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« Reply #250 on: May 15, 2012, 05:43:04 AM »

Thanks for posting the stuff about biotin lyquid. If you wouldnt have posted that I would probably never have known what caused this.

Starting about 5-6 days ago, I started taking Biotin 1000 mcg before bed everyday. The last 4 days my face, forehead, and scalp has EXPLODED in oilyness and I guess this caused an increased immune reaction because my skin has started to flake on my forehead and majorly on my scalp coupled with extreme redness. I think the inflammation has caused some excess hair loss because on kind of the side of my head, the hairs are much more brittle and wiry than they ever were.

I will be discontinuing biotin today and hope it goes back to normal, I'm pretty sure it will. I will let you know how things are in a few days.
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« Reply #251 on: May 15, 2012, 12:50:23 PM »

Would splitting open a saw palmetto gel capsule and spreading it on the scalp have any benefits?
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« Reply #252 on: May 15, 2012, 02:02:33 PM »


if you guys google replicel you will see that they have gotten some very promising results from their research.

basicaly they pull out these cells from the back of you head called dermal sheath cup cells. they then proliferate them in a petri dish and deposit them under you skin in the scalp.

they just completed one clinical trial and are due to start the next this year. however it will probably be a few years until it gets made public.

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« Reply #253 on: May 18, 2012, 06:53:53 AM »

well this sucks. ive been on NPP and EQ for about a week now and im shedding like crazy. no idea why. its as bad as when i was on tren.

im using 800mg EQ and 700mg NPP, 250mg test.

im also using coconut oil+emu oil at night followed by nizoral 2%. also using minoxidil 2x per day. anybody know what the fuck is going on?
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« Reply #254 on: May 18, 2012, 11:13:43 AM »

well this sucks. ive been on NPP and EQ for about a week now and im shedding like crazy. no idea why. its as bad as when i was on tren.

im using 800mg EQ and 700mg NPP, 250mg test.

im also using coconut oil+emu oil at night followed by nizoral 2%. also using minoxidil 2x per day. anybody know what the fuck is going on?

That sucks dude...I know its VERY frustrating. Lyquid is the expert with this stuff and he's mentioned telogen efflosomething or other which will cause you to shed from all over your head not only the pattern balding areas. Is it coming out from the sides and the back as well ?? also, are there little white bulbs attached to the hair that's coming out??



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« Reply #255 on: May 18, 2012, 12:04:43 PM »

yea theres white bulbs but its not from the sides and back. ive got diffuse patterened alopecia so im shedding from everywhere that can be prone to MPB.
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« Reply #256 on: May 18, 2012, 01:55:19 PM »

well this sucks. ive been on NPP and EQ for about a week now and im shedding like crazy. no idea why. its as bad as when i was on tren.

im using 800mg EQ and 700mg NPP, 250mg test.

im also using coconut oil+emu oil at night followed by nizoral 2%. also using minoxidil 2x per day. anybody know what the fuck is going on?

that's a high dosage, i'm not surprised.
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« Reply #257 on: May 18, 2012, 03:06:31 PM »

Make sure ur takin a zinc supplement 50 mg per day and b complex. And I dont think it would be the npp. I know its a decent dose but ive run a dose very close to that of deca along with 600 mg EQ and had no shedding. Does every hair (or most) that is falling out have kerratin attached to it? If so you are probably going through a hair cycle (TE). Maybe something induced it. NPP is supposed to be very gentle on the hair providing ur not takin finasteride.

When I was on high dose deca and eq and low dose test I had (and still have) nice thick hair and only about 5 hairs come out per shower.
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« Reply #258 on: May 18, 2012, 05:55:47 PM »

well this sucks. ive been on NPP and EQ for about a week now and im shedding like crazy. no idea why. its as bad as when i was on tren.

im using 800mg EQ and 700mg NPP, 250mg test.

im also using coconut oil+emu oil at night followed by nizoral 2%. also using minoxidil 2x per day. anybody know what the fuck is going on?
I dont even know what npp is but it looks like you may be going overkill with the topicals. i would drop the minoxidal stick with leaving the nizoral on all night alternate nights with emu. the minoxidal and the nizoral is cooking thye fuck out of your scalp. nothing would grow in that dessert.
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« Reply #259 on: May 27, 2012, 08:25:38 PM »

Anyone use that shampoo by "need to build muscle"? Just looking for non biased info...
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« Reply #260 on: May 30, 2012, 03:02:18 AM »

Ritch:

I tried finding the product u r talking about but couldnt. If u would post a link I could try it out and let u know.
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« Reply #261 on: May 30, 2012, 04:25:27 AM »

Ritch:

I tried finding the product u r talking about but couldnt. If u would post a link I could try it out and let u know.

http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-Shampoo-7oz-Mocha-scented-p85.html this one I think he's talkin about.


is it true that you're baldness comes from your grandpa on your moms side or is that a wives-tale?
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« Reply #262 on: May 30, 2012, 08:18:49 AM »

http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-Shampoo-7oz-Mocha-scented-p85.html this one I think he's talkin about.


is it true that you're baldness comes from your grandpa on your moms side or is that a wives-tale?
could be little of both ,u might see 3 brothers 1 bald the other 2 good hair go figure,,,,
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« Reply #263 on: May 30, 2012, 08:27:36 AM »

is it true that you're baldness comes from your grandpa on your moms side or is that a wives-tale?

I've heard this a lot, but not sure it's true.

My brother is 4 years older and about 60% bald, he's never touched AAS in his life.  I have a slight recending hairline, but otherwise a full head of thick hair and I've been using a ton of AAS for over 10 years off and on.


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« Reply #264 on: May 30, 2012, 08:50:13 AM »

http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-Shampoo-7oz-Mocha-scented-p85.html this one I think he's talkin about.


is it true that you're baldness comes from your grandpa on your moms side or is that a wives-tale?

It used to be strongly believed that mpb was inherited from the mothers side but now scientists are saying it is not chromosome dependent and mpb can come from either side of the family. I personally tend to believe if you have a parent whose family has very strong hair genetics, like my mothers family for example (all her brothers and father have a full head of hair), it helps negate the hair genes from the other parent. On my fathers side however, all his uncles and brothers went bald early and so did he. But my mothers side has perfect hair genetics. The fact that I still have all my hair says I probably have more of my mothers genes than my fathers.
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« Reply #265 on: May 30, 2012, 05:22:37 PM »

keeping your hair healthy is so important for women. If your hair is thinning she will get the signal that your semen is thinning as well.
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« Reply #266 on: May 30, 2012, 05:25:10 PM »

Ritch:

I tried finding the product u r talking about but couldnt. If u would post a link I could try it out and let u know.

Dart posted the correct link, thanks!
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« Reply #267 on: May 30, 2012, 06:08:02 PM »

I was just thinking about the mechanisms of action that causes hair loss, and obviously DHT is the culprit, we all know this. But if DHT is the culprit, why do people experience hair loss from things like Tren? A 19 nor like deca, just more androgenic...?

I have been thinking of doing an experiment when my next cycle starts. I'll run test e at 125 mg per week, and tren at around 400 mg. This is my first time using tren and my prediction is I shouldn't experience much if any hair loss because the test dose is low enough to not have very much convert to DHT, yet high enough to shut down endo production. If I lose significant amounts of hair then DHT is not the sole cause of hair loss.
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« Reply #268 on: May 30, 2012, 11:27:42 PM »

http://www.worldofhair.com/geo/africa.htm

Do Omega-3 Vitamins Help with Hair Growth?
Do omega-3 helps in hair growth? Actually, there is no study conducted on omega-3ís beneficial effects for hair growth. But since one needs to be healthy in order to have that amazing healthy hair growth, it can be said that omega-3 helps in hair growth.
Omega-3 is needed or at least a great factor in hair growth since our hair is a hardened protein. Being that, it needs enough supplements of vitamins and other nutrients for a healthier and more beautiful hair growth. Many hair specialists also recommend taking of vitamin-rich food while treating hair to grow faster than the average. Though no certain study proved the efficacy of omega-3 in hair growth, being a good vitamin makes it a necessary nutrient for a better hair.
There is, however, one scientific study in Japan conducted to learn about the effects of fatty acids in fish oil to hair loss. The study concluded that having rich fatty acid intake can help prevent hair loss. Thus, having sufficient fatty acid can help a lot in hair growth. One of the best sources of fatty acid is the omega-3 found in emu oil shampoo.
Moreover, omega-3 has certain nutrients that are found to be helpful in hair growth. These are the alpha linolic acid, the docosahexaenioc acid, and the ecoesapentoionc acid. With these contents, omega-3 can also be considered as a helpful nutrient in hair growth.
There are also some hair specialists that recommend the inclusion of omega-3 in a diet if one is experiencing hair loss. They say that omega-3 is helpful in preventing more hair loss.
Although there is still a debate whether omega-3 helps in hair growth with vitamins, it is still considered by many nutritionists as an essential part for healthy living. Though no certain study was done in the relation of omega-3 and hair growth, there are still studies about this nutrient relating to heart and brain. Omega-3 is a proven element helpful for a healthier heart and brain. It even improves intelligence quotient. So, even if omega-3 does not directly improve hair growth, it can still be helpful to anyone.
If you are interested on omega-3 and its good effects to hair, heart, and brain, better take foods with rich omega-3. Eat more salmon, sardines, halibut, albacore, herring, trout, walnut, canola oil, and flaxseed oil. Omega-3 is also found in shrimps, light chunk tuna, clams, cod, spinach, and catfish.
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« Reply #269 on: May 30, 2012, 11:34:28 PM »

Anyone use that shampoo by "need to build muscle"? Just looking for non biased info...

I had a look at it and although the ingredients are awesome for wanting a healthy scalp and hair, as far as hair loss prevention and regrowth it won't do anything noticeable since there is no ketoconazole. DHT has to be addressed and ketoconazole is the only ingredient proven to topically inhibit dht.

So youd be much better off trying out regenepure dr. it has ketoconazole (albeit only 1%) and other awesome stuff like jojoba, emu oil, aloe vera, saw palmetto, b vitamins, zinc, etc. I'm going to order it tomorrow as I finally have some extra cash.

Ill start on a protocol and let u guys know how things go.
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« Reply #270 on: May 30, 2012, 11:45:04 PM »

I had a look at it and although the ingredients are awesome for wanting a healthy scalp and hair, as far as hair loss prevention and regrowth it won't do anything noticeable since there is no ketoconazole. DHT has to be addressed and ketoconazole is the only ingredient proven to topically inhibit dht.

So youd be much better off trying out regenepure dr. it has ketoconazole (albeit only 1%) and other awesome stuff like jojoba, emu oil, aloe vera, saw palmetto, b vitamins, zinc, etc. I'm going to order it tomorrow as I finally have some extra cash.

Ill start on a protocol and let u guys know how things go.

Cool, keep us posted. I have pharma finaseride and use nizoral ed. Not losing any more so I'm happy.
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« Reply #271 on: May 31, 2012, 08:46:43 PM »

I was just thinking about the mechanisms of action that causes hair loss, and obviously DHT is the culprit, we all know this. But if DHT is the culprit, why do people experience hair loss from things like Tren? A 19 nor like deca, just more androgenic...?

I have been thinking of doing an experiment when my next cycle starts. I'll run test e at 125 mg per week, and tren at around 400 mg. This is my first time using tren and my prediction is I shouldn't experience much if any hair loss because the test dose is low enough to not have very much convert to DHT, yet high enough to shut down endo production. If I lose significant amounts of hair then DHT is not the sole cause of hair loss.
All androgens can cause hair loss to. That's why tren and winny wreck havoc gotta keep that in mind. It's just so confusing
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« Reply #272 on: May 31, 2012, 09:05:47 PM »

I was using Nizoral for several months. I stopped using it because they don't sell it any longer in stores. It's been several months since I stopped using it and I have not noticed any difference. I was just using it as a preventative not because I am balding. I also take propecia, 1mg every third day, also as a preventative measure. If I stop I don't think it would make a difference, not sure. But for now ill continue to use it.
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« Reply #273 on: June 12, 2012, 04:55:56 PM »

Surely someone has made this comment but just in case nobody: get proscar 5mg (health insurance will pay it) and use 1/5th every day. same as propecia.

ALso consider hair transplants. They have amazing results these days and are not as expensive any more.
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« Reply #274 on: June 12, 2012, 10:21:57 PM »

Is a hair transplant where they take follicle from other parts of the head not affected by mpb and put them where you lost the hair? Woukdnt this take forever since you have 100s of thousands of follicles and would they be immune to dht?
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