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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #100 on: September 22, 2011, 04:13:18 PM »
Money made in the fitness industry comes from good trainers. Really knowledgeable, walking encyclopedias of information ranging anywhere from nutrition to psychology who are willing to be paid peanuts for all of their mandatory certifications, CEU's, liability insurance and empirical data.

"Member Retention" these days only comes from an EFT contract. You get the *potential* member in the door, get him/her/them to sign on the dotted line and commit to two years minimum on an EFT. The new member cannot contact the corporate offices except through correspondence. Unless they change their bank account, they are stuck.

You get 6000 *active* members (as in bank accounts being withdrawn from every month) ~

Max Capacity of the gym will never be near the amount of members that you have on EFT. In other words: If everyone were to show up at the same time, the gym would have a problem.

The overhead at a gym ranging from equipment repairs, facility repairs, heating and cooling, liability insurance, property, mortage/lease/rent, PT's and employee payroll far surpasses what the gym brings in.

You have manipulative car-salesmen selling insane training packages to this brand new and gullible member. They sign on the dotted line once again. The salesman shoots for the highest amount of PT sessions. This way, the new member may have to come up with nearly $1000. The new member is told that the more sessions they purchase, the less money each session becomes.


If that new member defaults (by oh SO MANY means) they have to start all over again, but they still have not made their second payment on the PT sessions and they are still reeling from the *initiation* fees that were NOT "waived" after all.


If the more sessions they purchase truly is less $$$$ ~ then the logical reality should also be that the sessions themselves become worthless. This is why the big chains like to use "in house certs" and minimum wage trainers. These are the very anuses that take a first timer, let's say a big fat woman, humiliate her on a P.O.S Bosu ball by making her try to jump up and down on it on one leg in front of every member in the gym.

Funny thing about new members (especially women) ~ they actually think they should be in shape BEFORE they go to the gym, this way they feel they won't stand out as such a spectacle as their ass cheeks hang over each side of a useless, torn up machine seat.


The gym business should be more like a Dorian Yates type of dungeon. Make everyone welcome. Make sure everyone knows that you are not providing them towels and water or a massage after the session. Teach them how to work out so that they can work out ANYWHERE. This way, they will WANT to stay because you have been honest with them. It's almost a "reverse" type of psychology by saying "we really don't have the capacity to get you in shape at this time, but we will get you educated and on your own ASAP.


It works every time. This is what causes "member retention" ~ which ironically is NOT what the gym wants. Yes, they want your money (EFT) {and usually NO OTHER OPTION OF PAYMENT}


BUT! They don't want you there at the facility wearing the equipment out, running up the overhead and making the gym look too full for an appropriate workout (to the other new and gullible *potential members*)


The whole industry is a joke. People should seek out trainers that have developed a name in the industry and possibly own their own small businesses. They should shoot for the goal of learning how to exercise AT HOME or anywhere else but the gym, unless they are into the whole "non-alcoholic happy hour" for socializing and finding a fuck buddy.

Honest and visible results = gym member retention.

Corporate does not want it's members, just their money... for as long as contractually possible.

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #101 on: September 22, 2011, 04:22:31 PM »
Yeah, service in gyms sucks for sure

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #102 on: September 22, 2011, 04:24:29 PM »
i cant get the images off the website but if you wanna see my gym theres 12 pictures of it


http://www.24hourfitness.com/FindClubDetail.do?clubid=535

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2011, 05:33:41 PM »

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2011, 07:04:49 PM »
mine

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2011, 08:05:30 PM »
It was good meeting you, big man.

Victor great meeting you today bro!  I'm sure I'll be seeing you in there more often, and I still stand by the fact that you're the biggest guy in our gym!


Two getbiggers in one gym, what could possibly go wrong  ;D

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2011, 08:27:27 PM »

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« Reply #107 on: September 22, 2011, 09:20:06 PM »
If you look at the layout of these commercial gyms they don't really cater to the person who sincerely wants to get in shape, lose weight, etc. They cater mostly (or at least it looks like) to the bodybuilding crowd. Not so much the competitive bodybuilder but rather the person who wants to get bigger, "toned",etc. I"ve always said I could get better results from a client who trains in my garage than someone who trains out of a 50,000-100,000sqft facility. Why? Because there are smaller gyms popping up (1500-6000sqft) that actually have knowledgable trainers and have the equipment to get these people into shape. Trust me when i say more and more people are NOT for example warming up on a treadmill or bike or ellipicle, same with "cardio". Soon these types of machines (and most machines) will be obsolete. Why would someone go out and pay $10k for a treadmill when I can spend $150 on a 50ft rope 2" in grip. I can burn more calories, strengthen my grip and shoulders at the same time. Same with med balls, kettle bells, TRX, tires, plyo boxes, etc, etc, etc!

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #108 on: September 22, 2011, 09:30:27 PM »
If you look at the layout of these commercial gyms they don't really cater to the person who sincerely wants to get in shape, lose weight, etc. They cater mostly (or at least it looks like) to the bodybuilding crowd. Not so much the competitive bodybuilder but rather the person who wants to get bigger, "toned",etc. I"ve always said I could get better results from a client who trains in my garage than someone who trains out of a 50,000-100,000sqft facility. Why? Because there are smaller gyms popping up (1500-6000sqft) that actually have knowledgable trainers and have the equipment to get these people into shape. Trust me when i say more and more people are NOT for example warming up on a treadmill or bike or ellipicle, same with "cardio". Soon these types of machines (and most machines) will be obsolete. Why would someone go out and pay $10k for a treadmill when I can spend $150 on a 50ft rope 2" in grip. I can burn more calories, strengthen my grip and shoulders at the same time. Same with med balls, kettle bells, TRX, tires, plyo boxes, etc, etc, etc!


Amen to that. I've said the same many times, and.. have had my clients ask if we could "just get out of the gym?"


I have enough of my own equipment and plates for iron work (if I want it) ~ but there are "many ways to skin a cat"


Glitz and Glam don't cut it for me. Sweat, sacrifice and hard work... works every time. Doesn't matter where you are. Look at prison cells if you don't believe it. These guys may be ignorant criminals, but they are very resourceful when it comes to gaining muscle without a dumbell or barbell in sight.

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2011, 09:30:59 PM »
Money made in the fitness industry comes from good trainers. Really knowledgeable, walking encyclopedias of information ranging anywhere from nutrition to psychology who are willing to be paid peanuts for all of their mandatory certifications, CEU's, liability insurance and empirical data.

"Member Retention" these days only comes from an EFT contract. You get the *potential* member in the door, get him/her/them to sign on the dotted line and commit to two years minimum on an EFT. The new member cannot contact the corporate offices except through correspondence. Unless they change their bank account, they are stuck.

You get 6000 *active* members (as in bank accounts being withdrawn from every month) ~

Max Capacity of the gym will never be near the amount of members that you have on EFT. In other words: If everyone were to show up at the same time, the gym would have a problem.

The overhead at a gym ranging from equipment repairs, facility repairs, heating and cooling, liability insurance, property, mortage/lease/rent, PT's and employee payroll far surpasses what the gym brings in.

You have manipulative car-salesmen selling insane training packages to this brand new and gullible member. They sign on the dotted line once again. The salesman shoots for the highest amount of PT sessions. This way, the new member may have to come up with nearly $1000. The new member is told that the more sessions they purchase, the less money each session becomes.


If that new member defaults (by oh SO MANY means) they have to start all over again, but they still have not made their second payment on the PT sessions and they are still reeling from the *initiation* fees that were NOT "waived" after all.


If the more sessions they purchase truly is less $$$$ ~ then the logical reality should also be that the sessions themselves become worthless. This is why the big chains like to use "in house certs" and minimum wage trainers. These are the very anuses that take a first timer, let's say a big fat woman, humiliate her on a P.O.S Bosu ball by making her try to jump up and down on it on one leg in front of every member in the gym.

Funny thing about new members (especially women) ~ they actually think they should be in shape BEFORE they go to the gym, this way they feel they won't stand out as such a spectacle as their ass cheeks hang over each side of a useless, torn up machine seat.


The gym business should be more like a Dorian Yates type of dungeon. Make everyone welcome. Make sure everyone knows that you are not providing them towels and water or a massage after the session. Teach them how to work out so that they can work out ANYWHERE. This way, they will WANT to stay because you have been honest with them. It's almost a "reverse" type of psychology by saying "we really don't have the capacity to get you in shape at this time, but we will get you educated and on your own ASAP.


It works every time. This is what causes "member retention" ~ which ironically is NOT what the gym wants. Yes, they want your money (EFT) {and usually NO OTHER OPTION OF PAYMENT}


BUT! They don't want you there at the facility wearing the equipment out, running up the overhead and making the gym look too full for an appropriate workout (to the other new and gullible *potential members*)


The whole industry is a joke. People should seek out trainers that have developed a name in the industry and possibly own their own small businesses. They should shoot for the goal of learning how to exercise AT HOME or anywhere else but the gym, unless they are into the whole "non-alcoholic happy hour" for socializing and finding a fuck buddy.

Honest and visible results = gym member retention.

Corporate does not want it's members, just their money... for as long as contractually possible.

Looks like someone KNOWS this mess called the "HEALTH CLUB BUSINESS"  I've seen and been a part of most of what was said in your post accept when I FIRST STARTED I FUCKING CARED. I LEFT BEACUSE OF THE REALITIES OF YOUR POST.

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #110 on: September 22, 2011, 09:31:00 PM »

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« Reply #111 on: September 22, 2011, 09:36:42 PM »
Google "Results Fitness" in Santa Clarita, ca. I know Alwyn and Rachel and been to this gym, it's the most profitable gym per sq ft in country. I'm going out there on Tuesday to visit a coach at College of the Canyons (Coach Dos Remidios).

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #112 on: September 22, 2011, 09:40:43 PM »
Looks like someone KNOWS this mess called the "HEALTH CLUB BUSINESS"  I've seen and been a part of most of what was said in your post accept when I FIRST STARTED I FUCKING CARED. I LEFT BEACUSE OF THE REALITIES OF YOUR POST.


I left also...


and then went back and used what I had learned from the mistakes. I still *care* ~ sometimes it is my downfall, but other times the success stories make it all worth while.

I'm sure a lot of the "older" trainers (besides me) laugh when we see the capitalization and sensationalism of "The biggest loser" ~ I mean, seriously, isn't this exactly what we've been doing all along? We watch our clients (maybe 1 in 20) make the commitment and then we stand by them regardless. After a while you can tell just by the first few words out of a potential client's mouth whether or not they are going to make any significant changes.

We just don't have the money or the T.V. reality shows and all the glamour. Don't get me wrong, a strong clientele in a good small gym can be extremely lucrative, especially once you've developed a rep for getting people in shape... and *caring*

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2011, 09:42:19 PM »
I wont post pics of "my" gym...people are gonna track me down if I do, so...  :D ::)

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #114 on: September 22, 2011, 10:18:59 PM »
I wont post pics of "my" gym...people are gonna track me down if I do, so...  :D ::)

u think they will come after you in france  ;D

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #115 on: September 22, 2011, 10:39:02 PM »
u think they will come after you in france  ;D
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #116 on: September 22, 2011, 10:42:34 PM »
How do you know Coach Dos?

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #117 on: September 22, 2011, 10:48:34 PM »
How do you know Coach Dos?

My friend played football for him couple years ago. Learned alot he said
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« Reply #118 on: September 22, 2011, 10:52:15 PM »
I've known Coach for about two years, he is VERY knowledgable, NSCA coach of the year and a best selling author. I try to meet with him a 4-5 times a year and spend the day on campus. Want to be the best you learn from the best.

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« Reply #119 on: September 22, 2011, 11:15:39 PM »
I've known Coach for about two years, he is VERY knowledgable, NSCA coach of the year and a best selling author. I try to meet with him a 4-5 times a year and spend the day on campus. Want to be the best you learn from the best.

 I was around 16 years old at the time and my buddy was 18 and we were training together... I saw him turn into a freak athlete right before my eyes while he was being trained by Doz. 18 years old, 260 pound tongan kid strong athletic.. and  could flat out fly. Never made it big though, at least not yet. If he would of stayed with Coach I think he could of been a true freak.

 All bs aside on here I think that's awesome you have that kind of pride with what you do though, really awesome... it's a shame watching these coaches taking highly skilled athletes with a fuckload of potential and giving them baby programs you could get off bodybuilding.com. And really fucked up   thing is they can get away with it, due to  all  of the amazing young talent that comes out of the San Fernando valley. Just a huge diservice in my opinion when these kids put their trust and future into these guy's hands.
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« Reply #120 on: September 23, 2011, 01:49:16 AM »
u think they will come after you in france  ;D

Maybe that weird Khofo fella

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2011, 02:45:32 AM »
A bit overkill from 30+ years of building a home gym.
I even see my 125 lb. Jubinville dumbbells made it into the thread earlier by another GetBigger.
Maybe got the pic from Vintage Barbell site or Iron History..

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #122 on: September 23, 2011, 02:49:32 AM »
A bit overkill from 30+ years of building a home gym.
I even see my 125 lb. Jubinville dumbbells made it into the thread earlier by another GetBigger.
Maybe got the pic from Vintage Barbell site or Iron History..

That's your home gym? That's nice. Damn nice.

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #123 on: September 23, 2011, 04:32:05 AM »
Two getbiggers in one gym, what could possibly go wrong  ;D

LMAO!

Who knew.  ;D

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Re: Post pics of your gym
« Reply #124 on: September 23, 2011, 07:34:20 AM »
This is a gym a built in Australia when I moved to the country  from the suburbs last year, didnt like the town so recently sold it and moved back to the suburbs.
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