Ron Paul Ad Trust-NEW!

[The True Adonis]

 

Rep. Paul’s letter is a broadside attack on every element of President Reagan’s record and philosophy. Paul thought President Reagan was so bad, he left the GOP.

[Soul Crusher]

The ad is about 1980 no? 

[The True Adonis]

The ad is about 1980 no? 

Hopefully Perry will own Paul in the debate about this disaster of an ad.  It would be amusing to see.

[Deicide]

The ad is about 1980 no? 

Yes, it was about Reagan's first run.

[Skip8282]

I think we need another guideline.

If you know nobody will read your idiotic dribble, pathetically try using various fonts and colors

[The True Adonis]

I think we need another guideline.

If you know nobody will read your idiotic dribble, pathetically try using various fonts and colors

Truth hurts Skippy.

Tell me, have the Paultards zapped your brain as well?

[Hugo Chavez]

TA, do you think Paul's platform in 88 should have been: "Reagan was awesome, I have no complaints, elect his VP"

 

[Skip8282]

Truth hurts Skippy.

Tell me, have the Paultards zapped your brain as well?

Not a big RP fan myself.  I do like his stances on the economy, United Nations, NATO, transparency to The Fed.  Lot I don't like that I've mentioned before. 

[The True Adonis]

TA, do you think Paul's platform in 88 should have been: "Reagan was awesome, I have no complaints, elect his VP"

 

If he was in love with Reagan the way you are in Love with Ron Paul, then sure, why not.

So what did we learn?  We learned that Ronald Reagan can be directly blamed for Ron Paul`s disenchantment from the Republican Party (Paul`s own words and reasoning) and subsequent party switch.

This is coming from Ron Paul mind you.

[Hugo Chavez]

TA, the video states that Ron Paul supported Reagan for his belief in smaller government and lower taxes.  TA, is it true or false that Ron Paul supported Reagan on this KEY aspect of who Reagan was?  YES!!!!  The video states that Perry supported the opposite when he backed Gore, is that true?  YES!!!!!

What the fuck is your problem beyond the obvious of trying to spin the reality of what happened out of your hatred for Paul?

[Hugo Chavez]

So what did we learn?  

From you, not fucking much as usual...

[Hugo Chavez]

 Lot I don't like that I've mentioned before. 

mention them again please.

[Dos Equis]

     

Paultards LOVE to rewrite History or they are just so in love with Old Man Paul that they write a false history for him so they can fulfill a lust.



http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/06/ron-paul-claims-legacy-of-reagan-in-web-video-despite-past-rejection/

Ron Paul claims legacy of Reagan in Web video, despite past rejection
By Christopher Bedford- The Daily Caller Published: 5:12 PM 09/06/2011    | Updated: 5:18 PM 09/06/2011
  




In a video released Tuesday, Rep. Ron Paul takes aim at Republican presidential frontrunner — and fellow Texan — Gov. Rick Perry.

The clip, paid for by the Ron Paul Presidential Committee, seeks to hammer home the oft-noted point that Perry was a 1989 convert to the Republican Party, endorsing Sen. Al Gore’s unsuccessful campaign for the Democratic nomination the year before.

“After Reagan,” the video declares, “Sen. Al Gore ran for president… pushing his liberal values. And Al Gore found a cheerleader in Texas named Rick Perry.” The video contrasts this record with “a young Texan named Ron Paul [who] was one of only four congressman to endorse Ronald Reagan’s” 1976 primary challenge against Republican incumbent Gerald Ford. The congressman also endorsed Reagan in his successful run four years later.

“Now,” the narrator continues, “America must decide who to trust: Al Gore’s Texas cheerleader or the one who stood with Reagan?” (RELATED: Ron Paul calls Perry ‘Al Gore’s Texas cheerleader’ in latest video)

The script does not differ from the narrative of the Paul campaign, whose activists lay claim to the legacy of the American Founders and American conservatism.

In Internet posts and Ron Paul advertisements, a Ronald Reagan endorsement of Paul is frequently cited. However, the authenticity of the endorsement was questioned when Paul’s 1996 congressional campaign refused to share documentation with The New York Times and compounded by Reagan’s former attorney general, Edwin Meese II, who, the Times reports, “came [to Texas]…to insist that Mr. Reagan had offered no recent endorsements.”

Despite these doubts, the idea that Paul “is the one who stood with Reagan” is called into question most candidly by the congressman’s own words.

In 1987, the year leading up to the 1988 election, a story in the Dallas Morning News quotes Paul calling Reagan “a dramatic failure.”

But, Paul says, his disenchantment with the Ronald Reagan began well before 1987. In an interview that year with The Christian Science Monitor, he said, “It didn’t take more than a month after [Reagan's inauguration in] 1981, to realize there would be no changes.”

In a 1987 open letter authored by Paul and published in the Libertarian Party News, Paul reaffirmed that since 1981 he had “gradually and steadily grown weary” of Reagan and the Republican Party.



And in 1988, the same year Paul’s campaign accuses Perry of not standing by what it terms the Reagan Revolution, Paul told The Los Angeles Times, “The American people have never reached this point of disgust in politicians before. I want to totally disassociate myself from the Reagan administration.” This, Los Angeles Times reporter J. Michael Kennedy writes, is because Paul believed Reagan was “leading the country into debt and conflicts around the world” — an accusation the presidential hopeful and his supporters often levy against fellow Republican contenders today.

Paul’s opposition to what his current video calls “the Reagan Revolution” was so intense that in 1987 the former Reagan supporter joined Perry in the ranks of those current presidential candidates who did not spend 1988 as a Republican, resigning from the party and running unsuccessfully as the Libertarian Party candidate for president.

In his letter of resignation to Republican National Committee Chairman Frank Fahrenkopf, Paul wrote that because of Reagan, “big government has been legitimized in a way the Democrats never could have accomplished,” adding, “The chickens have yet to come home to roost, but they will, and America will suffer from Reaganomics.”

“The message of the Reagan years,” Paul concluded, is that “there is no credibility left for the Republican Party as a force to reduce the size of government.”

He did not run again as a Republican until 1996 — five years after Perry’s conversion — when he returned to the United States House of Representatives, embracing the legacy of Ronald Reagan.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/06/ron-paul-claims-legacy-of-reagan-in-web-video-despite-past-rejection/#ixzz1XDuRZvO5

Wellll I'd say he has some problems with that ad.  It's misleading to try and align himself with Reagan if he actually tried to distance himself from Reagan. 

And you don't make your point any better with the large font, color, etc.  Can't speak for anyone else, but it often has the opposite effect on me (more likely to ignore it). 

[Bindare_Dundat]

From you, not fucking much as usual...

lmao

[240 is Back]

dissing reagan in 87, when Bush was running things anyway...

vs. supporting reagan in 79... then as he made solid moves in the next 5 years...

Different times.  Does anyone here truly believe reagan was making the calls in late 1988?  LMAO

[Hugo Chavez]

Wellll I'd say he has some problems with that ad.  It's misleading to try and align himself with Reagan if he actually tried to distance himself from Reagan. 

And you don't make your point any better with the large font, color, etc.  Can't speak for anyone else, but it often has the opposite effect on me (more likely to ignore it). 

Question for you beach, did Ron Paul ever endorse Ronald Reagan?  Did Rick Perry ever endorse Ronald Reagan?  Did Ron Paul continue to support the issues he mentioned in the political ad that he was inspired by Reagan on?

What is the problem with that ad again?

[Dos Equis]

Question for you beach, did Ron Paul ever endorse Ronald Reagan?  Did Rick Perry ever endorse Ronald Reagan?  Did Ron Paul continue to support the issues he mentioned in the political ad that he was inspired by Reagan on?

What is the problem with that ad again?

The fact he portrayed himself as a Reagan disciple when he actually, apparently, distanced himself from Reagan.  It gives a false impression that he supported Reagan, when that was only partly true (assuming what TA posted is accurate).   

I actually thought it was a good ad, before reading what TA posted, and I never agree with anything TA posts (to the extent I read it). 

[Bindare_Dundat]

Wellll I'd say he has some problems with that ad.  It's misleading to try and align himself with Reagan if he actually tried to distance himself from Reagan.  

And you don't make your point any better with the large font, color, etc.  Can't speak for anyone else, but it often has the opposite effect on me (more likely to ignore it).  

 The ad says Ron supported Reagan at the beginning of his presidentail run because of some of the things Reagan advocated. That's what happened.

 Wheres the problem?
 

[Hugo Chavez]

The fact he portrayed himself as a Reagan disciple when he actually, apparently, distanced himself from Reagan.  It gives a false impression that he supported Reagan, when that was only partly true (assuming what TA posted is accurate).    

I actually thought it was a good ad, before reading what TA posted, and I never agree with anything TA posts (to the extent I read it).  

TA posted stuff from when Paul was running for office and every candidate had to make cases for what they felt was wrong over recent years.  And indeed there were things Paul felt went wrong under Reagan, but on the principle of what Reagan originally ran on Paul did support vocally back then.  It was those principles, smaller government, government is not here to help you, less taxes, all that kind of stuff that Paul did always stand with Reagan on.  It's these issues that were raised in the ad.  On that aspect the ad is spot on.

Ron Paul still today stands on stuff Reagan said.  And look, in some instances Reagan brought this on himself, look at his speaches, he was totally for non intervention but during his admin, he blized the shit out of south america in intervention.  There's all kinds of shit where Paul at the end of Reagan's time had to run against.  But he still supported the ideology of smaller government, the government gets in the way type of stuff.  Paul DID support Reagan on that and Reagan DID support Paul for these same ideals.  These are the things that at the time Rick Perry DID NOT SUPPORT.  In that aspect the ad is right.

[Dos Equis]

 The ad says Ron supported Reagan at the beginning of his presidentail run because of some of the things Reagan advocated. That's what happened.

 Wheres the problem?
 

The problem is what I just posted: 

It gives a false impression that he supported Reagan, when that was only partly true (assuming what TA posted is accurate).   

The message is Ron Paul was one of a handful of people who supported Reagan years ago and has remained consistent throughout his career.  He shouldn't have said that if he actually distanced himself from Reagan.  It's not a very complete picture. 

[240 is Back]

i thought reagan was pretty out of it toward the end of his presidency?

[Bindare_Dundat]

TA posted stuff from when Paul was running for office and every candidate had to make cases for what they felt was wrong over recent years.  And indeed there were things Paul felt went wrong under Reagan, but on the principle of what Reagan originally ran on Paul did support vocally back then during the 80's.  It was those principles, smaller government, government is not here to help you, less taxes, all that kind of stuff that Paul did always stand with Reagan on.  It's these issues that were raised in the ad.  On that aspect the ad is spot on.  Ron Paul still today stands on stuff Reagan said.  And look, in some instances Reagan brought this on himself, look at his speaches, he was totally for non intervention but during his admin, he blized the shit out of south america in intervention.  There's all kinds of shit where Paul at the end of Reagan's time had to run against.  But he still supported the ideology of smaller government, the government gets in the way type of stuff.  Paul DID support Reagan on that and Reagan DID support Paul for these same ideals.  These are the things that at the time Rick Perry DID NOT SUPPORT.  In that aspect the ad is right.

Perfect explaination.

[Dos Equis]

TA posted stuff from when Paul was running for office and every candidate had to make cases for what they felt was wrong over recent years.  And indeed there were things Paul felt went wrong under Reagan, but on the principle of what Reagan originally ran on Paul did support vocally back then.  It was those principles, smaller government, government is not here to help you, less taxes, all that kind of stuff that Paul did always stand with Reagan on.  It's these issues that were raised in the ad.  On that aspect the ad is spot on.

Ron Paul still today stands on stuff Reagan said.  And look, in some instances Reagan brought this on himself, look at his speaches, he was totally for non intervention but during his admin, he blized the shit out of south america in intervention.  There's all kinds of shit where Paul at the end of Reagan's time had to run against.  But he still supported the ideology of smaller government, the government gets in the way type of stuff.  Paul DID support Reagan on that and Reagan DID support Paul for these same ideals.  These are the things that at the time Rick Perry DID NOT SUPPORT.  In that aspect the ad is right.

That's not entirely what the ad conveys.  It tries to say he was supporter of Reagan the man, not just what Reagan stood for.  

And Ron Paul is supposed to be different, so the fact he did what other candidates did to get elected doesn't help his cause.  It actually supports my belief that, at the end of the day, he's just a politician.  Maybe more honest than most, but still a politician.  (See my earlier comments about asking for stimulus money and earmarks.)  

[Bindare_Dundat]

That's not entirely what the ad conveys.  It tries to say he was supporter of Reagan the man, not just what Reagan stood for.  

And Ron Paul is supposed to be different, so the fact he did what other candidates did to get elected doesn't help his cause.  It actually supports my belief that, at the end of the day, he's just a politician.  Maybe more honest than most, but still a politician.  (See my earlier comments about asking for stimulus money and earmarks.)  

You have one fucking thick skull man.

[Dos Equis]

So I watched it again.  America has to decide who to trust:  the Al Gore cheerleader, or "the one who stood with Reagan."  

I don't see how a reasonable person watching that clip would not conclude that Ron Paul was a Reagan supporter.  And not a supporter who later distanced himself from Reagan.