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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2011, 03:01:17 PM »
Oh that's bullshit...  There is no obligation to follow your funding and on the issues I raised, gitmo, wars, torture following the constitution it really doesn't make a difference.  If you're really after understanding why a Ron Paul supporter would have picked Obama over McCain, there are clear reasons but you don't give a shit about any of that.  You just want to paint a picture that isn't real because you think in some way it's a good insult.  That's why you often end your posts by bringing it up.


And you believed Obama and his bullshit promises why?   

When lie after lie after lie he was exposed on telling you about his past and record - it didnt dawn on you that he might be lying about his police ideas and statements as well?  LMAO! 

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2011, 03:08:13 PM »

And you believed Obama and his bullshit promises why?   

When lie after lie after lie he was exposed on telling you about his past and record - it didnt dawn on you that he might be lying about his police ideas and statements as well?  LMAO! 
Because McCain WAS a promise of the SAME.  In case you didn't notice, there was only one real option if you didn't want SAME to win.  At least there was a shot with Obama,....  And he didn't have that much of a record as you all kept pointing out.  But again, you're not really in this for the truth of why, you're in this because you think it's a good insult even though it's not lol.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2011, 03:11:26 PM »
That's actually a pretty good ad for RP, IMO.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2011, 03:21:20 PM »
Because McCain WAS a promise of the SAME.  In case you didn't notice, there was only one real option if you didn't want SAME to win.  At least there was a shot with Obama,....  And he didn't have that much of a record as you all kept pointing out.  But again, you're not really in this for the truth of why, you're in this because you think it's a good insult even though it's not lol.

All i needed to know was Rev. Wright, Saul Alinsky, Ayeres, Khlasid Rashidi, Fr. Flegar, Klahlid Al Mansour, Bernadine Dohrn, his statements trashing the US Const. on more than one occasion, his promises to radically transform the nation, his promise to skyrocket energy prices, etc, to make me know what an absolute disaster and catastrophe he would be.

Too bad in America in 2008 - the AMWAY voters could not see the writing on the wall.       

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2011, 03:25:51 PM »
All i needed to know was Rev. Wright, Saul Alinsky, Ayeres, Khlasid Rashidi, Fr. Flegar, Klahlid Al Mansour, Bernadine Dohrn, his statements trashing the US Const. on more than one occasion, his promises to radically transform the nation, his promise to skyrocket energy prices, etc, to make me know what an absolute disaster and catastrophe he would be.

Too bad in America in 2008 - the AMWAY voters could not see the writing on the wall.       
lol, dude, all you needed to know was that he is black. :D

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2011, 03:27:45 PM »
That's actually a pretty good ad for RP, IMO.

Agree.  Good ad.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2011, 03:31:13 PM »
lol, dude, all you needed to know was that he is black. :D

His being half black is about the only thing that is good about him although that is a pile of shit too since he uses his bi-racial situation for political gain.  So you know what - I take it back - his being black is not even one of the good things about him. 

Funny too - had a guy like Cain, West, or Scott won the nomination - would blacks ever embrace them like they did Obama who is not even really black?  Probably not   

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2011, 03:44:49 PM »
His being half black is about the only thing that is good about him although that is a pile of shit too since he uses his bi-racial situation for political gain.  So you know what - I take it back - his being black is not even one of the good things about him. 

Funny too - had a guy like Cain, West, or Scott won the nomination - would blacks ever embrace them like they did Obama who is not even really black?  Probably not   
I was joking.

Another thing to consider.  People were really sick to death of the neoconservative agenda and how far they had taken the country in that direction.  A vote for McCain would have been for sure a vote in the same general direction.  Ron Paul is about as anti to neocon as you can get.  Obama in many ways looked to be a person who would not keep the country going down the neocon path.  Even if it appeared in areas that he would be leftist or whatever, that wasn't looked at as bad because the country had gone so far neoconservative any direction change off that path felt right.  It's not uncommon for the people to vote the opposite when that happens.  That's the way it goes and that's not always a bad thing.  It is a bad thing when all the politicians running are in general controlled by the same interests and end up doing the same shit under a different name.  Anyway, it's one more thing, why someone who likes Paul would end up voting Obama in 08.  It was a shot at changing a course vs. no shot at changing it. 

I know you want to simplify it but the dynamic of what happens and what people are thinking during an election is a lot more complex than just looking at who funds who.  If we could just look at funding support as an ultimate litmus test, it should would make elections easy.  That's not the reality of it.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2011, 03:47:19 PM »
wow, something about being a divorced dem makes for a great republican president... gotcha!

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2011, 05:12:47 PM »
That's actually a pretty good ad for RP, IMO.

More attack style than his usual, I guess that is good. :-\
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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2011, 06:01:25 PM »

 ???  ???  ???

Paultards LOVE to rewrite History or they are just so in love with Old Man Paul that they write a false history for him so they can fulfill a lust.



http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/06/ron-paul-claims-legacy-of-reagan-in-web-video-despite-past-rejection/

Ron Paul claims legacy of Reagan in Web video, despite past rejection
By Christopher Bedford- The Daily Caller Published: 5:12 PM 09/06/2011    | Updated: 5:18 PM 09/06/2011
  




In a video released Tuesday, Rep. Ron Paul takes aim at Republican presidential frontrunner — and fellow Texan — Gov. Rick Perry.

The clip, paid for by the Ron Paul Presidential Committee, seeks to hammer home the oft-noted point that Perry was a 1989 convert to the Republican Party, endorsing Sen. Al Gore’s unsuccessful campaign for the Democratic nomination the year before.

“After Reagan,” the video declares, “Sen. Al Gore ran for president… pushing his liberal values. And Al Gore found a cheerleader in Texas named Rick Perry.” The video contrasts this record with “a young Texan named Ron Paul [who] was one of only four congressman to endorse Ronald Reagan’s” 1976 primary challenge against Republican incumbent Gerald Ford. The congressman also endorsed Reagan in his successful run four years later.

“Now,” the narrator continues, “America must decide who to trust: Al Gore’s Texas cheerleader or the one who stood with Reagan?” (RELATED: Ron Paul calls Perry ‘Al Gore’s Texas cheerleader’ in latest video)

The script does not differ from the narrative of the Paul campaign, whose activists lay claim to the legacy of the American Founders and American conservatism.

In Internet posts and Ron Paul advertisements, a Ronald Reagan endorsement of Paul is frequently cited. However, the authenticity of the endorsement was questioned when Paul’s 1996 congressional campaign refused to share documentation with The New York Times and compounded by Reagan’s former attorney general, Edwin Meese II, who, the Times reports, “came [to Texas]…to insist that Mr. Reagan had offered no recent endorsements.”

Despite these doubts, the idea that Paul “is the one who stood with Reagan” is called into question most candidly by the congressman’s own words.

In 1987, the year leading up to the 1988 election, a story in the Dallas Morning News quotes Paul calling Reagan “a dramatic failure.”

But, Paul says, his disenchantment with the Ronald Reagan began well before 1987. In an interview that year with The Christian Science Monitor, he said, “It didn’t take more than a month after [Reagan's inauguration in] 1981, to realize there would be no changes.”

In a 1987 open letter authored by Paul and published in the Libertarian Party News, Paul reaffirmed that since 1981 he had “gradually and steadily grown weary” of Reagan and the Republican Party.




And in 1988, the same year Paul’s campaign accuses Perry of not standing by what it terms the Reagan Revolution, Paul told The Los Angeles Times, “The American people have never reached this point of disgust in politicians before. I want to totally disassociate myself from the Reagan administration.” This, Los Angeles Times reporter J. Michael Kennedy writes, is because Paul believed Reagan was “leading the country into debt and conflicts around the world” — an accusation the presidential hopeful and his supporters often levy against fellow Republican contenders today.

Paul’s opposition to what his current video calls “the Reagan Revolution” was so intense that in 1987 the former Reagan supporter joined Perry in the ranks of those current presidential candidates who did not spend 1988 as a Republican, resigning from the party and running unsuccessfully as the Libertarian Party candidate for president.

In his letter of resignation to Republican National Committee Chairman Frank Fahrenkopf, Paul wrote that because of Reagan, “big government has been legitimized in a way the Democrats never could have accomplished,” adding, “The chickens have yet to come home to roost, but they will, and America will suffer from Reaganomics.”

“The message of the Reagan years,” Paul concluded, is that “there is no credibility left for the Republican Party as a force to reduce the size of government.”

He did not run again as a Republican until 1996 — five years after Perry’s conversion — when he returned to the United States House of Representatives, embracing the legacy of Ronald Reagan.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/06/ron-paul-claims-legacy-of-reagan-in-web-video-despite-past-rejection/#ixzz1XDuRZvO5

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2011, 06:02:31 PM »
Agree.  Good ad.
It is if you are into rewriting history and believing lies.  See Above.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2011, 06:04:27 PM »
It is if you are into rewriting history and believing lies.  See Above.

If you actually pay attention it says he supported his message with emphasis on message.
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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2011, 06:06:29 PM »
If you actually pay attention it says he supported his message with emphasis on message.
Wriggling yourself into another Ron Paul pretzel will still not explain away the epic Bullshit lies of that ad.

Are you and the other really this far gone?  Its pathetic really.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2011, 06:08:15 PM »
If you actually pay attention it says he supported his message with emphasis on message.
How can he support something or someone that he was diametrically opposed to and rather vocal about during the 80s?

Fucking hell, how much History do you plan on re-writing or alternating in order to Sanctify Ron Poop? 

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2011, 06:09:27 PM »
How can he support something or someone that he was diametrically opposed to and rather vocal about during the 80s?

Fucking hell, how much History do you plan on re-writing or alternating in order to Sanctify Ron Poop? 

I am not rewriting anything. I am a bit shocked at this ad because Paul has said he was disappointed in him after he got into office at least.
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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2011, 06:12:04 PM »
LMFAO at TA.    dude jizzed his pants when Obama bought ocra and coco butter at the local store, completely betrayed every campaign promise, and he still plans on voting for him. 

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2011, 06:12:45 PM »
I am not rewriting anything. I am a bit shocked at this ad because Paul has said he was disappointed in him after he got into office at least.
Why did you choose to disseminate and propagate this ad?  What is the point of it?

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2011, 06:16:37 PM »
Jesus you're a dumb fucker TA...  Of fucking course Ron Paul opposed Reagan on stuff, that's no secret.  The issues mentioned in the video he stood with Reagan on and are the issues Rick Perry stood against!  In that repect the ad is spot on!  Ron Paul also stands with people like your hero Bernie Sanders on issues and several others on the left, but we also know he disagrees with them too.  It's not a secret that Ron Paul disagreed with Reagan on shit and it's even been talked about here.  And for fuck sake, you're pointing out his potition against Reagan from the year he was running for president against the VP of Reagan's admin.  FUCKING NO SHIT HE WOULD HIGHLIGHT WHERE HE THINKS REAGAN WAS WRONG IN THAT ELECTION.  duh...


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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2011, 06:16:44 PM »
Why did you choose to disseminate and propagate this ad?  What is the point of it?

Well, it was a new ad from RP, that's why. I have to admit it is confusing but there you have it.
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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2011, 06:17:56 PM »
Well, it was a new ad from RP, that's why. I have to admit it is confusing but there you have it.
I don't think it's confusing, read my post above.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2011, 06:19:24 PM »
Well, it was a new ad from RP, that's why. I have to admit it is confusing but there you have it.

n the core issues Ron Paul and Reagan thought exactly the same.   Go look at reagans old speeches during the 60's and 70's ,   He sounded exactly like Ron Paul. 

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2011, 06:19:39 PM »
Well, it was a new ad from RP, that's why. I have to admit it is confusing but there you have it.
He needs to stop hiring Paultards that are trying to rewrite an alternate History in his ads which are created for the sole hope of somehow linking Reagan to Paul as to fish away votes from Perry and gain more Conservative support.


The thing is, most Republicans are too dumb to realize any of this anyway and will believe anything no matter what they are told.

You and the others here should know better when you see garbage like that.

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2011, 06:22:27 PM »
n the core issues Ron Paul and Reagan thought exactly the same.   Go look at reagans old speeches during the 60's and 70's ,   He sounded exactly like Ron Paul. 
ROFLMAO, is that how you are going to try and Pretzel out of it?  The ad is dealing with Reagan in the 80s.

Furthermore that is a fallacy as well.  "Sounds like".  hahahhaha

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Re: Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2011, 06:26:40 PM »
There is only one good thing here: Ron Paul`s TRUE feeling about Ronald Reagan being a horrible leader that has "given us unprecedented deficits, massive monetary inflation, indiscriminate military spending, an irrational and unconstitutional foreign policy, zooming foreign aid, the exaltation of international banking, and the attack on our personal liberties and privacy.”

Paul even went so far as to call Reaganomics, “warmed-over Keynesianism.”

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