OWS = Rape, Pimps, Masturbation, TB, Defecation, Rats, Robbery, and Murder

[240 is Back]

worse than teenage drama queens.  a bunch of protesters being whiny.  and a bunch of grown men high fiving about it.  sheesh.

[Soul Crusher]

worse than teenage drama queens.  a bunch of protesters being whiny.  and a bunch of grown men high fiving about it.  sheesh.

[Butterbean]

Occupy Wall Street: At Zuccotti Park, Conflict Arises Among Occupiers
Posted: 10/22/11 11:48 AM ET React Amazing




Events at Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement in Lower Manhattan, have become increasingly dramatic in recent days, as egos have clashed, visions competed, and the unity of the protesters has been questioned.

The debate over whether or not the protesters should draft a list of demands led to a New York Times piece that dominated a recent General Assembly discussion. Along with complaints from area residents and continued pressure from the city about cleanliness and noise, growing concerns about safety and theft on the premises, and the proposal of a Spokes Council which for two nights in a row failed to gain consensus from the GA, it has been a long week at Zuccotti Park.

The most vocal members of the movement will say quite clearly there are no "leaders," and the avoidance of that term has led to what some view as a lack of direction for Occupy Wall Street in New York. Differences among the occupiers are inevitable -- and as many working groups will tell you, it has been difficult to get things done.

There's no shortage of talking, and you never know who will take hold of the People's Mic. Persuasive speakers on all sides can give General Assembly meetings a roller-coaster feel. Someone always seems to oppose a budget proposal, or have a strong dissenting opinion on something that seems on its way to sure passage. Just one voice joining the debate at the last minute has the power to sway the entire discussion.

With every proposal, there are questions and there are concerns, and the process continues and continues. The facilitators say numerous times the group has strayed off process. Questions are sometimes ignored for being "off-topic" even when they aren't, time constraints are cited and frustrations boil over. Occupiers curse, speak out of turn and sometimes they just keep on talking, despite "Mic Check" calls over them. Those on all sides alienate each other.

This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.

"We have worked for you! Appreciate us!" the leader of the proposal shouted angrily to the GA in response to voices of dissent.

After a long debate, the proposal was tabled. No funding for the drummers. After the meeting, one drummer cursed and yelled at GA members for their decision. He confronted another occupier and the two shouted obscenities back and forth; a physical fight nearly erupted but a peacemaker came between them.

On Friday, a proposal for a Spokes Council -- a group led by cluster representatives that would make budgetary and logistical decisions -- was debated at length. The General Assembly meeting Friday night lasted from 7 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., even though they're officially only scheduled to last until 9 p.m. and quiet hours are supposed to begin after 11 p.m. The NYPD decided not to disrupt the assembly, and the People's Mic quieted as a sign of respect for the final two and a half hours.

But those two and a half hours were just as tense as the drummers' proposal. General Assembly members complained that they would lose power if a Spokes Council was formed, while facilitators and speakers for the working group behind the proposal insisted that the council would decentralize power in a necessary way. They argued that anyone could be part of working groups and clusters, which would each have a representative on the Spokes Council. One prominent organizer made the point that there would even be a group for people not in a working group, so everyone would be included in some way.

The concerns nonetheless continued. Occupiers raised their voices louder, saying they felt disenfranchised and confused. A two-sided document jam-packed with text contained all pertinent information about the proposal, but only five minutes were set aside to read it. "This is too confusing to read in five minutes," said one occupier. "We need more time," said another.

The two sides went back and forth. "This is a living document! It can be added to, amended to," a speaker pleaded. Another said the proposal has been in the works for three weeks, "workshopped to death," and they did not want to draw the process out longer. As the debate continued, those behind the proposal conceded, "No system is perfect."

In the end, the proponents of the Spokes Council, which included several working group members and a Finance Committee representative, caved to the dissenters -- even after making a significant amendment that would allow the General Assembly to dissolve the Spokes Council at any time. The occupiers were granted more time to consider the document; they now have five days before the GA reconvenes for a vote on Wednesday.

That decision was made after 16 blocked the proposal, meaning they were prepared to leave the movement if it was passed in its current form. They gave many different reasons for opposing it.

But an occupier who favored the Spokes Council wasn't convinced, saying in disbelief after the discussion ended, "That's it? What have we been doing the last 5 hours?"

The conflicts among occupiers can't continue forever, and the most passionate organizers know this. They're planning to "Occupy Central Park" next month -- on 11-11-11 -- and hope the move will bring the protesters together again and unite them with their counterparts across the world.

But there's no telling what will happen at Zuccotti Park before then. And the cold of winter lingers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-kanalley/occupy-wall-street-zuccotti-park_b_1026400.html




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LMFAO! ! !  ! ! ! 


F'ng morons.   

This is very interesting.

Out of curiosity where was the $8000 for new musical equipment supposed to come from?  From the protestors?

[Soul Crusher]

This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.






Hhhmmmmm.    Sabotaged???

[Butterbean]

This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse -- the group of drummers -- for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they've been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone.






Hhhmmmmm.    Sabotaged???

I can't tell where the "funding" supposed to come from?   

[Soul Crusher]

I can't tell where the "funding" supposed to come from?   

Tips from tourists and other fools walking by.   

[Butterbean]

Tips from tourists and other fools walking by.   

Interesting, thanks. 

So the drumming group wants it spent on drums and others do not agree and so the drummers are upset as they feel they "deserve the funding more than anyone."

It's like a mini-protest that somewhat mirrors the larger protest.

[tonymctones]

this is true...I am not happy about the protesters but the tea party groups get together for a half an hour....meanwhile these protesters have been demonstrating for weeks on end with very few arrests relatively

there have been NUMEROUS arrest across the country in regards to these protest.

what do you consider relatively few arrests? LMAO

[Nomad]

PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'

The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 demands from their website.

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/oct/3/picket-occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifest/


Too funny.

Last time someone try to impose this stupid shit ( well most of their demands are bloody fucking retarded very few ok) this is what happened in the end.

Enjoy getting assfucked by the Communist Party elite you prole retards.

Being born in USSR during the time when Soviet Union economy and government was collapsing I cant stand most of these fucktards. I wish someone would erect a giant viewing screen right by these protesters and play clips of Cheka/NKVD executing "political prisoners" as well as w/e clips exist of the "Great Leap Forward" famines and executions.

[240 is Back]

there have been NUMEROUS arrest across the country in regards to these protest.

what do you consider relatively few arrests? LMAO

how many is "NUMEROUS?"

I mean, numberous can be 3, numerous can be 14 trillion.

Were there 14 trillion arrests?

LOLZERCOPTER at you attacking his use of a vague term with your own vague term

[tonymctones]

how many is "NUMEROUS?"

I mean, numberous can be 3, numerous can be 14 trillion.

Were there 14 trillion arrests?

LOLZERCOPTER at you attacking his use of a vague term with your own vague term

lol this coming from the jack ass who said there have been 3 arrests?

fuck off you troll...

[240 is Back]

lol this coming from the jack ass who said there have been 3 arrests?

fuck off you troll...

I've heard of 3 so far that were unrelated to arrests for unlawful protest.  Do you have link to details of # of arrests that were due to crimes not included stealing sidewalk space?

If they're an unlawful bunch I will be the first to call for their vaginas to be stuffed with salt. 

[Soul Crusher]

I've heard of 3 so far that were unrelated to arrests for unlawful protest.  Do you have link to details of # of arrests that were due to crimes not included stealing sidewalk space?

If they're an unlawful bunch I will be the first to call for their vaginas to be stuffed with salt. 

I guess you missed the 700 arrests for the commies shutting down the brooklyn bridge? 

[240 is Back]

I guess you missed the 700 arrests for the commies shutting down the brooklyn bridge? 

they need salt in their vaginas for disrupting commerce, in that case.

speaking of men with vaginas, I tried watching fox today... geez the females are hot, but they gotta be giving the men estrogen shots.  Holy Victim Fever batman

[tonymctones]

I've heard of 3 so far that were unrelated to arrests for unlawful protest.  Do you have link to details of # of arrests that were due to crimes not included stealing sidewalk space?

If they're an unlawful bunch I will be the first to call for their vaginas to be stuffed with salt. 

wait wait wait, so now youre back peddling and saying only breaking certain laws counts?

hahahah what about all the arrests in denver?

[240 is Back]

wait wait wait, so now youre back peddling and saying only breaking certain laws counts?

hahahah what about all the arrests in denver?

"All the" = what number?

Please, i'd like to shit all over these protesters.  how many have been arrested for these crimes of theft, rape, drum sabotage?

Geraldo is doing a big piece today, on the "pleasure parks" or nonstop orgies that these rallies could shortly become as tensions rise and the drug addled protesters develop familiarity and lust takes over.

[tonymctones]

"All the" = what number?

Please, i'd like to shit all over these protesters.  how many have been arrested for these crimes of theft, rape, drum sabotage?

Geraldo is doing a big piece today, on the "pleasure parks" or nonstop orgies that these rallies could shortly become as tensions rise and the drug addled protesters develop familiarity and lust takes over.

LOL why are you limiting the arrest to certain crimes and not simply breaking the law?

[andreisdaman]

I guess you missed the 700 arrests for the commies shutting down the brooklyn bridge? 

disorderly conduct arrests don't count..that is merely a violation that all protesters get when they are arrested....how many arrests have there been for serious crimes???

[tonymctones]

disorderly conduct arrests don't count..that is merely a violation that all protesters get when they are arrested....how many arrests have there been for serious crimes???

why dont they count you moron?

b/c you say so?

how many tea partiers got arrested for disorderly conduct?

[tonymctones]

LOL why are you limiting the arrest to certain crimes and not simply breaking the law?

bump for an answer you troll

[Soul Crusher]

'Occupy Wall Street' movement camps draw the homeless seeking food and shelter
The Cleveland Plain Dealer / The Associated Press ^ | October 22, 2011
Posted on October 22, 2011 11:22:14 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

PORTLAND, Ore. -- When Occupy Wall Street protesters took over two parks in Portland's soggy downtown, they pitched 300 tents and offered free food, medical care and shelter to anyone. They weren't just building, like so many of their brethren across the nation, a community to protest what they see as corporate greed.

They also created an ideal place for the homeless. Some were already living in the parks, while others were drawn from elsewhere to the encampment's open doors.

Now, protesters from Portland to Los Angeles to Atlanta are trying to distinguish between homeless people who are joining their movement and those who are there for the amenities. When night falls in Portland, for instance, protesters have been dealing with fights, drunken arguments and the display of the occasional knife....

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...

[andreisdaman]

bump for an answer you troll

Because "discon" is a catch-all phrase the police use when they arrest a protester..it could mean anything from not obeying an order by a police officer..to calling a police officer a name...to blocking traffic......blocking the sidewalk...not dispersing in a timely manner...cursing.....pis sing on the sidewalk...being drunk in public....its a very discretionary offense that is usually dismissed in court for lack of evidence, or due to the police officer actually lying about the offense in order to get the person arrested on SOMETHING.....most prosecutors, judges, and even police supervisors know this and wink at it.....no one actually ever goes to jail for these offenses..they are simply let go at the precinct with a ticket

I know this answer won't satisfy you but its the facts

[Soul Crusher]

Occupy Wall Street campground becoming spot for vagrants, ex-cons & 'takers' to call home
nydailynews.com ^
Posted on October 23, 2011 6:41:23 AM EDT by Sub-Driver

Occupy Wall Street campground becoming spot for vagrants, ex-cons & 'takers' to call home

BY Christina Boyle DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Sunday, October 23rd 2011, 4:00 AM

Zuccotti Park has become a haven for the homeless.

Enticed by the allure of free food and a community of open-minded people, increasing numbers are leaving New York's shelters to join the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

"I think this is a better situation to be involved with," said Matthew Maloney, 49, who was released from prison on Sept. 30 after serving time for a probation violation.

Maloney moved into a shelter in Staten Island and learned about Occupy Wall Street while watching television. Then the ex-con headed to Zuccotti Park on Oct. 13 and never left.

"I am around a good cause and around positive people, rather than in that other environment," he said.

Maloney has drifted in and out of the state prison system for more than three decades for a variety of crimes, including robbery and possession of stolen property.

"Everybody is being real with each other here," he said. "This is like a 'Twilight Zone.'"

Bronx couple Yvette Vigo and Orlando Nieves say they were forced into a shelter a year ago when they could not afford their rent.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...

[Soul Crusher]

They want $lice of the occu-pie: 500G fight at Zuccotti (Occupy Wall Street)
NY Post ^ | october 23, 2011 | GINGER ADAMS OTIS
Posted on October 23, 2011 8:35:35 AM EDT by lowbridge

Even in Zuccotti Park, greed is good.

Occupy Wall Street’s Finance Committee has nearly $500,000 in the bank, and donations continue to pour in -- but its reluctance to share the wealth with other protesters is fraying tempers.

Some drummers -- incensed they got no money to replace or safeguard their drums after a midnight vandal destroyed their instruments Wednesday -- are threatening to splinter off.

“F--k Finance. I hope Mayor Bloomberg gets an injunction and demands to see the movement’s books. We need to know how much money we really have and where it’s going,” said a frustrated Bryan Smith, 45, who joined OWS in Lower Manhattan nearly three weeks ago from Los Angeles, where he works in TV production.

Smith is a member of the Comfort Working Group -- one of about 30 small collectives that have sprung up within OWS. The Comfort group is charged with finding out what basic necessities campers need, like thermal underwear, and then raising money by soliciting donations on the street.

“The other day, I took in $2,000. I kept $650 for my group, and gave the rest to Finance. Then I went to them with a request -- so many people need things, and they should not be going without basic comfort items -- and I was told to fill out paperwork. Paperwork! Are they the government now?” Smith fumed, even as he cajoled the passing crowd for more cash.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...





Ha hah ha a a. 

[tonymctones]

Because "discon" is a catch-all phrase the police use when they arrest a protester..it could mean anything from not obeying an order by a police officer..to calling a police officer a name...to blocking traffic......blocking the sidewalk...not dispersing in a timely manner...cursing.....pis sing on the sidewalk...being drunk in public....its a very discretionary offense that is usually dismissed in court for lack of evidence, or due to the police officer actually lying about the offense in order to get the person arrested on SOMETHING.....most prosecutors, judges, and even police supervisors know this and wink at it.....no one actually ever goes to jail for these offenses..they are simply let go at the precinct with a ticket

I know this answer won't satisfy you but its the facts

LOL so how many tea partiers got arrested for these trumped up charges?