BET's Robert Johnson To Obama: Stop Attacking The Wealthy

[gcb]

You're missing the point you epic dumbass.  Value is created by labor.  It takes capital to put people to work.  But without labor there would never be any value created.  Capital and labor go hand in hand.  Go back and read a fucking book on capitalism.  Because you are clueless like most Americans.  And when most of us talk about rich we are not talking about small business owners who put people to work and who usually work in their business as well.  We are talking about the mega rich who sit back and trade stocks, derivatives etc.  They are not creating capital and they are not creating jobs.  They are simply redistributing wealth.  The stock market in general doesn't create wealth.......it doesn't create capital.  It's the LABORERS who create value from productive property which the rich own that creates wealth and value.  Why the fuck do you think our economy is imploding?  Because most of the wealth is in the form of numbers on a computer screen.  It means nothing.  There is only three ways to build true wealth via production.............. build it, grow it, and mine it.  If you're not doing one of those three things you'renot creating REAL tangible wealth and assets.  And the rich are hardly the ones building shit, growing shit, and mining shit.  

Capital is not "Money".  money has no worth really.  Capital is productive property.  Hence why ownership is such a cornerstone of freedom and liberty.  Owning stocks is not "capitalism".  Owning the means of production is.  

Stop making sense man, the getbig millionaires don't like your seditious talk

[MikMaq]

Most small business that fail are due to a lack planning and as I've said before...too much debt. Most businesses cannot succeed in this climate and when it comes down to paying for inventory, making payroll and general overhead, what do they do? Get a loan to help BAIL OUT what they cannot pay for, then they create even more debt with higher interest that they have to pay back and so on and so on to the point where no one will lend and then THATS when they are forced to eventually fail. If the burden of debt for that business was reduced or eliminated right from the start they can easily get through a bad economy.

That's exactly the problem. But you can't compete with people who already have tons of money, this is why progressive tax rates that actually progress into the top one percent are important. So either put restrictions of some sort on the rich or QFT. Again your smart enough prove the problem atleast admit it.

Obama for the record has some pretty good ideas and isn't this crazy socialist crap you guys get on with. That's just playing to his base(black folk  ). The reality is the guy got in without proper experience, and has no ability to stand up to those around him, meaning good ideas turn into corrupt nonsense.  If he weren't so easily swayed by the powers at be he might actually had a chance. But corruption prevails in  washington.

[Tre]

Like the wealthy are gonna take any hits, or suffer monetarily.

Truth.

I love all the idiot poor people who try to identify with the wealthy as if they're all in this together. 

[MikMaq]

Truth.

I love all the idiot poor people who try to identify with the wealthy as if they're all in this together. 

X2 they are not the good guys, and currently are spending the bulk of their money outside the country. This is where the rich and the jet set are totally different. A doc making 250k a year, will most likely spend his money locally in places like country clubs etc. These guys that have private jets don`t care where they live. They go where the actions at, and it looks like the action is starting to head to china, it`s only a matter of time before they flee.
Liberals are fucking annoying because you can`t separate the retards from the ones that make  sense. Conservatives are annoying because only 10 percent even understand the game, the other 90 percent, have bits and parts of the whole picture, with no understanding.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Funny, my bank account says otherwise

Oh I'm sure you are doing fine if not well.  You're a single 40 something year old bachelor with no kids, no wife and no financial obligations except to yourself.  In other words you have no responsbility in your life except teaching high school footballers how to push over tires and arguing with other idiot teenagers on Getbig.  What do you REALLY do to make a difference in this world or this country?  Are you going to take all your riches and go produce something?  Go farm?  Go open up a factory?  Put people to work?  No you're not.  Yet you're the same type of selfish conservative asshole that doesn't give a shit about anyone else.  As long as you "get mine" you're fine.  You don't know anything about running a REAL business.  Opening up some shitty gym or personal training service isn't running a business and produces nothing of value in an economy.  But yeah good for you!  

[Jack T. Cross]

MM, laying the hard smack down.

[MuscleMcMannus]

MM, laying the hard smack down.

And Coach just keeps coming back for more 

[Coach is Back!]

Oh I'm sure you are doing fine if not well.  You're a single 40 something year old bachelor with no kids, no wife and no financial obligations except to yourself.  In other words you have no responsbility in your life except teaching high school footballers how to push over tires and arguing with other idiot teenagers on Getbig.  What do you REALLY do to make a difference in this world or this country?  Are you going to take all your riches and go produce something?  Go farm?  Go open up a factory?  Put people to work?  No you're not.  Yet you're the same type of selfish conservative asshole that doesn't give a shit about anyone else.  As long as you "get mine" you're fine.  You don't know anything about running a REAL business.  Opening up some shitty gym or personal training service isn't running a business and produces nothing of value in an economy.  But yeah good for you!  

I'm married, I have a 14 year old son, I have two homes, son's private school, etc, etc. Business, although I don't have hundreds on employees, I do have 6. As far as contributing to this country and the world....you really have no idea of the impact of athletes as it helps keep most kids off the street instead of getting into trouble by doing NOTHING. While most PUBLIC SCHOOLS are cutting back on PE, we have after school and weekend programs. For example, we deal with six schools per month with our speed camps and although we charge for the camps, 25% of the proceeds goes back into their athletic programs as a donation and sponsorship from US. In addition to that, these particular camps we get up to 75-100 high school athletes per camp. The inner city camps sometimes more. This IN ADDITION to our regular business.

Look junior, before you go spouting off about how you perceive me, ask first, it makes you look like total dumbshit.  BTW, WTF have you done that makes you so special?

[MuscleMcMannus]

I'm married, I have a 14 year old son, I have two homes, son's private school, etc, etc. Business, although I don't have hundreds on employees, I do have 6. As far as contributing to this country and the world....you really have no idea of the impact of athletes as it helps keep most kids off the street instead of getting into trouble by doing NOTHING. While most PUBLIC SCHOOLS are cutting back on PE, we have after school and weekend programs. For example, we deal with six schools per month with our speed camps and although we charge for the camps, 25% of the proceeds goes back into their athletic programs as a donation and sponsorship from US. In addition to that, these particular camps we get up to 75-100 high school athletes per camp. The inner city camps sometimes more. This IN ADDITION to our regular business.

Look junior, before you go spouting off about how you perceive me, ask first, it makes you look like total dumbshit.  BTW, WTF have you done that makes you so special?

LMAO!  Ouch...............


So with all that responsibility why the fuck are you bantering about on getbig at 0900 in the morning genius? 

[Coach is Back!]

LMAO!  Ouch...............

You didn't answer my question.

[Coach is Back!]

LMAO!  Ouch...............


So with all that responsibility why the fuck are you bantering about on getbig at 0900 in the morning genius? 

I'm not tied down to a cubicle where I have my computer monitored. When I have time, I get a few posts out......just to piss people off.

[MuscleMcMannus]

You didn't answer my question.

I'm not the one bragging about how big my bank account is, how many houses I own..  Why aren't you out there teaching kids math  and science?  Probably because there is no money in it that's why.   Why isn't your son in public school like the kids you are trying to help have to go to?  Sounds like you're the typical conservative hypocrite.  You want to appear like some sort of do gooder but in reality you have sacrificed nothing to do what you do. and in fact it is paying you handsomely.  Would you be doing it if you couldn't make a living out of it.  Probably not.  It's like Bill and Melinda Gates giving away a few million to charity.  LOL..........

[Coach is Back!]

I'm not the one bragging about how big my bank account is, how many houses I own..  Why aren't you out there teaching kids math  and science?  Probably because there is no money in it that's why.   Why isn't your son in public school like the kids you are trying to help have to go to?  Sounds like you're the typical conservative hypocrite.  You want to appear like some sort of do gooder but in reality you have sacrificed nothing to do what you do. and in fact it is paying you handsomely.  Would you being doing it if you couldn't make a living out of it.  Probably not.  

Hey bud, you're the one who said I wasn't contributing. My son isn't in the public school it sucks and the schools I deal with verifies that all the time. The ACLU writes the laws and guidelines for PS systems out hear and makes it hard for most teachers with all the dumbass rules they write. And you being I'm sure an atheist and liberal are going to hate this....but I put my son in a Christian private school, been there since he was in the second grade. Higher standards both in academics and morals.

[Coach is Back!]

Your above post just proves how liberals think, a person works to get ahead and make a comfortable life for their families and you bash us. Here's a thought dude, get a job and quit thinking you're entitled to someone elses hard work or wealth. You're doing what that shithead wants....to depend on the government for yours and everyone elses needs.

[reppingfor20]

God you're an idiot.

you just don't understand what the government provides on a daily basis for him to even start his business.

let's start with roads to drive on.  what next coach?  do you want to pave the road to your place you built, then pave the rest so the construction workers can get their to build the place, then pave roads for customers to come?  Do you want any fire department to show up in case of a fire or a police station from keeping people from robbing your business every night?  Your as dumb as a rock sorry but your are, go to college and do yourself a favor.  Did the FCC approve and allow his station to start, yes, is he self made, no.  He had an idea, and our government with their generous opportunities they allow with people tax dollars made it possible, now with less tax dollars there isn't much left for people to start their own business like this BET guy, who is NOT self made.

[Coach is Back!]

you just don't understand what the government provides on a daily basis for him to even start his business.

let's start with roads to drive on.  what next coach?  do you want to pave the road to your place you built, then pave the rest so the construction workers can get their to build the place, then pave roads for customers to come?  Do you want any fire department to show up in case of a fire or a police station from keeping people from robbing your business every night?  Your as dumb as a rock sorry but your are, go to college and do yourself a favor.  Did the FCC approve and allow his station to start, yes, is he self made, no.  He had an idea, and our government with their generous opportunities they allow with people tax dollars made it possible, now with less tax dollars there isn't much left for people to start their own business like this BET guy, who is NOT self made.

Hey dipshit...did you EVER hear me say that all government was bad? But they do have a way to fuck up a good thing everytime.

As for not being self made? Was it not HIS idea for BET? or did the government create that as well?

[MuscleMcMannus]

Your above post just proves how liberals think, a person works to get ahead and make a comfortable life for their families and you bash us. Here's a thought dude, get a job and quit thinking you're entitled to someone elses hard work or wealth. You're doing what that shithead wants....to depend on the government for yours and everyone elses needs.

I guess everyone who doesn't agree with you and your conservative right wing ideology is a liberal?  And everyone that's not a Christian is an atheist?  LMAO!  Boy you sure do you have some great critical thinking skills there chief.  You don't get it do you?  I mean you really don't get it...............first off I love you Christians...........I'm sure Jesus would love that you have two houses, a fat bank account, and put your kid through private school right?  I mean I'm sure that's exactly how Jesus would have lived his life?  LMAO! 

No one is saying you aren't entitled to the fruits of your labor although I would question just how much of a Christian you really are.  I think Jesus would say if you don't NEED two homes  you should give one to someone less fortunate or use that money to help feed the poor.  But Christians are some of the biggest hypocrites in society...........as are most religious people. 

Anyways.  this country rides together and it dies together.  You think because your kid is in private school he's going to be insulated from the world.  How's he going to deal with all those kids that grow up to be adults in public education that venture out into the world?  What do you think it's going to be like in college?  Oh wait you'll probably send him to a private bible college too right?  LMAO!

And like I said do you really think sports and athletics is going to make a damn bit of difference for some kid?  I mean let's be real how many kids do you work with that are actually going to make money from being an athlete?  Are they all going to get college scholarhips and be multimillionaire pro athletes?  There are plenty of ways to keep kids off the streets.  It's like all these stupid ass OC parents that think johnny is going to be the next Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan or Drew Breeze.......meanwhile little Johnny is spending all his time energy at baseball games and football games flunking out of grade school math while little Sing Lee and Pardesh Pinjabi are spending their weekends at Kumon learning centers  doing advanced calculus.   

[Tre]

I guess everyone who doesn't agree with you and your conservative right wing ideology is a liberal?  And everyone that's not a Christian is an atheist?  LMAO!  Boy you sure do you have some great critical thinking skills there chief.  You don't get it do you?  I mean you really don't get it...............first off I love you Christians...........I'm sure Jesus would love that you have two houses, a fat bank account, and put your kid through private school right?  I mean I'm sure that's exactly how Jesus would have lived his life?  LMAO! 

No one is saying you aren't entitled to the fruits of your labor although I would question just how much of a Christian you really are.  I think Jesus would say if you don't NEED two homes  you should give one to someone less fortunate or use that money to help feed the poor.  But Christians are some of the biggest hypocrites in society...........as are most religious people. 

Anyways.  this country rides together and it dies together.  You think because your kid is in private school he's going to be insulated from the world.  How's he going to deal with all those kids that grow up to be adults in public education that venture out into the world?  What do you think it's going to be like in college?  Oh wait you'll probably send him to a private bible college too right?  LMAO!

And like I said do you really think sports and athletics is going to make a damn bit of difference for some kid?  I mean let's be real how many kids do you work with that are actually going to make money from being an athlete?  Are they all going to get college scholarhips and be multimillionaire pro athletes?  There are plenty of ways to keep kids off the streets.  It's like all these stupid ass OC parents that think johnny is going to be the next Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan or Drew Breeze.......meanwhile little Johnny is spending all his time energy at baseball games and football games flunking out of grade school math while little Sing Lee and Pardesh Pinjabi are spending their weekends at Kumon learning centers  doing advanced calculus.   

Post Of The Year Nominee.

[lovemonkey]

MuscleMcMannus used to be annoying but he is definitely growing on me. 

[Coach is Back!]

Wow MM, you're REALLY missing the point. Damn!

[MuscleMcMannus]

Wow MM, you're REALLY missing the point. Damn!

No I undertand your point.  I just think there is a significant amount of hypocrisy in it. We as a nation need to invest in EVERYONE at all socioeconomic levels.  We will rise as a nation or we will fall as a nation.  I agree government is a huge problem.  But public education has been a cornerstone of this country for a long time and rightfully so.  The problem is like everything else it's become fucked up with special interest and top heavy bureaucracy.  Just like healthcare.  So what do the rich do?  They put their kids in private school....fuck everyone else.  When in reality it's the fucking republicans AND democrats who have been screwing over public education.  And don't you live in OC anyways?  Last time I looked around there weren't too many "ghettos" and the OC has some of the best schools in the nation.  The biggest reason I'd want my kid in private school is because of all the fucking mexicans who can't speak English.  But I didn't grow up in CA public schools I grew up in Midwest public school where we had to deal with inner city blacks being bussed into the suburbs because all the city schools were so shitty.  But you  know what I managed to be a 3.8 student athlete and go on to college and become a productive tax paying member of society anyways and I wouldn't have traded my public education experience anyday for a sheltered, elitist private school education. 

[tu_holmes]

Why aren't you out there teaching kids math  and science?

Come on... everyone knows getbiggers don't know math or science.

[Dorian01]

evolution is a pretty good theory, bro. let me think on it

[reppingfor20]

Hey dipshit...did you EVER hear me say that all government was bad? But they do have a way to fuck up a good thing everytime.

As for not being self made? Was it not HIS idea for BET? or did the government create that as well?

the argument was that he was not completely self made, stop back peddling.

[Tre]

the argument was that he was not completely self made, stop back peddling.

Just so we're clear: Robert Johnson didn't do shit to EARN his stature in the public eye.