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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2011, 07:27:04 AM »
Its almost mathmatically impossible in a three way race for any candidate to rack up the needed 270 EC votes needed to win. 

Than what?  We are going to possibly have a pres who can be potus by winning NY, CA, and IL?

GMAFB - that is a recipe for pure chaos.   

That's why I don't want a three-man race. Again, the Tea Party guys should run within the GOP primary. That's how they kicked liberal hind parts in 2010. More often than not, the RINO/moderate Republican runs 3rd party after losing the primary (i.e. Charlie Crist in Florida, after losing to Marco Rubio; granted, Rubio still clobbered both him and Kendrick Meek).

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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2011, 08:21:27 AM »
Let's review

New York Congressmen resigns in disgrace and the opposing party has an historic win in a special election

it must be a referendum on the party in the White House

right?




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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2011, 08:23:03 AM »
Let's review

New York Congressmen resigns in disgrace and the opposing party has an historic win in a special election

it must be a referendum on the party in the White House

right?







It was Straw - this district is 3 -1 Demo and Obama won by 15 points I believe. 


Ed Koch got involved and made this election solely about Obama and even Weprin said as much.   Wiener was barely mentioned in this race.   

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« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2011, 08:34:16 AM »


It was Straw - this district is 3 -1 Demo and Obama won by 15 points I believe. 


Ed Koch got involved and made this election solely about Obama and even Weprin said as much.   Wiener was barely mentioned in this race.   

I assume it must be the same for NY 26th Congressional District

that was only earlier this year so I'm sure you remember it

This dude resigns in disgrace and a Dem wins in a special election in Republican dominated district

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« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2011, 08:45:11 AM »
STRAW - READ THIS

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Twin defeats spark Democratic fears
By: Jonathan Martin and Ben Smith and Jake Sherman
September 14, 2011 04:57 AM EDT
 


HOWARD BEACH, N.Y.—The Democratic Party’s rare loss of a congressional seat in its urban heartland Tuesday, accompanied by a blowout defeat in a Nevada special election, marked the latest in a string of demoralizing setbacks that threatened to deepen the party’s crisis of confidence and raise concerns about President Barack Obama’s political fortunes.

In New York, Republican Bob Turner soundly defeated Democrat David Weprin in a House contest that — in the view of party leaders, at least — featured an anemic urban machine, distracted labor unions and disloyal voters. In Nevada, a consequential state for the president’s reelection strategy, Democrats suffered a runaway loss rooted in a weak showing in Reno’s Washoe County, a key bellwether.

Even before the polls closed, the recriminations — something short of panic, and considerably more than mere grumbling — had begun. On a high-level campaign conference call Tuesday afternoon, Democratic donors and strategists commiserated over their disappointment in Obama. A source on the call described the mood as “awful.”

“People feel betrayed, disappointed, furious, disgusted, hopeless,” said the source.


Less expansive but equally telling were the remarks of House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, who in a conversation with reporters Tuesday morning said bluntly that Obama would take some blame for the two special election losses.

“I think every election reflects on the person in charge, but do I think it is an overall statement on the president alone? No,” said Hoyer. “Do I think it will be interpreted as being a statement on Obama? That’s probably correct.”

A senior Hill Democratic aide was more direct in attempting to explain the New York loss: “The approval ratings for the guy at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue cratered.”

A Turner consultant, Steve Goldberg, validated that assessment: “It was all Obama — not even a thought of anything else.”

The president’s feisty new jobs plan has probably preempted open revolt in his party — though a Bloomberg poll released Wednesday morning found that 51 percent of Americans don’t believe it will help lower the unemployment rate. Senior party figures are on board with — or are at least resigned to — the White House’s leadership. And some Democratic insiders sought to put a better face on their diminished state — before adding that they wanted to see a tougher Obama.

“Let’s face it — it has been a tough summer for Democrats,” said Jack Quinn, a top lobbyist and former White House Counsel to President Clinton. “But I really do think that people are feeling better.”

Quinn said, however, that Obama must confront the GOP.

“They didn’t get the House and say, ‘We want half a loaf.’ They’ve said, ‘we want the whole g——— oven,’” he argued. “It’s time for the president to really draw some hard lines here.”

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), among the most senior House Democrats, sketched out those lines.


“The Republicans want us to repeal the 20th century, the New Deal, the Fair Deal, to turn us back to the robber barons running the country, and to eviscerate the environmental and other regulations to protect public health and safety,” said Waxman. “And to cut spending in ways that would be very harmful to people who rely on government.”

Others welcomed the notion of a new Obama — even if message doesn’t seem to have yet made its way north to New York or west to Nevada.

Rep. Eliot Engel, a New York Democrat who represents parts of the Bronx and suburban New York, said the “feisty Barack Obama, the one that we knew and loved and voted for in 2008, reappeared last week.”

“I think and I hope that that’s going to be the Obama were going to see from now to election time,” Engel said Tuesday, before dashing up to New York to help turn out Democratic voters for Weprin.

But the party’s structural weaknesses were on full display in the stunning New York defeat — the party’s first loss of a Brooklyn or Queens congressional seat in a generation. The Queens Democratic Party’s decision to nominate Weprin, an Orthodox Jewish member of the state Assembly who lives in another district, was driven by “the most blatant ethnic politics,” said Mitchell Moss, a professor of urban planning at New York University. It was an old-school play that failed: Turner fought hard for Jewish votes over the issues of Israel and same-sex marriage, and Orthodox leaders were well-represented at his victory party at an Italian restaurant in Howard Beach.

Much of New York’s still-powerful labor movement, meanwhile, sat the race out — distracted, demoralized, and with other fish to fry. The labor-backed Working Families Party, a juggernaut in other city races, chose to put its resources Tuesday into a bitter internecine battle with the Brooklyn Democratic organization — leaving Weprin to rely on the rusting party machine.

It was a nightmare scenario for Democrats that threatens to repeat itself on the national level, as major unions turn away from their traditional level of engagement. AFL-CIO leaders have talked about focusing their spending on state-level races. The giant SEIU has discussed replacing what had been an all-out campaign for Obama in 2008 with a campaign more focused on the issue of jobs.

And labor union leaders in Washington watched with frustration as a heavily Democratic, pro-union, blue-collar district slipped away.

“Obama needs to reconnect with labor, get in the trenches with us again,” said a veteran labor official. “There is, among my members, a sense of disconnect with him. He needs to signal to us that he is a labor champion, not just supported by labor.”

And so as they eye Obama’s reelection a year away, many Democratic leaders are taking an unexpectedly passive line. They’re pinning their hopes on the chance that the Republican Party nominates a figure who will, essentially, defeat him or herself.

Asked who he’d like to see the Republicans nominate, Montana Democratic Governor Brian Schweitzer suggested: “Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry — those would all be good ones to run against.”


Ben Smith reported from Howard Beach, N.Y. Jonathan Martin and Jake Sherman reported from Washington, D.C.
 
 
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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2011, 08:47:12 AM »
cool.. Repubs will get in and by 2013 everything will be awesome like when the last republican left it

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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #56 on: September 14, 2011, 09:01:36 AM »
cool.. Repubs will get in and by 2013 everything will be awesome like when the last republican left it

Red Herring.


People are sick of Obama's policies across the board.     

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« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2011, 09:18:56 AM »
Let's review

New York Congressmen resigns in disgrace and the opposing party has an historic win in a special election

it must be a referendum on the party in the White House

right?


Again, a three-man race in NY-26 with a Tea Party candidate taking 9% of the vote.

And the Dem won by 4 points, 47-43.

This was a two-man race and the GOP candidate won by 8.

So, the formula is simple. As long as you don't split the GOP vote, the GOP winner has a great shot to beat the Democrat.

Liberals are losing it, left and right, about this one. To try and brush this off, especially with NY-9 being of much greater importance to them than NY-26, is ridiculous.

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« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2011, 09:26:34 AM »
New York 9: Stunning Repudiation of Chuck Schumer
The Washington Examiner ^ | 09/14/11 | Michael Barone




This result is a rebuke to Barack Obama, but it is a rebuke as well—a stinging one, perhaps more stinging—to Senator Charles Schumer. He represented much of this district for 18 years and the now disgraced Anthony Weiner was his staffer and pretty obviously Schumer’s chosen successor as congressman when he ran successfully for the Senate in 1998. In addition, Schumer has made it his special project to win back white middle class voters in places like metro New York for the Democratic party. In January 2007, just in time for the new Democratic majority in Congress, he published a book, Positively American: Winning Back the Middle-Class Majority One Family at a Time. It is a thoughtful essay on how Democrats can win the votes of the kind of voter Schumer himself has won over in his career as a congressman and senator, with specific policy recommendations as well as public relations advice. As one of the three Democratic leaders of the Democratic majority in the Senate—and by common consent the one who outshines in intellect the other two put together—Schumer has played an important role in fashioning Democratic policies, including but not limited to the 2009 stimulus package and Obamacare.


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« Reply #59 on: September 14, 2011, 09:57:16 AM »
Obama's Israel policy seen as factor that cost him House seat
YNet News ^ | September 14, 2011 | Staff



Did President Obama's positions on Israel cost him a seat in the House? The Republicans have scored an upset victory in a House race that started as a contest to replace New York Rep. Anthony Weiner, who was forced to step down following a sex-texting scandal, but became a referendum on US President Barack Obama's policies.


Retired media executive and political novice Bob Turner defeated Democratic state Assemblyman David Weprin on Tuesday in the special election to fill the seat vacated by Weiner, a seven-term Democrat who resigned in June.

According to the New York Times, Turner took advantage of the discontent among the Jewish community with (Obama’s policy toward Israel) and his conduct pertaining to the Middle East peace process.


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« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2011, 10:14:55 AM »
Obama’s overall weekly job approval is at 41 percent, but it is concentrated heavily among African American adults. To put this in perspective, in Gallup’s October 1994 polling, President Clinton’s job approval was also at 41 percent. Yet his job approval was five points higher among whites (38 percent); his job approval among blacks had sunk to a still-healthy, but not otherworldly, 63 percent. You may say, “That’s only five points' difference,” but it’s a good bet that Weprin wishes Obama’s approval rating had been about five points higher in New York’s 9th district.

This is important because the African American vote is unevenly distributed in our country. Although blacks make up 13 percent of the population according to census figures, African American voters tend to be packed into a few districts. This “packing” has indeed increased the number of African Americans in Congress, but it has come at the expense of having more districts where African American voters have little influence -- about 90 percent of the districts in the nation have African American populations of less than 30 percent, a few points more than was the case in 1970 (despite a two-point increase in the African American share of the population).





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vince - this is what i was trying to explain to you a few weeks ago. 


Anyone who thinks that New York is going to go red in the election is a complete moron. A congressional election is not the same as a presidential election.  The seats will fall back to where they were next elections
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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2011, 10:17:12 AM »
Red Herring.


People are sick of Obama's policies across the board.     

Obamas republican ass policies...

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« Reply #62 on: September 14, 2011, 10:18:18 AM »

Anyone who thinks that New York is going to go red in the election is a complete moron. A congressional election is not the same as a presidential election.  The seats will fall back to where they were next elections

LMFAO - it doesnt have to go red for obama to get blown out. 

If Obama is forced to devote resources in previously safe places - he is done.   

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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #63 on: September 14, 2011, 10:34:11 AM »
Again, a three-man race in NY-26 with a Tea Party candidate taking 9% of the vote.

And the Dem won by 4 points, 47-43.

This was a two-man race and the GOP candidate won by 8.

So, the formula is simple. As long as you don't split the GOP vote, the GOP winner has a great shot to beat the Democrat.

Liberals are losing it, left and right, about this one. To try and brush this off, especially with NY-9 being of much greater importance to them than NY-26, is ridiculous.

so when a Dem wins in a Repub stronghold it's not significant but when the opposite happens it's a referendum

what I see are two special elections where the party of the disgraced former seat holder loses.

the saying "all politics is local" comes to mind

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« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2011, 10:55:56 AM »
so when a Dem wins in a Repub stronghold it's not significant but when the opposite happens it's a referendum

what I see are two special elections where the party of the disgraced former seat holder loses.

the saying "all politics is local" comes to mind

Hardly!! Turner ran his campaign, putting Obama's policies on blast. Welperin was hardly a factor.

Big Picture, Straw. The Dems are less than a year removed from one of the most savage beatings in history. Now they lose NY-9!!!

Losing a seat, that was once a lock, on top of the 2010 massacre, spells BIG TROUBLE for Obama.

The liberals hardly see this as a one-for-one thing. They'd give back NY-26 in a heartbeat to get NY-9 back.


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« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2011, 11:04:27 AM »
Hardly!! Turner ran his campaign, putting Obama's policies on blast. Welperin was hardly a factor.

Big Picture, Straw. The Dems are less than a year removed from one of the most savage beatings in history. Now they lose NY-9!!!

Losing a seat, that was once a lock, on top of the 2010 massacre, spells BIG TROUBLE for Obama.

The liberals hardly see this as a one-for-one thing. They'd give back NY-26 in a heartbeat to get NY-9 back.

Neither election changed the balance of power in Congress so I don't see what anyone on the right is crowing about or the left is crying about (and right wing blogs that tell us how people on the left are "feeling" are pretty much worthless to me)

we'll see what happens in 2012

I don't doubt that Obama will have problems but the election (as always) will come down to two choices and most people will cast a vote against someone rather than in favor of someone


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« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2011, 12:13:37 PM »
Neither election changed the balance of power in Congress so I don't see what anyone on the right is crowing about or the left is crying about (and right wing blogs that tell us how people on the left are "feeling" are pretty much worthless to me)

we'll see what happens in 2012

I don't doubt that Obama will have problems but the election (as always) will come down to two choices and most people will cast a vote against someone rather than in favor of someone



HP and DU ain't right-wing blogs.

If you get in any more denial, I'm going to think you're Egyptian.

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« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2011, 12:24:36 PM »
HP and DU ain't right-wing blogs.

If you get in any more denial, I'm going to think you're Egyptian.

I have never been to DU and rarely ever look at HP

Here's a news flash for you - just because someone writes their opinion on some topic doesn't mean you or I have to agree with it

I've already acknowledged (many times in fact) of my issues with Obama but that won't change the fact that when it comes time to vote next November it's hard to imagine any scenario where I vote for a Republican.   I think this will be the same for most people who voted for Obama in the past as well.  It won't be a vote for Obama as much as it will be a vote against a Republican.  Time will tell who is correct.



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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2011, 12:28:43 PM »
I assume it must be the same for NY 26th Congressional District

that was only earlier this year so I'm sure you remember it

This dude resigns in disgrace and a Dem wins in a special election in Republican dominated district

Nice try shitstain. He lost by 2 points or so because the "Tea Party" candidate was a democratic plant that siphoned away votes from the GOP candidate. If I'm not mistaken, the 2% or so margin that lost it for the GOP was the exact number of votes that the bogus "Tea Party" candidate received. The left can't win on the issues or win on the facts, so they have to cheat their way to victory.

 Being that I live in the 9th, I am in a position to know what this election was about. Weprin is a lifelong fixture in this district. His brother is in politics, his father was in politics (and has a street named after him a few miles from where I live) and he has represented the democrats in the legislature for decades. The Weprin family is extremely powerful in the local Democratic machine here. The fact that an unknown Republican could swoop into this district and win is astounding. It had nothing to do with Weprin and everything to do with Obama.


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« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2011, 12:49:47 PM »
Nice try shitstain. He lost by 2 points or so because the "Tea Party" candidate was a democratic plant that siphoned away votes from the GOP candidate. If I'm not mistaken, the 2% or so margin that lost it for the GOP was the exact number of votes that the bogus "Tea Party" candidate received. The left can't win on the issues or win on the facts, so they have to cheat their way to victory.

 Being that I live in the 9th, I am in a position to know what this election was about. Weprin is a lifelong fixture in this district. His brother is in politics, his father was in politics (and has a street named after him a few miles from where I live) and he has represented the democrats in the legislature for decades. The Weprin family is extremely powerful in the local Democratic machine here. The fact that an unknown Republican could swoop into this district and win is astounding. It had nothing to do with Weprin and everything to do with Obama.

shitstain ?

how creative

congrats on your glorious triumph






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Re: Schumer/Wieners' old seat goes to the repubs today. LMAO!!!
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2011, 06:30:45 PM »
Let's review

New York Congressmen resigns in disgrace and the opposing party has an historic win in a special election

it must be a referendum on the party in the White House

right?





You truly are one stupid fuck that lives in a carefully constructed far-leftist bubble.

Democrats outnumbered Republicans 3-1 in this district and had held the seat since 1927. A referendum on the party in the White House is exactly what this was.

Good job giving Blacken a run for his money for "Board's Dumbest". Comical.

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« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2011, 07:03:43 PM »
You truly are one stupid fuck that lives in a carefully constructed far-leftist bubble.

Democrats outnumbered Republicans 3-1 in this district and had held the seat since 1927. A referendum on the party in the White House is exactly what this was.

Good job giving Blacken a run for his money for "Board's Dumbest". Comical.

thanks kid,  but I couldn't give less of a shit about your opinion of me

I don't live in NYC and the only election that concerns me is the one next November and if the Repubs win they will probably lower my taxes (again) anyway

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« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2011, 07:06:07 PM »
thanks kid,  but I couldn't give less of a shit about your opinion of me

I don't live in NYC and the only election that concerns me is the one next November and if the Repubs win they will probably lower my taxes (again) anyway


Do you think I care about your view of my opinion towards you? Nope.

But I know you read my posts so let me repeat it: You are a moron living in a bubble.

If you have a problem with your low tax rate then feel free to cut a check to Uncle Sam anytime you feel like it. But we know hypocrites like you won't do that. Leading by example is not something far-lefties are fond of. ;)

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« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2011, 07:09:24 PM »
Do you think I care about your view of my opinion towards you? Nope.

But I know you read my posts so let me repeat it: You are a moron living in a bubble.

If you have a problem with your low tax rate then feel free to cut a check to Uncle Sam anytime you feel like it. But we know hypocrites like you won't do that. Leading by example is not something far-lefties are fond of. ;)

if you don't care then stop responding

I couldn't give a shit what some 25 year old dipshit thinks about me

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« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2011, 07:14:19 PM »
if you don't care then stop responding

I couldn't give a shit what some 25 year old dipshit thinks about me


You keep saying that yet you keep reading my posts.

Let me ask you again seeing as you're acting like the typical far-leftist and ignoring it: Why don't you write a check to Uncle Sam if you have a problem with your low tax rate? How does the tax rate that other Americans pay prevent you from paying what you think is fair for yourself? Lead by example, hypocrite.


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