Example of a good natural, 7-8 years of training maybe more

[njflex]

Here I am at 18 years old and 150 lbs below.  Had been training since I was around 13.  Of course at that age training doesnt do much as you can see by my pic lol. 


Here's me at around 20-21 years old and 220 lbs below.  Pretty fat, but gained a lot of strength/muscle from bulking.


After dieting down for the very first time.  It was a learning experience.  22 years old and 170 lbs below.


At 23 yrs old - 205 lbs picture below


At 24 yrs old - 215-220 lbs picture below


At 25 yrs old - 197 lbs picture below


At 26 yrs old - 175 lbs picture below

u have good build but stay leaner u look better ,when u smooth out you actually smaller.esp natural/clean i'm sure u know that by now.

[njflex]

yea, i would agree.  in clothes i looked pretty big when I was heavier, but my face looked so fat it disgusted me lol.  This past year I've just been dieting off and on to stay lean so that I look good.  I'd like to bulk and put on some more muscle, but the trade-off of looking like a troll for 6months to a year while bulking just isnt worth it to me right now.

again that's the tradeoff,if ur on something u could afford to smooth/fill out cause you looked jakked up staring in the mirror no pump.like i said your on the right track train ,eat,repeat .don't chase the unreachable.

[BIG ACH]

Stavios - I mean this in the most NO HOMO way ever....   You are one hot man meat! LOL

I hope you wine and dine on a ton of pussy!!!!



And I can't believe that in 2004 I was bigger than you in 2005!  

[Schmoff]

Here I am at 18 years old and 150 lbs below.  Had been training since I was around 13.  Of course at that age training doesnt do much as you can see by my pic lol. 


Here's me at around 20-21 years old and 220 lbs below.  Pretty fat, but gained a lot of strength/muscle from bulking.


After dieting down for the very first time.  It was a learning experience.  22 years old and 170 lbs below.


At 23 yrs old - 205 lbs picture below


At 24 yrs old - 215-220 lbs picture below


At 25 yrs old - 197 lbs picture below


At 26 yrs old - 175 lbs picture below

how tall are you?

how long did it take you to bulk from 200 to 220?

[BIG ACH]

im 5'9.  and not long.  i can gain weight very easily because ive learned how to eat.  i get fat along the way though.  id say i normally gain 10 lbs a month when bulking until i hit 220.  to get over 220 for me is difficult without turning into a real fatty.

You look awesome man!  Great job!  Keep up the good work!   

[hazbin]

me at 15. gh better not say i'm on anything here. this was 1979

[RC Money]

me at 15. gh better not say i'm on anything here. this was 1979

Bro clearly you were heavy on the hormones and had eggs and bacon that morning!

[Super Natural]

after 10 years (158 pounds @ 5,7)

[biff]

Here I am at 18 years old and 150 lbs below.  Had been training since I was around 13.  Of course at that age training doesnt do much as you can see by my pic lol.  .....

good build,  you certainly leaned out from the chubby 220 when you were 20 to the pic at 26 weighing 175. about 5 pounds in 6 years, possibly slightly higher bf%.

this is what i mean, and again it somewhat follows my own personal experience. work out natural and make good gains late teens early 20's (even someone with bad genetics can do this). hit a wall in which muscle/strength gains come to near complete halt. then lean out, which is the idea, show what you have, but in a way it fools us into thinking we are still making gains/progress, when in fact our muscluar gains have essentially stopped.

looks like the rough pound per year of lean weight is what the natural can expect, once the intiital growth spurt is passed.

[Super Natural]

looks like the rough pound per year of lean weight is what the natural can expect, once the intiital growth spurt is passed.

If that, once you've tapped out. I'm still the same weight now (158 pounds) when I compete now, 10 years later! (So I guess it took me 10 years to reach my genetic limit as far as contest weight goes) and in the following 10 years I didn't built much new muscle tissue weight beyond that (despite eating consistently, lifting heavier and more intensly) I'm talking real dry contest muscle tissue come contest time (not bloat - water,fat,glycogen) I've bulked up 20 pounds over my stage weight, but diet down again I'm still the same Guys that use juice seem to gain more muscle tissue consistly every year.  But weight is not the only measure of improvement IMO.. I'm significantly better at that same weight now. So improvement/maturity for me comes with added detail, condition, hardness. Not sure if that makes sense .I'm 38 now to get bigger and put on more contest muscle at this stage I'd have to use gas...

[True]

for example, same guy again on the left

on the right, I don't know who that is but he is on some roids whatever they are

skin is just tighter around the muscle, the 2 are probably the same bodyfat

You have got to be kidding me!! Talk about having low expetations. No wonder you do steroids, haha!

[Super Natural]

Here's bulked up to 180 pounds  ...

[Stavios]

Stavios - I mean this in the most NO HOMO way ever....   You are one hot man meat! LOL

I hope you wine and dine on a ton of pussy!!!!



And I can't believe that in 2004 I was bigger than you in 2005!  

haha yes !! 

but I was 17 years old 

[njflex]

Here's bulked up to 180 pounds  ...

u look great man,,,,u have to really be into it knowing that other than getting some slightly better condition than you have already achieved which again superb job ,is that size wise your done other than really fattening up which by now would be a waste.

[BIG ACH]

haha yes !! 

but I was 17 years old 

OK yeah I was 21 then! LOL  epic fail on my part!

[Stavios]

OK yeah I was 21 then! LOL  epic fail on my part!

I was 21 on the pic on the right !

but you didn't fail, you look awesome and sexy (no homo)

[njflex]

I was 21 on the pic on the right !

but you didn't fail, you look awesome and sexy (no homo)

get a room u too.

[Stavios]

get a room u too.

[Howard]

yea, i would agree.  in clothes i looked pretty big when I was heavier, but my face looked so fat it disgusted me lol.  This past year I've just been dieting off and on to stay lean so that I look good.  I'd like to bulk and put on some more muscle, but the trade-off of looking like a troll for 6months to a year while bulking just isnt worth it to me right now.

Great physique and you look healthy .
After seeing you , it might drive to take the dounts out of my pirhole and lose some fat myself.
I honestly think YOUR kind of bodybuilding and physique is what most here should strive for.

[the trainer]

5'10, about 180 lbs

lean but not that lean

impressive physique in the gym for the average gym members, women compliment him on his size
other dude compliment him on his ability to get compliments from women  

nobody says he is huge, everybody says he is in good shape and people who start working out have him as a goal

most importantly, Stavios doesn't call bullshit when he tells me he takes nothing but proteins and creatine


that = natural physique

put that in your blunt and smoke it

If I looked like that after 7 years of training I would quit bodybuilding it would not be worth the time and effort.

[tbombz]

If I looked like that after 7 years of training I would quit bodybuilding it would not be worth the time and effort.

[Stavios]

If I looked like that after 7 years of training I would quit bodybuilding it would not be worth the time and effort.

you guys see a picture of a natural standing relaxed at the beach, not flexing at all, and you are expecting to see the second comming of Skip Lacour 

the picture I posted is how most natural look after a few years of training

[The True Adonis]

Stavios getting owned by naturals on this thread. 

[Stavios]

Stavios getting owned by naturals on this thread. 

Yes Stavios is "getting owned" by "naturals" on this thread 

[tbombz]

you guys see a picture of a natural standing relaxed at the beach, not flexing at all, and you are expecting to see the second comming of Skip Lacour 

the picture I posted is how most natural look after a few years of training

they have an extremely delusional perception of how muscular they are, like most naturals who are dedicated to bodybuilding. they flex in the mirror and see the muscles are visible and just assume that means they look big.