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Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« on: September 28, 2011, 07:38:23 AM »
N.J. Gov. Chris Christie can't douse buzz over possible presidential bid
Michael Finnegan | McClatchy-Tribune News Service

September 28, 2011 06:31:14 AM

LOS ANGELES — With speculation swirling anew about whether he intends to join the field of Republican presidential candidates, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie referred a crowd in California on Tuesday to a string of his previous comments on the matter, strung together in a Web video.

The video, on the Politico website, represented his "answers back to back to back together on the question of running for the presidency," he told hundreds of Republicans gathered at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley - several of whom asked him to run.

Among the responses on the video: "I'm 100 percent certain I'm not going to run," "I don't want to run" and "I don't feel ready in my heart to be president."

Despite the demurrals, the latest surge of Christie-mania - particularly among some party donors anxious for new options - has only raised Christie's national profile and enhanced his draw on the campaign money circuit. He's scooping up checks for the New Jersey Republican Party this week at events in Beverly Hills, Santa Ana, Silicon Valley, Missouri and Louisiana.


So it came as little surprise that Christie added another dash of fuel to the talk by taking a shot at Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a leading Republican contender for president.

Responding to a question from the audience, Christie said he opposed laws that allow the children of illegal immigrants to pay lower in-state tuition at public colleges. Perry, who has taken heat from rivals for approving such a law in Texas, has said critics of the policy have no heart.

"From my perspective, that is not a heartless position," Christie said. "That is a common-sense position."

In a half-hour speech paying tribute to Reagan, Christie also took swipes at President Barack Obama, saying the Democratic incumbent was trying to "divide our nation to achieve re-election."

"This is not a leadership style," Christie said, referring to the president's proposal to raise taxes on high-income earners. "This is a re-election strategy - telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others ... insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American dream."

"That may turn out to be a good re-election strategy, Mr. President, but it is a demoralizing message for America," Christie said. The crowd burst into applause.

While saying Obama lacked "the courage to lead," Christie was more mild in his implied criticism of fellow Republicans who control the House of Representatives.

"We watch a Congress at war with itself because they're unwilling to leave campaign-style politics at the Capitol's door," he said. "The result is a debt ceiling limitation debate that made our democracy appear as if we could no longer effectively govern ourselves."

Rumors on Christie's potential presidential run were stoked earlier in the day in a National Review report that Thomas Kean, a former New Jersey governor, said Christie was giving a lot of thought to appeals "from major figures around the country."

"I think the odds are a lot better now than they were a couple weeks ago," Kean said.

During questioning, the subject of a run was raised by three people in the Reagan Library audience. One woman got a standing ovation after telling him, "I really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, reconsider."

"Your country needs you," she said.

Christie joked that only "a crazy egomaniac" would see such appeals as a burden.

"It's extraordinarily flattering," he said. "But by the same token, that heartfelt message you gave me is also not a reason for me to do it. That reason has to reside inside me."

Michael Finnegan writes for the Los Angeles Times. Visit the Los Angeles Times at www.latimes.com.
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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2011, 07:42:07 AM »
LOL good post Benny, I disagree with calling him a fatso that is a low blow, maybe if he was dumb like coach, but the obvious is not funny.  It is funny though that the republicans are scared shitless because they still CAN'T find a candidate.  67% of people in this country want to tax the rich, Obama will preach it and deliver. 

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2011, 07:42:57 AM »
Read it and weep!!!

Barack Obama, Democratic Wrecking Ball


Here’s yet more good news for Democrats. National Journal reports:

One of the Democratic party’s leading pollsters [Stanley Greenberg] released a survey of 60 Republican-held battleground districts today, painting an ominous picture for congressional Democrats in 2012. The poll shows Democratic House candidates faring worse than they did in the 2010 midterms, being dragged down by an unpopular president who would lose to both Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.


The story goes on to say that instead of an overall anti-incumbent sentiment impacting members of both parties, voters are taking more of their anger out on Democrats. When voters were asked whether they’re supporting the Republican incumbent or a Democratic candidate, 50 percent preferred the Republican and just 41 percent backed the Democrat. And here’s the really ominous news for Democrats: Voters in these districts said they were more supportive of Republicans than they were during the 2010 midterms, when 48 percent said they backed the Republican candidate and 42 percent said they backed the Democrat. (Republicans won 55 percent of the overall vote in these 60 battleground districts, while Democrats took 43 percent.) In 2010, Republicans netted 63 House seats – their best showing since 1948.

There’s also this: President Obama’s job approval rating in the battleground districts is just 41 percent — and only 43 percent in the 30 more competitive seats that are a little more Democratic.

What this means is right now, based on the data of a respected Democratic pollster, Democrats would — if the election were held today — suffer a wipeout that makes what happened to them in 2010 look like a walk in the park. And things are likely to get worse, not better, as the months roll on.

It may be that Barack Obama will do to the Democratic Party what no one, not even Ronald Reagan, could achieve–which is to bring it to its knees.






http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/obama-poll-democrats-2012/

Obama will deliver alright.......he'll deliver another trip to the woodshed for the Democrats.

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 07:43:38 AM »
He did take the tax credits away from The Jersey Shore tv production, so that's gonna score him some potential votes.

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 07:53:10 AM »
Governor Krispy Kreme!
He's my straight-talking, no BS governor, and I'll call him whatever I want.  ;)



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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 07:56:51 AM »


http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/obama-poll-democrats-2012/

Obama will deliver alright.......he'll deliver another trip to the woodshed for the Democrats.

So they prefer Republicans in...Republican-held districts? 

Not trying to be condescending, I just don't really get it.  Doesn't seem surprising that if you poll 60 places that elected Republicans, the majority probably lean Republican.

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 08:07:37 AM »
So they prefer Republicans in...Republican-held districts? 

Not trying to be condescending, I just don't really get it.  Doesn't seem surprising that if you poll 60 places that elected Republicans, the majority probably lean Republican.


It means that, if the GOP is in good position to retain the seats they have AND SNATCH those seats that are "a little more Democratic". That could translate to an even larger majority in the House, along with the Senate, and ultimately the White House.

The gist of the article is Obama's bungling may lead to the Dems getting pummeled EVEN WORSE next year than they did last year. Only in 2012, Obama joins the screams of those Dems getting their backsides lit up.



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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 08:07:59 AM »
Here's the problem that many ignore...the republican party is a SOUTHERN party that has SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES as its base.
FATSO is from NEW JERSEY, and a lot less conservative then many in the punditry and the conservative media realize.

Even if Gov. Kreme were to run (and I don't believe he will), the Tea Baggers may like his combative style but not his views on several issues.

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Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, suggests New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie may have a tough time getting support from social conservatives if he decides to run for president.
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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 08:08:43 AM »
Benny - get over it and get yo marchin shoes on.  Obama is done. 

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 08:12:42 AM »
Benny:  Love the thread title.  "fatso".    haha...  nice.

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 08:16:21 AM »
Benny,

Please explain to us why you think we'd all be better of if Obama remained in office.  Consequently, tell us why we'd be worse with a guy like Christie.  Feel free to discuss their track records, positions on key issues, what changes each will make if they are in office.....
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 08:20:04 AM »
Here's the problem that many ignore...the republican party is a SOUTHERN party that has SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES as its base.
FATSO is from NEW JERSEY, and a lot less conservative then many in the punditry and the conservative media realize.

Even if Gov. Kreme were to run (and I don't believe he will), the Tea Baggers may like his combative style but not his views on several issues.

PerkinsChristie3



Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, suggests New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie may have a tough time getting support from social conservatives if he decides to run for president.


He's for school choice (conservative issue) and he's pro-life (conservative issue). He may butt heads with social conservatives on immigration and, perhaps, gay "marriage"/civil unions. But, he doesn't flat-out endorse the latter and has not tried to legalize gay "marriage" in New Jersey.


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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 08:22:22 AM »
Bernie Madoff / Joran Vandersloot  2012 would beat obama the way he is going.   

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 08:23:22 AM »
Bernie Madoff / Joran Vandersloot  2012 would beat obama the way he is going.   

Or Conrad Murray/Casey Anthony 2012

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 08:23:37 AM »
Benny,

Please explain to us why you think we'd all be better of if Obama remained in office.  Consequently, tell us why we'd be worse with a guy like Christie.  Feel free to discuss their track records, positions on key issues, what changes each will make if they are in office.....

Christie is fat, this is the primary problem.

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 08:24:40 AM »
And Obama is a communist radical freak show? 

Seems like weight problems are not nearly as important as having a human wrecking ball in the WH no?

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 08:26:18 AM »
LOL good post Benny, I disagree with calling him a fatso that is a low blow, maybe if he was dumb like coach, but the obvious is not funny.  It is funny though that the republicans are scared shitless because they still CAN'T find a candidate.  67% of people in this country want to tax the rich, Obama will preach it and deliver.  


The truth of the matter is that many dems are frustrated with nobama.....it won't be a cake walk for barack.....he is wearing thin on many americans.....the repubs need a strong candidate....yes in deed....but it is not like nobama walks on water any more.....he is starting to become very much like a strong odor that you can't get out of your house.....so repubs aren't scared shitless....but they do need to produce a strong candidate......imho....H erman Cain is that person!!! He would make a fine prez!

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 08:29:48 AM »
Repubs need to find a more exciting/intriguing candidate if they want to win.  I bet there's a ton of "low information" voters who've never even heard of Christie or any of these candidates except for Palin and probably Romney, and I will eat my hat if either of them is ever president.  As mediocre-to-bad as the Obama administration has been, none of these bozos seem likely to unseat him.  Obama's not so bad that people are going to vote for whoever else runs just because (s)he's not Obama.

Another thing I think people haven't often considered is that all the people who overwhelmingly elected Obama just a few years ago are pretty likely to vote for him again.  Nobody likes to admit a mistake!

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 08:34:07 AM »
Repubs need to find a more exciting/intriguing candidate if they want to win.  As mediocre-to-bad as the Obama administration has been, none of these bozos seem likely to unseat.  Obama's not so bad that people are going to vote for whoever else runs just because (s)he's not Obama.

Tell that to the independents.

In Ohio, for example, Obama is virtually tied with BOTH Romney and Perry (44-41 over Perry and 44-42 over Romney). That's leaves 14-15 percent undecided.

And, as is traditionally the case, about 80% of the undecideds go FOR THE CHALLENGER. The fact that Obama is this low in that state (and others) this early does not bode well for him.

If the economy doesn't improve, he is toast (and so are the Dems).

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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 08:39:32 AM »
Allen West: Obama Intentionally Killing the Economy
Fox News ^ | 9-28-11 | Fox News


Fla. Rep. Allen West was asked if President Obama is just inept or if he is intentionally harming the economy. West says he’s definitely doing this on purpose.

(Video at the Fox News link.)


(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...


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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 08:52:40 AM »
Tell that to the independents.

In Ohio, for example, Obama is virtually tied with BOTH Romney and Perry (44-41 over Perry and 44-42 over Romney). That's leaves 14-15 percent undecided.

And, as is traditionally the case, about 80% of the undecideds go FOR THE CHALLENGER. The fact that Obama is this low in that state (and others) this early does not bode well for him.

If the economy doesn't improve, he is toast (and so are the Dems).

That is true but I think you need to wait for a little closer to election time for such forecasts to be relevant.  The challenger "undecides" disproportion historically has only added a little over a 1% swing from the last pre-election poll with undecides left out (Gallup data), which would make it really close but not decisive for sure.  Then again when you're talking about gaps and swings on the order of 1-3%, anything can happen really.

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/10/the_incumbent_r.html

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 08:58:29 AM »
That is true but I think you need to wait for a little closer to election time for such forecasts to be relevant.  The challenger "undecides" disproportion historically has only added a little over a 1% swing from the last pre-election poll with undecides left out (Gallup data), which would make it really close but not decisive for sure.  Then again when you're talking about gaps and swings on the order of 1-3%, anything can happen really.

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/10/the_incumbent_r.html

All the GOP has to do is move the needle 3.5 points from 2008 and Obama is gone. 

Obama is done. 

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 09:01:06 AM »
All the GOP has to do is move the needle 3.5 points from 2008 and Obama is gone.  

Right, not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying 3.5 is a lot compared to 1.3 (the historical swing) and both are within typical poll margins of error.  Not sure why either side is trying to paint this election out like it's a done deal.

Not sure where you're getting "3.5" from either; this isn't a popular vote.

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Re: Amid Depressing Field of LOUSY Candidates, Repubs Beg FATSO To Run
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 09:03:20 AM »
Benny - get over it and get yo marchin shoes on.  Obama is done. 
Honkys for Herman!!!! im voting for the real black guy who can get it done. Herman!!!!