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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2011, 10:30:23 PM »
Dorian.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2011, 11:06:38 PM »
  You know who wins with this thread? Trolls. You know who loses? Dorian and Ronnie. Both...

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2011, 11:12:20 PM »
  You know who wins with this thread? Trolls. You know who loses? Dorian and Ronnie. Both...

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2011, 09:13:40 AM »
in all fairness, dorian only looked this full in this show, in all olympias he looked very flat IMO while Ronnie after 98 always looked like that or even better.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2011, 09:23:11 AM »


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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2011, 01:17:39 PM »
ron at 247 would look small next to 255-260 pound Yates (who would be in better condition too).

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2011, 03:01:04 PM »
ron at 247 would look small next to 255-260 pound Yates (who would be in better condition too).

too bad there are numerous quotes from people that disagree

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

there's also a quote from Dorian about how numbers on a scale mean nothing; what matters is how big you look on stage

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2011, 03:10:29 PM »
ron at 247 would look small next to 255-260 pound Yates (who would be in better condition too).

Dorian with no gut could do the 202 show.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2011, 03:12:10 PM »
too bad there are numerous quotes from people that disagree

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

there's also a quote from Dorian about how numbers on a scale mean nothing; what matters is how big you look on stage


I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.


Ronnie at 247lbs would look like a tiny-tit next to Yates  ;)

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2011, 03:12:48 PM »
Dorian with no gut could do the 202 show.

That was actually funny  ;D

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2011, 03:13:37 PM »
too bad there are numerous quotes from people that disagree

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

there's also a quote from Dorian about how numbers on a scale mean nothing; what matters is how big you look on stage

Dexter Jackson = shittalker and shitty mr olympia.
John Hansen = "mr natural" LOL never heard of this buffoon in my life.

no one gives a fuck about their shit opinions.

Yates is King.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2011, 03:16:41 PM »
Dorian at 245 lbs looked smaller than Haney, and Ronnie at 247 lbs would make Haney look small

"Orlando, Florida, was the site of the 1991 Mr. Olympia . Haney was going for eight in a row, but for the first time he was up against a man who was the same height (5'11") and weight (245 pounds) in Dorian Yates"

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/3/

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2011, 03:18:20 PM »
Dorian at 245 lbs looked smaller than Haney, and Ronnie at 247 lbs would make Haney look small

"Orlando, Florida, was the site of the 1991 Mr. Olympia . Haney was going for eight in a row, but for the first time he was up against a man who was the same height (5'11") and weight (245 pounds) in Dorian Yates"

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/3/

Opppsssssss Dorian was 239lbs in 1991 and Haney was 250  ;)

Quote from John Balik, commenting on the 96 O:

  "Dorian Yates looked absolutely fantastic. He was so freaking dense and so freaking ripped and dry, that he actually looked bigger than all the 280 lbs competitors, even though he tipped the scales at 255 lbs."


We can do this all day , Dorian would make Ronnie at his best 1998/2001 SMALL and soft and mis-matched

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2011, 03:21:07 PM »
Opppsssssss Dorian was 239lbs in 1991 and Haney was 250

lol, so you think you know more than the IFBB about bodybuilding? Why don't you e-mail them to tell them they're wrong?

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2011, 03:21:11 PM »
Granted neither are at their best but you get the idea  ;D

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2011, 03:23:04 PM »
Opppsssssss Dorian was 239lbs in 1991 and Haney was 250  ;)

Quote from John Balik, commenting on the 96 O:

  "Dorian Yates looked absolutely fantastic. He was so freaking dense and so freaking ripped and dry, that he actually looked bigger than all the 280 lbs competitors, even though he tipped the scales at 255 lbs."


We can do this all day , Dorian would make Ronnie at his best 1998/2001 SMALL and soft and mis-matched
another great pic.  pics from that 93 photoshoot are in the top10 bodybuilding pictures of all time.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2011, 03:24:32 PM »
lol, so you think you know more than the IFBB about bodybuilding? Why don't you e-mail them to tell them they're wrong?

Says the guy who claims McGough is wrong when he says Ronnie was never harder or drier than Dorian?  ::) and yes I know more because I have Dorian's book and Haney's book , they both give their weights for that contest , and I have multiple magazines with coverage from that contest , so yes the IFBB website is wrong , Dorian was 239lbs in 1991 , 242 in 1992 , Haney was 250lbs

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2011, 03:26:19 PM »
Says the guy who claims McGough is wrong when he says Ronnie was never harder or drier than Dorian?  ::) and yes I know more because I have Dorian's book and Haney's book , they both give their weights for that contest , and I have multiple magazines with coverage from that contest , so yes the IFBB website is wrong , Dorian was 239lbs in 1991 , 242 in 1992 , Haney was 250lbs

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2011, 03:28:34 PM »

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #69 on: October 20, 2011, 03:29:41 PM »
lol, so you think you know more than the IFBB about bodybuilding? Why don't you e-mail them to tell them they're wrong?

He is right. Dorian was 242 in 92 and gained 15 lb for 93, weighing 257 in said contest. Even though he only gained 15 lb, he looked a lot bigger because of the added mass, same as Ronnie did in 99 over 98, despite the weight difference being only 10 lb.

As for the thread, Dorian wins this. Only advantage Ronnie had was biceps - Dorian had better triceps and forearms. The difference in shoulders and chest were minimal. Plus Dorian was a lot drier, so all things considered, he wins over Ronnie. The only poses Ronnie would look better in would be FDB and most muscular.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #70 on: October 20, 2011, 03:30:17 PM »
Says the guy who claims McGough is wrong when he says Ronnie was never harder or drier than Dorian? and yes I know more because I have Dorian's book and Haney's book , they both give their weights for that contest , and I have multiple magazines with coverage from that contest , so yes the IFBB website is wrong , Dorian was 239lbs in 1991 , 242 in 1992 , Haney was 250lbs

says the guy who claims you have to see these bodybuilders in person b/c pictures lie yet disagrees with all the experts who have seen both live and say Ronnie is better, lmao

if you want to be taken seriously, then post a scan of a magazine listing his weight at the 91 Mr. Olympia. Right now, you look like a clueless anonymous person online who thinks he knows more than the IFBB

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #71 on: October 20, 2011, 03:33:44 PM »
in all fairness, dorian only looked this full in this show, in all olympias he looked very flat IMO while Ronnie after 98 always looked like that or even better.

Nope. He looked pretty bad in 2002, smaller and flatter than before he won the Olympia. Which is why he lost the SoS that year.

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2011, 03:34:26 PM »
says the guy who claims you have to see these guys in person b/c pictures lie yet disagrees with all the experts who have seen both live and say Ronnie is better, lmao

if you want to be taken seriously, then post a scan of a magazine listing his weight at the 91 Mr. Olympia. Right now, you look like a clueless anonymous person online who thinks he knows more than the IFBB

You mad bro?  ;)


 

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2011, 03:34:35 PM »

We can do this all day , Dorian would make Ronnie at his best 1998/2001 SMALL and soft and mis-matched

 :)

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Re: Who wins? Dorian '96 German GP or Ronnie '00 English GP?
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