Author Topic: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!  (Read 38367 times)

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2011, 04:13:00 PM »
no sorry i didn't know who ronnie was in 97

also i'm sure there were massive improvements  ::)













http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/219692-Phil-Heath-2011-vs-2010-Mr-Olympia

so he came in 10% drier and shot a little more oil in his arms... wow he's like a whole new bodybuilder  ::)

Yes, this makes huge difference on this level, especially if you're THIS close to your biggest and only opponent.

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2011, 04:17:40 PM »
improvements from the back are incredible for a competitor of that size

look at the 2 latspreds !

look at the thickness in the rear double bi !

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2011, 04:30:15 PM »
shot oil in his arms  ;D cephissus you have never injected yourself with anything, you have no clue what phil uses. while most people parrot gh15 and call hiom philsulin and assert he uses tons of seo... there has never once been any sign of it on his physique. round muscle bellies doesnt necessarily mean synthol. phil doesnt even train his arms that much anymore as he recognized they were overpowering the rest of his body and started focusing on leveling out his physique. i very much doubt he has injected anything into his arms for a long while, and even in the past i doubt he ever used anything but site injections with aas.

back on subject, ronnie made about the same improvements between 97 and 98 that phil did this year. a tad bit of size and better conditioning. that combination makes a big difference on a bodybuilder of that caliber.


find me 5 bodybuilders from any era who can compete with phil in ALL of the mandatories

i was just being insulting; you're absolutely right i have no idea what he uses, or anyone else for that matter (although one must wonder what advices he gets from jay  ;D)... again the point is that neither you nor anyone else was saying any of this shit even two weeks ago...

"i very much doubt he has injected anything into his arms for a long while"

was this statement even imaginable on getbig before phil won the o?

no one thought phil was even going to win this year, although that is a different subject.

if kai had won there would be threads left and right talking about his back thickness and unparalleled mass -- "did even ron coleman carry this much mass???????"

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2011, 04:32:46 PM »
Cephisus is right.  Looks pretty much the same both years.  I couldnt even tell you which one was this year and last year from those photos.  

Jay was off his game.  Phil took advantage of that.  

I personally dont like phil's physique.  His chest is very narrow.  Im not just talking about his shoulder width.  His actual pecs are very narrow and have a weird pointy look at the bottom to them.  Compared to someone like arnold, phil looks like he has breasts instead of pecs.  Besides the chest though, phil has a good back, decent legs, etc.  

look at the REAR pictures  ::)

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2011, 04:38:32 PM »
admittedly he did make improvements, but one thing to look out for is the 2010 photos are slightly smaller than the 2011 ones (ie the two sets are not to scale) as the original poster noted.

the point is that, in no way do his improvements warrant 30 fucking threads.  if kai had won there probably wouldn't be a single thread about phil posted since the olympia.

if gh15 has his sheep, so do the olympia judges.

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2011, 04:41:42 PM »
look at the REAR pictures  ::)

tbh check his hand position in the rear last spread and bdb, I think most of it is attributed to him learning to pose his back better.

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »
someone in that thread i linked posted better scaled ones:



just looks a bit drier to me.

different lighting as well, which makes it hard to tell.

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2011, 04:45:32 PM »
I havent examined the glutes very closely I'll admit.  Perhaps you can enlighten me as to the improvements he's made from rear to rear.

says the guy who spend his time taking picture of his half naked brother for getbig.com

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Re: lol @ the grand phil fanboy "sheep" inquisition of 2011
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2011, 04:47:34 PM »
His arms actually look better in the  #22 posing trunk number shot.

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2011, 06:35:49 PM »
How can ANYBODY think that this:


Is better than this freak of nature:


???

freak of pharmacy you mean?

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Re: Are you people for real?
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »


::)

Ronnie is so fucking awesome there fuck.....FUCK!
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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2011, 06:42:34 PM »

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2011, 06:43:33 PM »
Does anyone have the clip where DJ makes this Phil>Ronnie claim?

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2011, 06:46:54 PM »
Does anyone have the clip where DJ makes this Phil>Ronnie claim?

Flexonline.com, post prejudging interview.
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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2011, 06:50:37 PM »
Ok somebody should make another thread on the topic

how bout, Phil vs Oleg Zhur

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Re: Are you people for real?
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2011, 06:51:56 PM »
They always get a lot of it wrong. Funnily, the same thing used to happen when ESPN was broadcasting the Mr Olympia, AC and other comps - they'd get everything right except for the weights.
Like Flex consistently being listed 235 from his USA win to the 96 AC...his weight never changed, but his physique did...

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Re: Are you people for real?
« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2011, 06:52:49 PM »
coleman has a horrible ab structure and looks like shit with his too big quads. 96-97 he was good, although even then his ab structure wasn't the best but it got worse as he increased the dosages.

ab structures are Genetics. you can't change that. phil's abs looks like he only got 4 packs. some people look like they got 8 packs.  

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Re: Are you people for real?
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2011, 06:56:19 PM »
coleman has a horrible ab structure and looks like shit with his too big quads. 96-97 he was good, although even then his ab structure wasn't the best but it got worse as he increased the dosages.
and phil has horrible clavicle structure and looks like shit with too big arms.

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2011, 07:26:50 PM »
It's not fair comparing anyone to Ronnie. Ronnie in 2003 was not human, it's been proven.  ;D

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2011, 07:27:27 PM »
Ronnie is unmatched

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Re: Are you people for real?
« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2011, 08:50:59 PM »
Ronnie is so fucking awesome there fuck.....FUCK!

the clips tell it all

ronnie in 98/99 was untouchable by anyone.

including dorian, sergio, you name it. no one equalled that.
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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2011, 10:13:09 PM »
Ok somebody should make another thread on the topic

how bout, Phil vs Oleg Zhur

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2011, 11:48:20 PM »
I only wish phil could've gone against a prime time ronnie. Ronnie would've made phil look small and soft.  Ronnie was beyond ridiculous.  Just look at the difference in arm conditioning, and Ronnie's arms look bigger (and better) than phil's.  Phil would;ve been destroyed.

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2011, 11:55:34 PM »



^^ foundation

after looking at his video...you can start understanding why and how much regressssion bodybuild has taken since 2005...since 2000 to be honest,, but since 2005 in particular,,

to compare philsulina to ron colman or even to frank zane ..is an insult

ron colman is not comparable to anyone ,, and if you compare him to someone atleast compare him to dorian yates at his absolit ABSOLIT best showings

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Re: Are you people for real? Ronnie Coleman vs. Phil Heath!
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2011, 12:08:38 AM »
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