Avidin and allow your body to safely digest the protein and utilize all its amino acids. Cooking egg whites at high temperatures denatures some of the amino acids which makes the proteins slightly less effective (slower digesting). A soft boiled or poached egg (at 70% albumin coagulation) is digested much easier as opposed to a fried or hard boiled egg. 2 soft boiled/poached eggs spend less than 2 hours in the stomach being digested, where 2 fried/hard boiled eggs spend over 3 hours in the stomach. Although fried/hard cooked eggs are digested just as completely as soft cooked eggs, it just takes longer for them to be completely digested and assimilated.

 An egg white is about 10% protein and 90% water. It’s the proteins that cause the egg white to solidify when you cook it. Egg white proteins are long chains of amino acids. In a raw egg, these proteins are curled and folded to form a compact ball. Weak bonds between amino acids hold the proteins in this shape—until you turn up the heat. When heated, the weak bonds break and the protein unfolds. Then its amino acids form weak bonds with the amino acids of other proteins, a process called coagulation. The resulting network of proteins captures water, making a soft, digestible gel.

 If you keep the heat turned up too high or too long when you cook an egg, the proteins in the egg white form more and more bonds, squeezing some of the water out of the protein network and making the egg white rubbery and increasing their digestion time.

 So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.

 If you want to save some money you can do this at home.It is possible to pasteurize eggs at home - and easily, too! Pasteurization is simply a process of heating a food to a specific temperature for a specific amount of time - designed to kill specific bacteria. It is known that salmonella bacteria are killed at temperatures of 140 degrees in about 3 1/2 minutes (or a higher temperature in less time). If a room temperature egg is held in a bowl of warm water - say, 142 degrees to be safe - for 3 1/2 minutes, the bacteria will be killed and the protein inhibitor neutralized. It takes 5 minutes for extra large or jumbo eggs.

 Place the room temperature eggs in a colander, and lower them into a pan or bowl of 142-degree water. Use an instant-read thermometer to be sure of the water temperature, and leave the thermometer in the water, to be sure that the temoerature is maintained. For medium or large eggs, leave them in the water for 3 1/2 minutes; for extra large or jumbo eggs, allow 5 minutes. Then remove the eggs, dry them, and refrigerate them, in a tightly-covered container.

 Eggs begin to cook at about 160 degrees, and will be "scrambled eggs" at 180 - but if the 142 degree temperature is maintained, the result is a safe egg that will act like a raw egg in recipes and will provide a fully usable protein source.

  

  

  You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 01:24:47 AM »
I would like to hear Bob Chickendildos opinion on this...

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 01:32:15 AM »

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 03:09:59 AM »
  You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Agreed.

Also I ditched egg whites completely, sodium is sky high on those damn things. I recently tried a bucket of Lana's and at 2cups twice a day I have never retained more water. It's like 400mgs Na a pop! Just from the egg whites I was getting 800mgs Na in addition to my normal daily routines.

I just picked up some pure isolate which I will be mixing with some quick oats instead. 2 scoops=54 grams of high bioavailable protein at only 100mgs Na per serving. 2 shakes a day yields 108 g protein and only 200mgs Na. MUCH better!!!

Wish they made low sodium egg whites but whatever. Nothing is perfect I guess.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 03:22:30 AM »
Agreed.

Also I ditched egg whites completely, sodium is sky high on those damn things. I recently tried a bucket of Lana's and at 2cups twice a day I have never retained more water. It's like 400mgs Na a pop! Just from the egg whites I was getting 800mgs Na in addition to my normal daily routines.

I just picked up some pure isolate which I will be mixing with some quick oats instead. 2 scoops=54 grams of high bioavailable protein at only 100mgs Na per serving. 2 shakes a day yields 108 g protein and only 200mgs Na. MUCH better!!!

Wish they made low sodium egg whites but whatever. Nothing is perfect I guess.
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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 03:25:57 AM »
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Are you saying "Methyltropin" is mixing up the sodium content of egg whites and his daily litre of Margeritas?

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 03:46:07 AM »
Nice article, but you said you wanted to be thorough.


Do you not remember what he said in the article of the guy who raped the baby?


I mean, since you are throwing it ALL out there, you may as well include his all encompassing abilities to have people whacked.


How about IP addy's? Remember what he said about those?


There is more, but I'll let you continue with your studies.


No shit though, you've about covered it.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 03:52:42 AM »
 Wait I just actually read some of what he wrote-"I will try to be thorough, take notes if necessary so you may pass this info on to others young body builders, who will undoubtedly ask this question every week from now until the end of time. This is just a summary of about 10,000 egg articles I've read, and about the 30th time I've posted the info ."

10k egg articles eh....

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 04:01:42 AM »
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He doesnt seem to have any problems with his bf's salty cum though.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 04:03:57 AM »
 You are a complete fucking moron. And I mean this honestly.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Honestly? So all the other times you called me a moron you weren't serious? Ah, Stupid, I knew deep down you care. But now you got me real mad.

I think this Suckymuscle is the biggest stupidiest bitch to ever post and needs to get KTFO immediately. I don't hit stupid people, but if I saw Stupid on the street and knew it was him, I would walk right up to him and deck him. I am not joking about this. I would actually hit him in on his jaw and break it and then I would stomp his face in when he hit the ground. I hate this bitch. Stupid c.u.n.t.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 05:53:37 AM »
Cliff notes for CalvinH:

So, basically the most bioavailable and readily assimilated egg proteins are either pasteurized raw eggs/egg products or soft cooked/poached eggs that have not reached 160 degrees at which point the proteins become coagulated/denatured and take longer to be completely digested and assimilated.


 ;D ;D Haha,fucker,just saw this post as I was about to start...

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 06:01:15 AM »
Am I the only one who liked his article...? Well done, it was a good and informative read!

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 06:04:18 AM »
Am I the only one who liked his article...? Well done, it was a good and informative read!

Yes.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2011, 06:20:56 AM »


I think this Suckymuscle is the biggest stupidiest bitch to ever post and needs to get KTFO immediately. I don't hit stupid people, but if I saw Stupid on the street and knew it was him, I would walk right up to him and deck him. I am not joking about this. I would actually hit him in on his jaw and break it and then I would stomp his face in when he hit the ground. I hate this bitch. Stupid c.u.n.t.

I wouldn't hit him, I would puncture his Carotid artery, as many times as I could before my arm began to tire.
There is not one of his posts that has not initiated a jaw breaking yawn in me!!

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2011, 08:08:50 AM »
GH15 SAYS TO GET 100% LIQUID EGG WHITES PASTEURIZED SO HOW WAS HE WRONG?

I SKIMMED IT SO IF IT WENT OVER MY HEAD JUST SAY SO.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2011, 08:28:53 AM »
Are you saying "Methyltropin" is mixing up the sodium content of egg whites and his daily litre of Margeritas?

I was thinking more along the lines of a cock-sucking analogy.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2011, 09:28:56 AM »
(...) Use an instant-read thermometer to be sure of the water temperature, and leave the thermometer in the water, to be sure that the temoerature is maintained. (...)
  

  

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2011, 09:33:29 AM »
http://www.amazing-glutathione.com/raw-eggs.html


Good job finding some random website that backs up your claim while others have pointed to numerous peer reviewed medical studies which point to the opposite being true- that without cooking the proteins are not effectively absorbed by the body.


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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2011, 11:52:58 AM »
The final word about eaw egg whites is that they are disgusting. They look like what comes out of your nose when you got a bad cold.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 12:20:25 PM »
The final word about eaw egg whites is that they are disgusting. They look like what comes out of your nose when you got a bad cold.

You can't see it if you drink straight from the carton.  If you sip it slow and try to taste it it tastes weird, but if you just chug it fast you don't really taste anything.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2011, 01:15:35 PM »
the only thing i do not like about drnkiing eggwhites is the gas.

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Re: Digestibility of raw egg whites. The final word.
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2011, 01:23:26 PM »
The final word is gh15, he does not fuck around, when he says raw egg whites are easier to digest than cooked egg whites I take him at his word, because I bleieve everything else he says about bodybuilding, why should he speak the truth regarding hormones but not food