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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #625 on: October 16, 2011, 07:41:07 PM »
A Breitbart.tv investigation has uncovered that the man whose epic meltdown video at the "Occupy Wall Street" protests went viral is really Edward T. Hall III. Mr. Hall is a Columbia graduate student who has a trust fund set up by his grandfather. He recently made headlines for trying to board a flight at JFK airport by hopping the ticket counter and diving onto the baggage carousel.

He was charged with trespassing and is free on "conditional release."


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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #626 on: October 16, 2011, 08:01:44 PM »
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A few observations about Occupy Wall Street
The World Tribune ^ | October 16, 2011 | Sumantra Maitra
Posted on October 16, 2011 8:05:14 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Almost twenty years back, when the Soviet and East European states crumbled, who would have thought that socialism would make such a comeback? Here are a few ground truths about the Occupy Wall Street movement and the various spinoffs it has started.

They are not democratic: No surprise there, really. There can be no movement which professes plebiscitary democracy, through means of a revolution, which can ever be democratic. Tahrir Square was not democratic, Anti-G20 demonstrations were not democratic, the Madrid and Athens riots were not democratic. Nor will be this Occupy movement. Already as I write this, riots have erupted in Rome and might erupt again in London. There is a fear of rioting in Toronto too. Did I just say revolution? Yes, I did. And no I did not make that up. They themselves call it Global revolution. Their charter of demands are completely filled up with demands directed against “corporate greed”. They personally heckled Murdoch, a man, who for all the good and bad in him, is responsible for the job creations of thousands of people across the globe. Their demands are contradictory, like ending fossil fuel and nuclear power stations.

They want well paying jobs, they want their student loan debts to be forgiven, they want their basic amenities to be guaranteed by the State, they want free subsidies, they want to close down and picket corporates and banks, (where will they perform their jobs I wonder!), they want open borders so that anyone can go and work anywhere while shying away from competition and blaming the corporates for outsourcing and taking away their jobs, they want re-distribution of wealth, and they want the wealth of big banks transferred to them. All this, without any competition and regardless of their qualities and whether they are eligible or qualified for it.

They are completely out of touch with reality. Completely out of touch. They are without leadership, and their goals are vague. They are closet antisemites, and the “I am 99%” slogan thing, is in shortage of better words, pure rubbish. They are bad for business. Remember Tahrir Square? Well…it cost Egypt over $55 billion. And they didn’t actually get democracy, not in Egypt, Tunisia, or Libya. Without question, the cost of this occupation movements of public places will cost the taxpayers massively across the globe, not just the establishment and cleaning cost, but obstruction of daily business too. But then since when were populist economies productive anyway?

This looks like the 60s all over again. They are inevitably bad dressers, are terribly unhygienic, wear hand-printed multi-coloured psychadelic shoes, hilariously bad and crudely worded slogans, guitars, red flags, flowers at wrong places, nudity and indecent public exposure, marijuana and drugs…you name it, it is there.

One difference though. The leaders of the free democratic world in those days had the spine to deal with hooligans the way they should be treated.

Today, unfortunately, we have dithering, politically correct, and narrow minded cowards who are afraid to take tough actions for the fear of losing the votebanks. This is sad, and self destructive in the long run.

In 2011, apparently, the people who actually pay taxes are afraid of the people who want to take everything by force.










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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #629 on: October 17, 2011, 05:41:02 AM »
Protesters Debate What Demands, if Any, to Make

Victor J. Blue for The New York Times

Although David Haack's proposal to formulate policy demands was voted down in August, he said the protest's “true democratic process” had inspired him.

By MEREDITH HOFFMAN




 In a quiet corner across the street from Zuccotti Park, a cluster of 25 solemn-faced protesters struggled one night to give Occupy Wall Street what critics have found to be most lacking.


“We absolutely need demands,” said Shawn Redden, 35, an earnest history teacher in the group. “Like Frederick Douglass said, ‘Power concedes nothing without a demand.’ ”

The influence and staying power of Occupy Wall Street are undeniable: similar movements have sprouted around the world, as the original group enters its fifth week in the financial district. Yet a frequent criticism of the protesters has been the absence of specific policy demands.

Mr. Redden and other demonstrators formed the Demands Working Group about a week and a half ago, hoping to identify specific actions they would formally ask local and federal governments to adopt. But the very nature of Occupy Wall Street has made that task difficult, in New York and elsewhere.

Although Occupy Seattle has a running tally of votes on its Web site — 395 votes to “nationalize the Federal Reserve,” 138 for “universal education” and 245 to “end corporate personhood,” for example — Mike Hines, a member of the group, said the list would soon be removed because the provisions had not been clearly explained and because some people were not capable of voting online.

“It feels like we’re all in a similar boat,” Mr. Hines said of other Occupy movements. “We all want to include as many voices as possible.”

In New York, the demands committee held a two-hour open forum last Monday, coming up with two major categories: jobs for all and civil rights. The team will continue to meet twice a week to develop a list of specific proposals, which it will then discuss with protesters and eventually take to the General Assembly, a nightly gathering of the hundreds of protesters in the park.

A two-thirds majority would have to approve each proposal, and any passionate opponent could call for the entire vote to be delayed.

The General Assembly has already adopted a “Declaration of the Occupation of New York City,” which includes a list of grievances against corporations and a call for others to join the group in peaceful assembly. To many protesters, that general statement is enough, and the open democracy of Zuccotti Park is the point of the movement.

“Demands are disempowering since they require someone else to respond,” said Gabriel Willow, a protester strolling past a sleeping-bag pod of young adults in the park last Monday. “It’s not like we couldn’t come up with any, but I don’t think people would vote for them.”

Although Monday’s open forum was meagerly attended, politically active members like Cecily McMillan and David Haack, who first proposed formulating demands in a pre-campout planning meeting in August, said they were ready to take action. Mr. Haack, who in 2009 tried to run for the White Plains City Council, admitted feeling disillusioned after the group struck down their proposal in August, but now he feels inspired by the movement’s “true democratic process,” even if it means slower progress going forward.

“Let’s give ourselves two weeks,” Ms. McMillan said about presenting provisions to the General Assembly. Ms. McMillan, 23, a New School graduate student, feels such dedication to the cause that she has contemplated taking a sabbatical from her studies — but she has begun to worry that the movement could become “a joke” without specific goals. Still, with the right demands, she said, more union members and diverse contingencies could join.

In Austin, Tex., participants agreed on four demands, including an end to corporate personhood and tax reform. One Austin activist, Lauren Walker, linked the movement’s goals directly to government officials.

“This is our time because we’re coming up to the 2012 elections,” she said, suggesting that protesters saw the presidential election as a “deadline” to draft revolutionary policy suggestions.

Elsewhere, Occupy Boston, Occupy D.C. and Occupy Philadelphia were among the many groups in the movement slowly formulating demands, though in each city, opposition has arisen from skeptical demonstrators.

In Boston, Meghann Sheridan wrote on the group’s Facebook page, “The process is the message.” In Baltimore, Cullen Nawalkowsky, a protester, said by phone that the point was a “public sphere not moderated by commodities or mainstream political discourse.” An Occupy Cleveland participant, Harrison Kalodimos, is even writing a statement about why demands are not the answer.

Joseph Schwartz, a political science professor and an Occupy Philadelphia participant, said he thought the movement’s “anarchist strain” discouraged a demand-making environment.

Whatever it is, New York’s small group of focused activists said they would not yield.

“If we don’t make demands, the political parties will make them for us,” a longtime protester, Eric Lerner, 64, said from his spot in the cluster last Monday. “We have to get it right this time.”


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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #631 on: October 17, 2011, 06:07:20 AM »

EXTREMISTS ON PARADE
Proof! Wall Street protests no 'spontaneous uprising'
Major demonstration directed by leftist shadow organization

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Posted: October 16, 2011
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By Aaron Klein
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Protesters at "Occupy Wall Street" event


A public relations firm closely partnered with the George Soros-funded Tides Foundation represented last week's anti-Wall Street march past millionaires' homes in New York, WND has learned.

Fenton Communications has been behind the public relations strategy of a who's who of far-left causes, organizations and activists, from Soros himself to Health Care for America Now to crafting strategies for MoveOn.org and a litany of anti-war groups.

Fenton, which works closely with Tides, first made its name representing communist dictatorships in the 1980s.

Fenton's founder is tied to President Obama and to a slew of Saul Alinsky-style community organizing groups directly involved in recent U.S. street protests, including in Wisconsin and New York.

Fenton's fingerprints on promoting and organizing the march bring further evidence suggesting the anti-Wall Street movement is a well-planned campaign and not the spontaneous uprising its leaders claim.

Here's the rundown on Obama's ties to "communists, socialists and other anti-American extremists" – all in "The Manchurian President."

Already, questions have been raised by the news media about Adbusters, the magazine that is reported to have come up with the Occupy Wall Street idea after Arab Spring protests toppled governments in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. The media has been probing Adbusters' source of funding – the Tides Foundation.

Tides acts like a massive clearinghouse of donations to a slew of liberal groups. Critics have alleged the center acts to obscure the ultimate sources of donations by collecting significant sums of money from a few large donors and then funneling the money to thousands of liberal causes.

Soros' Open Society Institute is a prominent Tides Center donor, giving the group $3.5 million between 2007 and 2009 alone.

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Press release

Last week's Occupy Wall Street march past millionaires' homes was first announced in a press release entitled, "Community Groups and Progressive Organizations Join Together to Plan 'Millionaires March' with Occupy Wall Street Protestors."

The release detailed how a group calling itself 99 New York was joining the Occupy Wall Street movement as a partner. The 99 organization is purportedly a coalition of unions and community organizations, such as UnitedNY, Strong Economy for All Coalition, NY Communities for Change, and the Working Families Party.

It was the 99 New York group, which claims to represent the will of 99 percent of the U.S. population, that led last week's Occupy Wall Street march down the streets of New York.

The press release was sent to reporters and was also posted in various Occupy Wall Street affiliated websites, including StrongForAll.org.

The release listed contact information for 99 New York's spokesmen: Doug Forand of Red Horse Strategies, a firm that has represented scores of Democrat politicians; and Doug Gordon, senior vice president of Fenton Communications.

Gordon's Fenton email was provided on the release. Prior to joining Fenton, Gordon worked for years on Capitol Hill and in Democratic politics. He spent seven years as the top aide to Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich.

Soros, Fenton, Tides

Fenton Communications was founded in 1982 by David Fenton, an activist who served as a photographer for Bill Ayers' domestic Weather Underground terror group.

Fenton Communications works in conjunction with the Soros-funded Tides Center that funded Adbusters, which was reported to have started the concept of Occupy Wall Street.

Fenton used the Tides Center to set up Environmental Media Services in 1994. Tides reportedly originally ran EMS' daily operations.

David Fenton serves on the board of numerous Tides-funded groups, while his firm represents more than 30 Tides Center grantees, as well as Soros himself and the billionaire's Open Society Institute. Fenton helped to craft Moveon.org's attacks on Gen. David Petraeus.

An example of the close public relations relationship between Fenton and Tides is the Social Venture Network, which was established and operates as a project of the Tides Foundation, while its strategy is represented by Fenton. SVN's board has included Tides' founder Drummond Pike as well as Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink.

Another group, September Eleventh Families For Peaceful Tomorrows, is an antiwar organization founded by individuals who lost loved ones in 9-11 terrorist attacks. The group's campaign was coordinated by Fenton while the group was funded by Tides.

Also represented by Fenton is the Win Without War group, which was funded by Soros and Tides.

WND found more than 30 recent examples of Tides grantees whose strategy was coordinated by Fenton.

Fenton, Obama, Ayers ties

While David Fenton first photographed Ayers in the 1960s, he later served alongside both Ayers and Obama on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit which channeled money to a slew of progressive groups, including the Tides Center and the Alinsky-style Midwest Academy training outfit. Obama served as a paid director on the Woods Fund board from 1999 to 2002.

WND recently reported Midwest's founder, Heather Booth, has been training unions on how to use the economic crisis.

Citizen Action of Wisconsin, an arm of Booth's Midwest Academy, is part of the Moving Wisconsin Forward movement, one of the main organizers of the major Wisconsin protests in February, as WND first reported.

Fenton's managing director, Ira Arlook, also served as director of Booth's Citizens Action.

With research by Brenda J. Elliott


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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #632 on: October 17, 2011, 06:27:08 AM »
Journolist 2.0: OccupyDC Emails Show MSM, Dylan Ratigan, Working With Protesters To Craft Message
Big Journalism ^ | 10/16/11 | Dana Loesch




Big Journalism has learned that the Occupy Washington DC movement is working with well-known media members to craft its demands and messaging while these media members report on the movement.

Someone has made the emails from the Occupy D.C. email distro public and searchable. The names in the list are a veritable who’s who in media. Journolist 2.0 includes well known names such as MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan, Rolling Stone’s Matt Tiabbi who both are actively participating; involvement from other listers such as Bill Moyers and Glenn Greenwald plus well-known radicals like Noam Chomsky, remains unclear.


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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #633 on: October 17, 2011, 08:44:47 AM »
New York’s Marxist epicenter
By CHARLES GASPARINO



Last Updated: 4:06 AM, October 17, 2011

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The standard portrayal of the Wall Street protesters goes something like this: Ragtag group of unemployed young adults, venting often incoherent but overall legitimate populist outrage about economic inequality. But go down to the movement’s headquarters, as I did this past weekend, and you see something far different.


It’s not just that knowledge of their “oppressors” -- the evil bankers -- is pretty thin, or that many of them are clearly college kids with nothing better to do than embrace the radical chic of “a cause.” I found a unifying and increasingly coherent ideology emerging among the protesters, which at its core has less to do with the evils of the banking business and more about the evils of capitalism -- and the need for a socialist revolution.

It’s not an overstatement to describe Zuccotti Park as New York’s Marxist epicenter. Flags with the iconic face of the Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara are everywhere; the only American flag I saw was hanging upside down. The “occupiers” openly refer to each other as “comrade,” and just about every piece of literature on offer (free or for sale) advocated socialism in the Marxist tradition as a cure-all for the inequalities of the American economic system.

Don’t try to explain to any of these protesters how those who sought to create a Marxist utopian dream of revolution also gave us the Stalinist purges, Mao’s bloody Cultural Revolution and many other efforts to collectivize thought in the name of economic “justice.”

One woman was holding a “Nationalize the Federal Reserve” sign; I tried to explain that the Fed is already nationalized, because it’s part of government, and she told me to “go check my f--king facts -- it’s privately owned.”

That’s when I was handed a piece paper offering the following wisdom: “The Game of Capitalism Breeds Dishonest Men.” The author of such deep thinking was a dude named De La Vega, an artist convicted a few years back for painting graffiti on a warehouse in The Bronx.

That was pretty mild compared to the sentiments offered in the official “Statement of the League for the Revolutionary Party” on the protests. These guys view as the enemy not just Wall Street tycoons, but also liberal labor leaders like Richard Trumka of the AFL-CIO.

The problem with Trumka, according to the Revolutionary Party and its Zuccotti Park contingent: He wants to work with wishy-washy Democratic Party politicians, where the true revolutionaries want to “defend and develop Marxist theory as a guide to action,” which is the protests’ real purpose.

Maybe the worse-spent dollar I have ever spent in my life was on a propaganda broadsheet titled “Justice,” which advocates “Struggle, Solidarity, Socialism.” On the front page of the newspaper-like document, beneath the headline “Capitalism: System Failure,” was a tease for a story on the economy and how “influential business economist Nouriel Roubini” recently said how “Karl Marx had it right. At some point, capitalism can destroy itself.”

Yes, the left-leaning Roubini made that fatuous statement, and many similar ones -- so many, in fact, that he has lost much of his credibility in financial circles, though that didn’t quite make it into the “Marx Was Right!” story.

Also absent was any notice of how the much-hated banks benefited not from free-market capitalism, which would have let them fail in 2008, but from crony capitalism that bailed them out. The similar cronyism practiced by Trumka and the Obama administration -- massive spending on useless but politically connected businesses like Solyndra, paired with class-warfare rhetoric -- likewise has very little to do with free markets.

I don’t advise going down to Zuccotti Park to have a serious conversation with the protesters, given their growing propensity toward violence and the growing revolutionary tone of the movement. But I would suggest that President Obama might want to put a hold on his support for the Occupy Wall Street movement as his 2012 re-election bid approaches.

If he keeps saying nice things about the protesters, the debate among business types and voters won’t be whether the president has some socialist leanings, but how much virtue he sees in the thoughts of Karl Marx.

Charles Gasparino is a Fox Business Network senior correspondent.

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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #634 on: October 17, 2011, 09:15:14 AM »
Lot of democracy haters in this thread. 
Abandon every hope...

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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #635 on: October 17, 2011, 09:19:37 AM »
Lot of democracy haters in this thread. 

I hope this movement grows - really - the leftists in all their unrestrained glory are the perfect advertisement for conservatives/libertarians 

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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #636 on: October 17, 2011, 11:02:22 AM »
'Occupiers' killing stimulus-funded sod in D.C.
by David Freddoso

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The Occupy D.C. protests, as Conn noted the other day, continue to violate federal law by camping out on National Park Service Land. Law enforcement officials from the alphabet soup of agencies that police D.C. are letting them get away with it.

You could say they haven't harmed anyone here downtown, except that they have. In McPherson Square, where some two or three dozen of them have been camping out for the last week, they have already ruined a few newly sodded sections of the park. The re-sodding of the park was completed this year as part of a $419,000 stimulus project to refurbish the square. The park, which is across from the Examiner Building in downtown D.C., was shut down for months during the project.

You could say they're stimulating the economy, because now taxpayers will have to cough up a few thousand more to fix the damage.

What you see in the accompanying photos are portions of the park where tents have been removed recently. In a few spots, the grass is only mostly dead, but in others it's dead and gone, and the new sod has given way to mud. The areas where the Occupiers have their tents pitched right now will be all mud before the end of this week, if they aren't already.


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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #637 on: October 17, 2011, 01:20:54 PM »
**Update** Communist Marching with #OccupyChicago Identified as OFA Organizer for President Obama


Big Government ^ | 10/17/11 | Rebel Pundit




Yesterday we released a video of John Bachtell, a national board member from the Communist Party U.S.A., addressing the bongo-banging, spoiled, suburban run-aways at the #OccupyChicago tent city and an interview with a few of his “fellow travelers” in the march.

Thanks to a reader tip, we have identified the three individuals in the march who we interviewed. In the photo below starting on the left is James Raines, a University of Memphis teacher (from reader tip), next to his right is Jordan Farrar (Young Communist League & Organizing for America), and next to him is Gabe Niechcial, another young communist.


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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #638 on: October 17, 2011, 01:55:31 PM »
This whole charade is nothing more than "generation nothingness" wanting a cause to harken back to the glory days of their drug-addled baby boomer parents 1960's. 

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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #639 on: October 17, 2011, 01:57:13 PM »
This whole charade is nothing more than "generation nothingness" wanting a cause to harken back to the glory days of their drug-addled baby boomer parents 1960's. 

These pieces of human fecal matter need a golden shower daily until they wake up from their commie induced delusionals.   

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« Reply #640 on: October 17, 2011, 02:29:22 PM »
A Breitbart.tv investigation has uncovered that the man whose epic meltdown video at the "Occupy Wall Street" protests went viral is really Edward T. Hall III. Mr. Hall is a Columbia graduate student who has a trust fund set up by his grandfather. He recently made headlines for trying to board a flight at JFK airport by hopping the ticket counter and diving onto the baggage carousel.

He was charged with trespassing and is free on "conditional release."


http://tv.breitbart.com/occupywallst-poster-boy-a-trust-fund-baby-attempted-stowaway-at-jfk





This confederacy of communists, dopers, socialists, anarchists, etc is going to great for Obama next year. 



Doesn't matter if he has a trust fund...it could be a conservatory like Britney Spears.  Not only that, this guy clearly has mental issues. 
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Re: Occupy Wall Street = Sad, Laughable, and Pathetic Joke
« Reply #641 on: October 17, 2011, 06:10:34 PM »
Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd
In interviews, protesters show that they are leftists out of step with most American voters. Yet Democrats are embracing them anyway.

By DOUGLAS SCHOEN

President Obama and the Democratic leadership are making a critical error in embracing the Occupy Wall Street movement—and it may cost them the 2012 election.

Last week, senior White House adviser David Plouffe said that "the protests you're seeing are the same conversations people are having in living rooms and kitchens all across America. . . . People are frustrated by an economy that does not reward hard work and responsibility, where Wall Street and Main Street don't seem to play by the same set of rules." Nancy Pelosi and others have echoed the message.

Yet the Occupy Wall Street movement reflects values that are dangerously out of touch with the broad mass of the American people—and particularly with swing voters who are largely independent and have been trending away from the president since the debate over health-care reform.

The protesters have a distinct ideology and are bound by a deep commitment to radical left-wing policies. On Oct. 10 and 11, Arielle Alter Confino, a senior researcher at my polling firm, interviewed nearly 200 protesters in New York's Zuccotti Park. Our findings probably represent the first systematic random sample of Occupy Wall Street opinion.

Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn't represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.

The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%).

An overwhelming majority of demonstrators supported Barack Obama in 2008. Now 51% disapprove of the president while 44% approve, and only 48% say they will vote to re-elect him in 2012, while at least a quarter won't vote.

Fewer than one in three (32%) call themselves Democrats, while roughly the same proportion (33%) say they aren't represented by any political party.

What binds a large majority of the protesters together—regardless of age, socioeconomic status or education—is a deep commitment to left-wing policies: opposition to free-market capitalism and support for radical redistribution of wealth, intense regulation of the private sector, and protectionist policies to keep American jobs from going overseas.

Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement—no matter the cost. By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, but 58% oppose raising taxes for everybody, with only 36% in favor. And by a close margin, protesters are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary (49%) or unnecessary (51%).

Thus Occupy Wall Street is a group of engaged progressives who are disillusioned with the capitalist system and have a distinct activist orientation. Among the general public, by contrast, 41% of Americans self-identify as conservative, 36% as moderate, and only 21% as liberal. That's why the Obama-Pelosi embrace of the movement could prove catastrophic for their party.

In 1970, aligning too closely with the antiwar movement hurt Democrats in the midterm election, when many middle-class and working-class Americans ended up supporting hawkish candidates who condemned student disruptions. While that 1970 election should have been a sweep against the first-term Nixon administration, it was instead one of only four midterm elections since 1938 when the president's party didn't lose seats.

With the Democratic Party on the defensive throughout the 1970 campaign, liberal Democrats were only able to win on Election Day by distancing themselves from the student protest movement. So Adlai Stevenson III pinned an American flag to his lapel, appointed Chicago Seven prosecutor Thomas Foran chairman of his Citizen's Committee, and emphasized "law and order"—a tactic then employed by Ted Kennedy, who denounced the student protesters as "campus commandos" who must be repudiated, "especially by those who may share their goals."

Today, having abandoned any effort to work with the congressional super committee to craft a bipartisan agreement on deficit reduction, President Obama has thrown in with those who support his desire to tax oil companies and the rich, rather than appeal to independent and self-described moderate swing voters who want smaller government and lower taxes, not additional stimulus or interference in the private sector.

Rather than embracing huge new spending programs and tax increases, plus increasingly radical and potentially violent activists, the Democrats should instead build a bridge to the much more numerous independents and moderates in the center by opposing bailouts and broad-based tax increases.

Put simply, Democrats need to say they are with voters in the middle who want cooperation, conciliation and lower taxes. And they should work particularly hard to contrast their rhetoric with the extremes advocated by the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

Mr. Schoen, who served as a pollster for President Bill Clinton, is author of "Hopelessly Divided: The New Crisis in American Politics and What It Means for 2012 and Beyond," forthcoming from Rowman and Littlefield.

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IBD Editorials ^ | October 17, 2011 | Editorial
Posted on October 17, 2011 8:20:58 PM EDT by Kaslin

Journalism: A cache of new Occupy Wall Street emails shows several press types offering advice to the protesters. We'd be shocked, except the mainstream media have been openly helping the Occupy movement all along.

In one of the hundreds of Occupy Wall Street emails now posted online, MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan warns occupiers that they shouldn't issue demands. "The focus on simple shared principle and intent to align with all who agree with that principle is a unique strength," he advised.

Dylan isn't an activist. He's not a PR guy, either. He's allegedly a journalist, and one with a long list of journalistic credentials on his resume. Nevertheless, the left dismissed Ratigan's and other journalists' email help, noting that they are avowed liberals. Maybe so, but try to imagine the reaction if Bill O'Reilly were caught emailing tips to the Tea Party.

In any case, the real crime here isn't a few emails from left-wing journalists, but the fact that the rest of the "unbiased" mainstream press has been overtly helping the protesters as well.

Don't think so? Try to find press accounts of speakers at Occupy rallies who have overtly called for violence. Or coverage of the rising incidents of anti-Semitism, expressed in verbal abuse of Jews and signs like: "Google the following: Wall St. Jews, Jewish billionaires, Jews & Federal Reserve Bank." Or the anti-Americanism on display: flags flown upside down, flags with "Sold Out" painted on them, flags trampled underfoot. In Portland, occupiers sang along to "F*** the USA."

Nothing to see here, folks.

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« Reply #643 on: October 17, 2011, 07:22:02 PM »
this OWS is absolutely the MSNBC version of tea party.

same way fox promoted it while msnbc trashed the tea party things.

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this OWS is absolutely the MSNBC version of tea party.

same way fox promoted it while msnbc trashed the tea party things.

astroturf all around.

Bro - tell you what - since you have never been to NYC - why not take a trip up here and check the place out?   I will be your tour guide? 

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Bro - tell you what - since you have never been to NYC - why not take a trip up here and check the place out?   I will be your tour guide?  

i'm afraid we'd sit at a table for 2 hours dirnking beers with a laptop/internet connection.

at the end of the night - you'd be a 911 truther, and i'd be putting on brass knuckles to go beat up some illegals while wearing a "Drill Palin" t-shirt.

the world would change, bro.  Ignorance is bliss.  You think 19 arabs dropped WTC7 and called off Norad, and I think bloomberg's illegals program is, well...

You get the idea.

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« Reply #646 on: October 17, 2011, 07:38:20 PM »
i'm afraid we'd sit at a table for 2 hours dirnking beers with a laptop/internet connection.

at the end of the night - you'd be a 911 truther, and i'd be putting on brass knuckles to go beat up some illegals while wearing a "Drill Palin" t-shirt.

the world would change, bro.  Ignorance is bliss.  You think 19 arabs dropped WTC7 and called off Norad, and I think bloomberg's illegals program is, well...

You get the idea.

LOL.   I'll drive you to hunts point, sounth Bronx, Mott haven, Brooklyn, mt Vernon, Webster ave, Harlem, etc and you will know where I come from. 

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LOL.   I'll drive you to hunts point, sounth Bronx, Mott haven, Brooklyn, mt Vernon, Webster ave, Harlem, etc and you will know where I come from. 

If we run into trump
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If we run into trump
i'll keep lookeyloo for crooked 5.0 if you want to blow him.  you can borrow my kneepads.

I can't believe you have never been to NYC.    It's literally the center of the planet city wise.    24 7 everything! 

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Mumia Supports Occupy Philly Movement
myfoxphilly.com ^ | Oct. 14, 2011
Posted on October 17, 2011 10:32:03 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY

In a podcast from prison, convicted murder Mumia Abu-Jamal says he’s fully supportive of the Occupy movement camped out in New York and Philadelphia.

Abu-Jamal compares the Occupy Wall Street and the Occupy Philly demonstrations to the uprising in Egypt, as well as the political protests in Wisconsin.

Mumia is on death row in a western Pennsylvania prison for killing Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner, but he releases regular podcasts on a Web site called Prison Radio.

He says “the central focus of their protests is capitalism…. Especially since the economic tumble of 2008.”

“Social discontent is so wide spread it is spreading like wildfire,” he adds, comparing the support of politicians of Wall Street like “vampires at a blood bank.”

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