Herman Cain to Occupy Wall Street protesters: If you're not rich 'blame yourself

[Coach is Back!]

I'm working on it...but I'm very comfortable and never had to rely on the government for ANYTHING.

[reppingfor20]

I'm working on it...but I'm very comfortable and never had to rely on the government for ANYTHING.

except when you hit the road after leaving your driveway in the mourning

[MikMaq]

You'd rather blame others for your failures while Cain went out and bettered his position in life. Feel free to carry on with your whining.

Whereas Cain beat stage IV cancer, methinks you'd roll over and die.

What the fuck are you even talking about
I'm so sick of politics on this fucking site your like a bunch of women. You guys don't even talk about the issues in a meaningful way, you just try to get into guessing games on how the other party feels.

The right wing shit in america is such a fucking joke. Again I am right wing in theory, but the reality is America is in a fucking mess. People like cain are so full of shit. There's no valid reason for them to exist, there just a plague on society as the nobels were in europe.

Nothing has changed your odds of becoming a king in 1500 was much higher than becoming a billionaire today (FACT) deal with it.


These guys don't pay no where near enough taxes, to rationalize their wealth in some pseudo theory of economics is complete beta thinking. They have amazing amount of power, that you keyboard warriors couldn't even dream of.

The rich in this economy function as a monopoly, which is beyond fucked. I don't even give a shit about the rich nor do I care if a guy making 250k a year pay taxes.

However I do care if the mechanisms of the free market are working, and they aren't. People claiming to be champions of free markets while pumping billions of dollars into the military are the worst kind of bullshiters.

[Coach is Back!]

Next to benny you have to be one of the mother fuckers on here. How about you get your lazy ass out of the basement of your parents house and get a job as a paperbo....girl or something?

[MikMaq]

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[Coach is Back!]

Sorry, I can't quote on here. I meant repping20. Sorry dude.

[bike nut]

Free market?

The Chinese openly depress the value of their currency to cause a trade imbalance that acts in their favor and brings the U.S. economy to a halt...and the nutless pretender in the oval office is too fucking scared to do anything about it. Now he owes so much debt to China and the middle east he's a fiscal lame duck. He can't lead, isn't smart enough to create, and is too egotistical to get out of the fucking way. In 4 years the Obama Administration will single-handedly collapse the middle-class in America.

So all you government dependent Libs with your bullshit "arts" degrees beware - I'll be fucking your wife or daughter so she can earn gas money.

[KrAng]

Free market?

The Chinese openly depress the value of their currency to cause a trade imbalance that acts in their favor and brings the U.S. economy to a halt...and the nutless pretender in the oval office is too fucking scared to do anything about it. Now he owes so much debt to China and the middle east he's a fiscal lame duck. He can't lead, isn't smart enough to create, and is too egotistical to get out of the fucking way. In 4 years the Obama Administration will single-handedly collapse the middle-class in America.

So all you government dependent Libs with your bullshit "arts" degrees beware - I'll be fucking your wife or daughter so she can earn gas money.

Guess who is the biggest opponent of not passing a bill to penalize china?  Boehner

[delta9mda]

In quebec, poor pay something like 15% and you pay 25% when you make 75k per year or more

it pisses me off.

the guy who makes more WILL PAY MORE since the % of his income will be higher !

what is it like in the USA ?

do you guys have a chart somewhere ?

its starts low and once you are making 5 mil or more you pay 29+%. a lot of people make little so they pay little but end up getting more back than they paid. basically they are not paying taxes like this.

the fucking rich pay more than their "fair share".

[Wiggs]

I'm not anti-capitalism but I am anti-wallstreet, anti big banks and anti-big corps...why?  Because it's the banks, wallstreet and corps that run and manipulate the system for their well being.

What Cain said was correct...With the endless opportunities in this great country.  You have no one to blame but yourself, if you're not rich...That goes for EVERYONE.

[garebear]

The world needs ditch diggers too.

Ha.

Is that from Caddyshack?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

People generally make what they deserve.  

That would be true except that everyone in life doesn't get a running start.  Some people get a silver spoon others get no spoons at all, and then some folks never even get a chance to eat.  The idea that if you're not rich, then you are to blame is ridiculous.   

[Wiggs]

That would be true except that everyone in life doesn't get a running start.  Some people get a silver spoon others get no spoons at all, and then some folks never even get a chance to eat.  The idea that if you're not rich, then you are to blame is ridiculous.   

Dude, very little get a silverspoon...This question is not directed just to you but everyone else here that believes the same.  Who is to blame if you aren't rich?...Hell it doesnt even have to be rich, just well off...Lets say 500k annually gross.

[KrAng]

Dude, very little get a silverspoon...This question is not directed just to you but everyone else here that believes the same.  Who is to blame if you aren't rich?...Hell it doesnt even have to be rich, just well off...Lets say 500k annually gross.

And how much do you make a year?

[Wiggs]

And how much do you make a year?

im unemployed...but nice try...what is your point?

[SF1900]

Dude, very little get a silverspoon...This question is not directed just to you but everyone else here that believes the same.  Who is to blame if you aren't rich?...Hell it doesnt even have to be rich, just well off...Lets say 500k annually gross.

Wiggs, you really think 500K is just well off?   A good neurosurgeons makes 500K a year. That is more than just being "well off" I mean the average american makes about 50k. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Dude, very little get a silverspoon...This question is not directed just to you but everyone else here that believes the same.  Who is to blame if you aren't rich?...Hell it doesnt even have to be rich, just well off...Lets say 500k annually gross.

True, but for Herman Cain to make a statement like that is simply insensitive and a clear example of someone who is out of touch with society.  Some people are born so far down in the hole that they never have a chance to climb out.

[Wiggs]

Wiggs, you really think 500K is just well off?   A good neurosurgeons makes 500K a year. That is more than just being "well off"

That is not rich man...Yes, I think it's just well off. To me, rich is 1,000,000 annually net.

Since there is no official definition rich it can't really be defined.  To me, 500k gross is not rich but well off...

[Wiggs]

True, but for Herman Cain to make a statement like that is simply insensitive and a clear example of someone who is out of touch with society.  Some people are born so far down in the hole that they never have a chance to climb out.

I can agree with that.  Not very presidential.

[Coach is Back!]

Bullshit Vince, I went from practically nothing as a single father with no monetary help from anyone especially from the government. I'm only one person, there are millions more just like me. So don't give me that BS.

[SF1900]

That is not rich man...Yes, I think it's just well off. To me, rich is 1,000,000 annually net.

Since there is no official definition rich it can't really be defined.  To me, 500k gross is not rich but well off...

Wiggs, if you're a good neurosurgeon in a manhattan hospital and you've been working for 10+ years, you will probably have well over a million dollars. So that really is a poor example, since a lot of people who make 500K a year probably wind up becoming millionaires.

[KrAng]

That is not rich man...Yes, I think it's just well off. To me, rich is 1,000,000 annually net.

Since there is no official definition rich it can't really be defined.  To me, 500k gross is not rich but well off...

My point is that 500k is VERY well off..... And for someone to demean some people who work very hard and make 50k is not cool

[Wiggs]

My point is that 500k is VERY well off..... And for someone to demean some people who work very hard and make 50k is not cool

Agreed.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Bullshit Vince, I went from practically nothing as a single father with no monetary help from anyone especially from the government. I'm only one person, there are millions more just like me. So don't give me that BS.

Well, try this on for size.

Unless you grew up in the ghetto, had 60k dollars in debt when you were 2 years old because your family used your social security number to run up credit cards to where you can't get a college loan much less anything else despite the grades and the high SAT score.  

I wish I started out with absolutely nothing because the number 0 is still higher than -60,000 dollars.  Now I'm done ok for myself despite the setbacks but understand one thing, Joe....you never know what situation or problems a person has so you simply can't make a broad statement that "its your fault that you're not rich".  Lots of people get the shaft in life through no fault of their own.


Now, I know that everyone in life isn't suppose to be rich or middle class but being poor doesn't mean that you did something wrong in life. 

[Coach is Back!]

It doesn't have be like that forever, when I was going back and forth to court fighting for custody of my son, at the end the attorney bill was over $100k. It took me 5 years to pay it off all while working on my business. Everyone has unique circumstances but that doesn't mean they can't make something of themselves and pull their asses out of a tough situation and succeed. My ex-wife is just like the people I discribe, she chooses how she wants to live...at 45, she's on UE and doesn't want to hold a job and like many I discribe, thinks she's "owed" something and doesn't think she should pay child support...so she just doesn't work. She has a BA in human resourses and the potential to make over $100k, but she's LAZY and again, feels she shouldn't have to do anything because "that's what the government is for" I've given her plenty of suggestions to start her own business creating resumes for people...she's great at that but its one excuse after another.....again, LAZY!