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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2011, 08:47:17 PM »

You are aware that the genes in your body right now are the same that are in any living organism.  You do know this right.  For instance, Men and Mice both have about 30,000 genes and only about 300 or so are unique to either organism. 

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2011, 08:48:51 PM »
You are aware that the genes in your body right now are the same that are in any living organism.  You do know this right.  For instance, Men and Mice both have about 30,000 genes and only about 300 or so are unique to either organism.  

I do know that the genes that make up your face and a baboons ass are 100% identical.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2011, 08:53:06 PM »
I know the cost of skyrocketing Insurance (I used to work for United HealthCare).  It will only continue as long as the Insurance companies are front and center.
Furthermore, Ron Poop does not want to remove the Insurance companies so there is no point in relaying the skyrocketing cost when it comes to Insurance companies.

Also, you are not factoring in technology and technological expenses and specialized care that we have now.  Do you know how much a Cancer Treatment would cost in 1960?  Oh yeah, zero dollars, because there wasn`t any treatment.  

Hugo, try again.
source for the chart is the US Department of Health and Human Services. I guess you asked and then deleted it...  Why do I have to try again?  You're the one failing all over the place.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2011, 08:54:36 PM »

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2011, 08:56:45 PM »
source for the chart is the US Department of Health and Human Services. I guess you asked and then deleted it...  Why do I have to try again?  You're the one failing all over the place.
???  The chart is correct and its directly as a result from the Health Insurance companies, including the giant one that I used to work for.  


How much did a Gamma Knife cost a Cancer patient in 1960?  ???

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2011, 08:57:54 PM »
???  The chart is correct and its directly as a result from the Health Insurance companies, including the giant one that I used to work for.  


How much did a Gamma Knife cost a Cancer patient in 1960?  ???

So how does obamacare deal w this again? 

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2011, 09:03:10 PM »
So how does obamacare deal w this again? 
Obamacare is horrible.  Its a Republican Plan and should be a Republican`s Wet Dream as it is a handout to Insurance Companies.  I have been saying this for years and tried to explain it to you back in 2009.

Its nothing new whatsoever.  The Insurance Companies have got us all by the balls and this is just a continuation.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2011, 09:06:25 PM »
Obamacare is horrible.  Its a Republican Plan and should be a Republican`s Wet Dream as it is a handout to Insurance Companies.  I have been saying this for years and tried to explain it to you back in 2009.

Its nothing new whatsoever.  The Insurance Companies have got us all by the balls and this is just a continuation.

y wet dream is christy canyon in her prime and Raquel welsh, but heck we all have different tastes.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2011, 09:07:37 PM »
y wet dream is christy canyon in her prime and Raquel welsh, but heck we all have different tastes.

Yup on both.

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Ron Paul Booed at Tea Party Debate.
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2011, 10:48:11 PM »



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Re: Ron Paul Booed at Tea Party Debate.
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2011, 11:20:15 PM »


Are you fucking serious TA?  You're going with Santorum's, "they hate us for our freedoms" bullshit....  This booing only goes to show the portion of neocons that are alive and well in the GOP along with the segment of the tea party that were taken over by neocons.

READ IT...


By Pat Buchanan

"We are at war. We are at war against al-Qaida, a far-reaching network of violence and hatred that attacked us on 9/11, that killed nearly 3,000 innocent people and that is plotting to strike us again."

Thus did Barack Obama clear the air as to whether we are at war, and with whom and why.

After his remarks, Helen Thomas during a White House briefing asked a follow-up question to which we almost never hear an answer:

Why is al-Qaida at war with us? What is its motivation?

It was Osama bin Laden himself, in his declaration of war in 1998, published in London, who gave al-Qaida's reasons for war:

First, the U.S. military presence on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia. Second, U.S. sanctions causing terrible suffering among the Iraqi people. Third, U.S. support for Israel's dispossession of the Palestinians.

To Osama, we started the war. Muslims, the ulema, must fight because America, with her "brutal crusade occupation of the (Arabian) Peninsula" and support for "the Jews' petty state" and "occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there," was waging war upon the Islamic world.

Terrorism is al-Qaida's unconventional tactic, but its war aims are quite conventional.

Al-Qaida is fighting a religious war against apostates and pagans in their midst. On Sept. 11, they were over here -- because we are over there.

Nothing justifies the massacre of Sept. 11. But these are the political goals behind the 9/11 attack, and this is why Islamists fare well in elections in the Middle East. Tens of millions of Muslims, who may despise terrorism, identify with the causes for which Osama declared war.

Consider. America lost 4,000 soldiers in six years in Iraq, with 30,000 wounded. Yet not one American of the 125,000 soldiers in Iraq was killed in December. Why not? Because we no longer conduct raids, patrol streets, kick down doors and pat down suspects. We have ended our combat operations, withdrawn to desert bases and seem anxious to go home. When we stopped fighting and killing them, they stopped fighting and killing us.

According to Gen. Barry McCaffrey, we must now prepare for 300 to 500 dead and wounded every month in Afghanistan by summer.

Why are the Taliban killing our soldiers? Because we threw them out of power, took over their country and imposed the Hamid Karzai regime. And our troops, some 100,000 by fall, are the force preventing them from recapturing their country. We will bleed in Afghanistan as long as we are in Afghanistan.

But if, as Obama said, "we are at war with al-Qaida," why are we fighting the Taliban when al-Qaida is in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and North Africa?

Hezbollah has used terrorism but not against us since the bombing of a Marine barracks a quarter-century ago. And our Marines were attacked in Lebanon because we were in Lebanon, intervening in their civil-sectarian war. Had the Marines not been sent into the midst of that war, they would not have been targeted.

When Ronald Reagan withdrew them, the attacks stopped.

As long as we take sides in Muslim wars, those we fight and kill over there will come to kill us over here. This is payback for our intervention. This is the price of empire. This is the cost of the long war.

Pat Buchanan is the author of "Churchill, Hitler and 'The Unnecessary War.'"




Read more: Why they are at war with us - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/s_661831.html#ixzz1XoKi4Dvt



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Re: Ron Paul Booed at Tea Party Debate.
« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2011, 12:51:12 AM »
Are you fucking serious TA?  You're going with Santorum's, "they hate us for our freedoms" bullshit....  This booing only goes to show the portion of neocons that are alive and well in the GOP along with the segment of the tea party that were taken over by neocons.

READ IT...


By Pat Buchanan

"We are at war. We are at war against al-Qaida, a far-reaching network of violence and hatred that attacked us on 9/11, that killed nearly 3,000 innocent people and that is plotting to strike us again."

Thus did Barack Obama clear the air as to whether we are at war, and with whom and why.

After his remarks, Helen Thomas during a White House briefing asked a follow-up question to which we almost never hear an answer:

Why is al-Qaida at war with us? What is its motivation?

It was Osama bin Laden himself, in his declaration of war in 1998, published in London, who gave al-Qaida's reasons for war:

First, the U.S. military presence on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia. Second, U.S. sanctions causing terrible suffering among the Iraqi people. Third, U.S. support for Israel's dispossession of the Palestinians.

To Osama, we started the war. Muslims, the ulema, must fight because America, with her "brutal crusade occupation of the (Arabian) Peninsula" and support for "the Jews' petty state" and "occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there," was waging war upon the Islamic world.

Terrorism is al-Qaida's unconventional tactic, but its war aims are quite conventional.

Al-Qaida is fighting a religious war against apostates and pagans in their midst. On Sept. 11, they were over here -- because we are over there.

Nothing justifies the massacre of Sept. 11. But these are the political goals behind the 9/11 attack, and this is why Islamists fare well in elections in the Middle East. Tens of millions of Muslims, who may despise terrorism, identify with the causes for which Osama declared war.

Consider. America lost 4,000 soldiers in six years in Iraq, with 30,000 wounded. Yet not one American of the 125,000 soldiers in Iraq was killed in December. Why not? Because we no longer conduct raids, patrol streets, kick down doors and pat down suspects. We have ended our combat operations, withdrawn to desert bases and seem anxious to go home. When we stopped fighting and killing them, they stopped fighting and killing us.

According to Gen. Barry McCaffrey, we must now prepare for 300 to 500 dead and wounded every month in Afghanistan by summer.

Why are the Taliban killing our soldiers? Because we threw them out of power, took over their country and imposed the Hamid Karzai regime. And our troops, some 100,000 by fall, are the force preventing them from recapturing their country. We will bleed in Afghanistan as long as we are in Afghanistan.

But if, as Obama said, "we are at war with al-Qaida," why are we fighting the Taliban when al-Qaida is in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and North Africa?

Hezbollah has used terrorism but not against us since the bombing of a Marine barracks a quarter-century ago. And our Marines were attacked in Lebanon because we were in Lebanon, intervening in their civil-sectarian war. Had the Marines not been sent into the midst of that war, they would not have been targeted.

When Ronald Reagan withdrew them, the attacks stopped.

As long as we take sides in Muslim wars, those we fight and kill over there will come to kill us over here. This is payback for our intervention. This is the price of empire. This is the cost of the long war.

Pat Buchanan is the author of "Churchill, Hitler and 'The Unnecessary War.'"




Read more: Why they are at war with us - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/s_661831.html#ixzz1XoKi4Dvt



You wasted your time posting all of that.  I have been on that page for years.
I`m not going with Santorum at all.  Poop is right, but as long as the Tea Party keeps hating him, he has zero chance.  We have a few Tea Partiers around this site so I wonder if they feel the same as the audience did when it came to this issue.

Furthermore, I knew it would melt you down without even me adding any commentary.   :D

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2011, 12:52:52 AM »
I also find it humorous that it was the Paultards who originally started this Tea Party nonsense and look what its become.  Paultards are so fucking weak, they handed the whole thing over to complete morons and never said a word about it.  The Tea Party hates Ron Poop, the very person who was responsible for its founding.  Oh the irony.

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Re: Ron Paul Booed at Tea Party Debate.
« Reply #89 on: September 13, 2011, 02:05:28 AM »
You wasted your time posting all of that.  I have been on that page for years.
I`m not going with Santorum at all.  Poop is right, but as long as the Tea Party keeps hating him, he has zero chance.  We have a few Tea Partiers around this site so I wonder if they feel the same as the audience did when it came to this issue.

Furthermore, I knew it would melt you down without even me adding any commentary.   :D
I didn't meltdown on that, I thought you were being an idiot, happy that he was being booed for that.  LOL at the fact you were probably bummed out they booed him on a point you agree with him.  You were probably like, oh fuck, eh, I'll post it anyway lol...

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Re: Ron Paul Booed at Tea Party Debate.
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2011, 02:30:55 AM »
I didn't meltdown on that, I thought you were being an idiot, happy that he was being booed for that.  LOL at the fact you were probably bummed out they booed him on a point you agree with him.  You were probably like, oh fuck, eh, I'll post it anyway lol...
Thats partly correct.   :)

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Re: Sick dumbfucks: Tea Party Crowd Cheers Letting Uninsured Die
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2011, 06:51:43 AM »
get a stall, senators craig

I was tapping my foot in that stall to the music on my IPOD.  ::)

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2011, 06:56:56 AM »
I was tapping my foot in that stall to the music on my IPOD.  ::)

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2011, 07:03:11 AM »
I just told you why... If you actually think Paul wants people to go to churches for actual healthcare, you're the dumbest person alive.

He did think that and he is the dumbest person alive.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2011, 07:24:44 AM »
I also find it humorous that it was the Paultards who originally started this Tea Party nonsense and look what its become.  Paultards are so fucking weak, they handed the whole thing over to complete morons and never said a word about it.  The Tea Party hates Ron Poop, the very person who was responsible for its founding.  Oh the irony.


Please shine some of your wisdom on us and explain how they were supposed to stop that from happening? Should they have waited outside the front doors with batons and asked people what they think of blowback, cause and effect, the military industrial complex? Should they have beaten the idiots in the crowd that booed? What should they have done TA? What would have stopped others from speaking their mind?  What should the liberty movement have done to stifle other peoples opinions?

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2011, 07:37:37 AM »
The idiots that booed Ron PAul on his comment need to read this report thats also states very clearly everything RP has been saying for years.

http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/ADA428770.pdf   Page 40.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2011, 11:40:01 AM »
Better start looking for a church in a good neighborhood.

I realize you're just doubling down on this to get HUGO riled up, but you really are pretty stupid if you thought Paul was suggesting people receive "treatment" at church.  Before the disaster that is the current health care/health insurance scenario, people without health care would look for financial help from charitable organizations, e.g., donations from the church & its members, fundraising by local businesses, donations from family and friends, etc.  

If someone chooses not to buy health insurance, then they should have to deal with the consequences if a time comes when they don't have enough money to pay for their health care.  

I don't know when total lack of individual responsibility took hold, but the prevailing view of "Poor me!  I didn't buy health insurance because I wanted to use the money for video games and a car payment I couldn't otherwise afford....but now I'm sick!  It's not fair!!  The people who aren't irresponsible fucking morons need to pay for my stupidity!!  It's the only fair thing to do..." that people have is really tiresome.  

If you don't buy health insurance AND don't start your own personal insurance savings...AND end up getting sick later on without the money to pay for treatment...you have no one to blame but yourself.  Why the fuck to people look at that scenario in any way other than "you made your bed, now lay in it?"

And the idea of people dying on the street is ridiculous too.  Walk any ER around the country without any health insurance at all and see if you don't receive care.... because it won't happen.  If you end up in the emergency room, you WILL get taken care of, no matter what your health coverage may or may not be.  


So the "woe is me" scenario isn't just a case of being unlucky.  
To end up "dying" without treatment means you have to make a multitude of conscious decisions where you PURPOSELY don't pay for health insurance, don't start a "savings" fund in place of the missing health insurance, aren't responsible enough with your earnings to have any kind of general "savings" or investments for your retirement/rainy day, AND allow a disease to develop without any kind of early detection that would allow you to opt in to that health insurance you refused...or buy some kind of high-risk insurance...despite the fact that you could walk into any ER across the country and receive care whether or not you have insurance.  

Are people really so pathetic that they need the collective assistance of the American taxpayer to keep them from dying?  I have a yard full of squirrels and various animals that can keep themselves alive....but I'm supposed to believe it is MY responsibility to keep someone else from dying AFTER they have made multiple decisions AGAINST being prepared to be kept alive?  

Look, I'm sorry you repeatedly chose "bling" over any form of preparing for the future whatsoever and don't think the "give care for everyone" policy of Emergency rooms around the country is enough free treatment....but I wasn't a moron and don't feel like making myself one by feeling sorry for the grave you dug yourself.
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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2011, 11:45:06 AM »
I realize you're just doubling down on this to get HUGO riled up, but you really are pretty stupid if you thought Paul was suggesting people receive "treatment" at church.  Before the disaster that is the current health care/health insurance scenario, people without health care would look for financial help from charitable organizations, e.g., donations from the church & its members, fundraising by local businesses, donations from family and friends, etc.  

If someone chooses not to buy health insurance, then they should have to deal with the consequences if a time comes when they don't have enough money to pay for their health care.  

I don't know when total lack of individual responsibility took hold, but the prevailing view of "Poor me!  I didn't buy health insurance because I wanted to use the money for video games and a car payment I couldn't otherwise afford....but now I'm sick!  It's not fair!!  The people who aren't irresponsible fucking morons need to pay for my stupidity!!  It's the only fair thing to do..." that people have is really tiresome.  

If you don't buy health insurance AND don't start your own personal insurance savings...AND end up getting sick later on without the money to pay for treatment...you have no one to blame but yourself.  Why the fuck to people look at that scenario in any way other than "you made your bed, now lay in it?"

And the idea of people dying on the street is ridiculous too.  Walk any ER around the country without any health insurance at all and see if you don't receive care.... because it won't happen.  If you end up in the emergency room, you WILL get taken care of, no matter what your health coverage may or may not be.  


So the "woe is me" scenario isn't just a case of being unlucky.  
To end up "dying" without treatment means you have to make a multitude of conscious decisions where you PURPOSELY don't pay for health insurance, don't start a "savings" fund in place of the missing health insurance, aren't responsible enough with your earnings to have any kind of general "savings" or investments for your retirement/rainy day, AND allow a disease to develop without any kind of early detection that would allow you to opt in to that health insurance you refused...or buy some kind of high-risk insurance...despite the fact that you could walk into any ER across the country and receive care whether or not you have insurance.  

Are people really so pathetic that they need the collective assistance of the American taxpayer to keep them from dying?  I have a yard full of squirrels and various animals that can keep themselves alive....but I'm supposed to believe it is MY responsibility to keep someone else from dying AFTER they have made multiple decisions AGAINST being prepared to be kept alive?  

Look, I'm sorry you repeatedly chose "bling" over any form of preparing for the future whatsoever and don't think the "give care for everyone" policy of Emergency rooms around the country is enough free treatment....but I wasn't a moron and don't feel like making myself one by feeling sorry for the grave you dug yourself.


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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2011, 03:54:27 PM »
Bachman seems to forget about States FORCING people to buy a private product, Auto Insurance.
At about 7:35


States have those rights, the federal government does not.

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Re: CNN Repub Debate is on
« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2011, 10:44:57 PM »
Romney was elected the next President of the United States last night. I will be supporting him for the nomination. Perry floundered.
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