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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2011, 02:15:53 PM »
Congratulations, another 15 brainwashed Republicans landed on the same thread.

You have no idea how many people had to get their heads busted in to get unions in this country.

You'll piss it all away, just like your civil liberties, because you swallow everything you hear on hate radio.

You and Rush are the smart ones, everyone else is a dumbass commie right?

Bet you can't wait until tomorrow so right wing radio can tell you what to think after an entire two days off. Probably going through withdrawals already.

How about you go piss on the graves of the soldiers who have defended your freedom with their lives? Rush would probably appreciate that as well, since he has no clue how the military works.

Shut your pie hole you stupid jack ass. Unions have way to much power this day in age. Look how bad the teachers unions are. Unions are holding the economy back! Unions should be made illegal and if you want more in life you should learn to do something more valuable. TEaming up to threaten your employer is no different then one man robbing another at gunpoint. If you deserved the money the man would give it to you. If not then he wont. Unions are criminal organizations in this day and age. They existed for a purpose before labor laws enforced that employers have to pay for time that was worked. Now that we have laws teh unions serve no purpose other than promoting communists and making the average conseumer pay higher prices for products.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2011, 02:25:15 PM »
Shut your pie hole you stupid jack ass. Unions have way to much power this day in age. Look how bad the teachers unions are. Unions are holding the economy back! Unions should be made illegal and if you want more in life you should learn to do something more valuable. TEaming up to threaten your employer is no different then one man robbing another at gunpoint. If you deserved the money the man would give it to you. If not then he wont. Unions are criminal organizations in this day and age. They existed for a purpose before labor laws enforced that employers have to pay for time that was worked. Now that we have laws teh unions serve no purpose other than promoting communists and making the average conseumer pay higher prices for products.
You are incredibly gullible. I mean, it didn't even take them much effort.

Of course, this is probably due to a serious lack of education on your part.

You just don't know your history. EVERYBODY is accused of communism who doesn't support absolutism of the rich.

Do you have any idea of the redistribution of wealth that has taken place in this country over the last 30 years. The top 1 percent have as much wealth as the bottom 90. Anytime anybody fights for you (I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not in the top tier) you bark at them like a rabid dog. Enjoy your slave wages without healthcare. I have an education and can find work all over the world.

You're toast.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2011, 02:28:00 PM »
I have an education and can find work all over the world.

Get it at the school of hard cocks?
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2011, 02:28:24 PM »
And I know you'll probably call me a traitor again, so I'll pre-empt - I went to college on the GI Bill and served my country in Afghanistan.

I'm sure you have a lot of American flags on your truck, though.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2011, 02:28:44 PM »
You are incredibly gullible. I mean, it didn't even take them much effort.

Of course, this is probably due to a serious lack of education on your part.

You just don't know your history. EVERYBODY is accused of communism who doesn't support absolutism of the rich.

Do you have any idea of the redistribution of wealth that has taken place in this country over the last 30 years. The top 1 percent have as much wealth as the bottom 90. Anytime anybody fights for you (I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not in the top tier) you bark at them like a rabid dog. Enjoy your slave wages without healthcare. I have an education and can find work all over the world.

You're toast.

Did you just say redistribution of wealth! Are you fucking kidding me. You're a dumbfuck! Who is doing all the redistributing?

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2011, 02:28:48 PM »
The laziest, lowest common denominators in society, fear the abolishment of collective bargaining and affirmative action because they know they cannot survive and expect others to fend for them in an open job market.

The lazy and stupid that would be most affected by this social and economic Darwinism are the bulk of Obama's constituency.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2011, 02:29:44 PM »
Get it at the school of hard cocks?
State University.

I'll speak fluent Mandarin within a couple of years as well.

Most of you right wingers haven't mastered English yet. Probably never will.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2011, 02:30:03 PM »
The laziest, lowest common denominators in society, fear the abolishment of collective bargaining and affirmative action because they know they cannot survive and expect others to fend for them in an open job market.

The lazy and stupid that would be most affected by this social and economic Darwinism are the bulk of Obama's constituency.

You speak the truth.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2011, 02:31:54 PM »
The laziest, lowest common denominators in society, fear the abolishment of collective bargaining and affirmative action because they know they cannot survive and expect others to fend for them in an open job market.

The lazy and stupid that would be most affected by this social and economic Darwinism are the bulk of Obama's constituency.
Correct - those too lazy to get up and take care of themselves. These kind expect others to take care of them.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2011, 02:33:52 PM »
Did you just say redistribution of wealth! Are you fucking kidding me. You're a dumbfuck! Who is doing all the redistributing?
It's going from the middle class to the rich, you idiot. Do you really not know this?

No one is even going to debate about it. While you were so scared of communism the rich consolidated the wealth.

You are such a chump. This is not a secret. Been happening steadily since Reagan. What do you think happens when the rich get all the tax cuts? Have you not noticed the economic downturn?

You are not in the same demographic as right wing radio hosts. Are you that dense?
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2011, 02:35:47 PM »
Call me a communist all you want. This is not my problem. It's yours.

Talk about lowest common denominator or whatever other BS you've heard a million times. YOU are the one getting left behind.

You can't say you haven't been warned.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2011, 02:44:42 PM »

What I see coming from the commies is that they SAY we need the rich to pay "their fair share" , but what they really mean is they want to CONFISCATE the riches money until they only have what the liberals decide is the right amount

Here you go gaybear pay attention

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
 
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers", he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20". Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
 
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?"
 
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
 
And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!" "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
 
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
 
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
 
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

Professor of Economics, University of Georgia


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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2011, 02:52:07 PM »
Unions themselves are quickly becoming a thing of the past.  Membership continues to decline, as well as their influence.  GM, Ford, and Chrysler continue to build factories in Mexico and China to utilize the much cheaper labor.  Foreign manufacturers such as Toyota, Nissan, and BMW are building factories in places like Alabama, Tennessee, and Mississippi.....where taxes and cost of living are low, with great weather...............AN D...no unions to contend with.  This is why the northeast and rust belt areas continue to become the shitholes of the US.........high taxes, high unemployment, reduced populations, cities like Buffalo, Detroit, and Cleveland...no one wants to do business there.  Period.

Thank globalization.  Both parties have sold us out and we have little to no protectionist policies in place.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2011, 02:52:35 PM »
It's going from the middle class to the rich, you idiot. Do you really not know this?

No one is even going to debate about it. While you were so scared of communism the rich consolidated the wealth.

You are such a chump. This is not a secret. Been happening steadily since Reagan. What do you think happens when the rich get all the tax cuts? Have you not noticed the economic downturn?

You are not in the same demographic as right wing radio hosts. Are you that dense?
Absolutely! People like Coach and 3.14 are so blinded by ideology, they don't realize that the uber-rich, the 1% who control the 40% of the wealth, couldn't care less how they vote as long as they themselves continue to get richer. Coach would want to feel like he was a comrade-in-arms with people like the Koch Brothers, but they, in turn, wouldn't piss on on him if he was on fire. Sad.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2011, 02:59:13 PM »
Redistribution of wealth my ass....you have two main components to Obama's economic plan: (1) tax the rich because all the Liberal economic stimulus/policies have failed, so make a panicked money grab somewhere, (2) collapse the middle-class and make them dependent on the government, thereby increasing your voter base. 

It's time to see this Socialist and his thinly veiled socialist policies for what they really are.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2011, 03:02:24 PM »
Redistribution of wealth my ass....you have two main components to Obama's economic plan: (1) tax the rich because all the Liberal economic stimulus/policies have failed, so make a panicked money grab somewhere, (2) collapse the middle-class and make them dependent on the government, thereby increasing your voter base. 

It's time to see this Socialist and his thinly veiled socialist policies for what they really are.

Bike Nut you're very intelligent. You know what you're talking about.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2011, 03:04:33 PM »
Absolutely! People like Coach and 3.14 are so blinded by ideology, they don't realize that the uber-rich, the 1% who control the 40% of the wealth, couldn't care less how they vote as long as they themselves continue to get richer. Coach would want to feel like he was a comrade-in-arms with people like the Koch Brothers, but they, in turn, wouldn't piss on on him if he was on fire. Sad.

Why does the left always say the right are blinded by Ideology. Obama is the most Ideological President ever!! What country are you from Chimps.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2011, 03:12:34 PM »
Why does the left always say the right are blinded by Ideology. Obama is the most Ideological President ever!! What country are you from Chimps.
Oh, the Left can be just as blinded, too, but I used two noted examples from this board noted for their lack of comprehension and ideological bullying. I suppose bomz could be used as a lefty. He tries hard, but his ideas are all over the place.  And Obama is is not ideological. He can't be given the political and economic constraints he has. He's probably more correctly labeled a pragmatic moderate.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2011, 03:17:08 PM »


Obama wants Government to control and have their hand in everything.
Everything he does is expensive and he can't pay for any of it. Now he wants another 300 billion for what?
The first stimulus bill didn't do shit!

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2011, 03:22:59 PM »
Obama caved to the right on tax cuts for the rich.

You got your way and you're here crying about commie takeover.

Keep looking for that big conspiracy while you get fvcked.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2011, 04:21:56 PM »
Shut your pie hole you stupid jack ass. Unions have way to much power this day in age. Look how bad the teachers unions are. Unions are holding the economy back! Unions should be made illegal and if you want more in life you should learn to do something more valuable. TEaming up to threaten your employer is no different then one man robbing another at gunpoint. If you deserved the money the man would give it to you. If not then he wont. Unions are criminal organizations in this day and age. They existed for a purpose before labor laws enforced that employers have to pay for time that was worked. Now that we have laws teh unions serve no purpose other than promoting communists and making the average conseumer pay higher prices for products.
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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2011, 04:46:55 PM »
The total lack of commonsense with the left wing "progressives" is perplexing yet comical at the same time. lol

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2011, 04:52:43 PM »
why shouldnt the workers get paid well?  why should all of the profits go to the chairmen and ceo? they dont do the work that makes the money, the employees do

They don't.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2011, 04:54:03 PM »
do share holders particpate in the labor necessary to produce and make a profit?

They are the ones who buy the shares in the company, they invest in the company and they also may even by bonds issues by the company.

Shareholders take plenty of risk.

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Re: Time to put the UAW Union in their place
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2011, 04:56:16 PM »
Unions are criminal organizations in this day and age. They existed for a purpose before labor laws enforced that employers have to pay for time that was worked. Now that we have laws teh unions serve no purpose other than promoting communists and making the average consumer pay higher prices for products.

100% correct.