GH15 - Use good sense and caution with his 'advice'

[Dr Dutch]

I think a cows ass is pretty natural, and so is Jos..

[purenaturalstrength]

I think a cows ass is pretty natural, and so is Jos..

pathetic if you really believe this

[Dr Dutch]

pathetic if you really believe this

Thank you, you're always so friendly with me..

[purenaturalstrength]

Thank you, you're always so friendly with me..

I'm just pissed off because you also did this in the first thread I made about him. Just claiming he's natural because he's from a backward shithole next to loland

[howardroark]

He doesn't have a juiced physique, if ya know what I mean. There's a different kind of look after you use steroids... like the muscle is more dense or something; it's difficult to explain. This guy... small chest, big bis. Overall good development for a natural trainee. A little too much bodyfat. This guy most likely is natural.

[Nomad]

6'0 - 220 12% without having done any deadlifts or squats.

Just another pretentious dipshit who wants to feel special by claiming natty. Watch him get all defensive as you start digging deep and clawing away at his "natty" status.

[el numero uno]

I'm just pissed off because you also did this in the first thread I made about him. Just claiming he's natural because he's from a backward shithole next to loland

 

[War-Horse]

Of course hes natural.  Only genetic pissants will belive hes a gearhead.

[howardroark]

Of course hes natural.  Only genetic pissants will belive hes a gearhead.

Or people who don't know how to diet or train without gear.

[War-Horse]

Or people who don't know how to diet or train without gear.

Agreed. Its sad that so many dont see it as a lifestyle thing...only a part of their life. These kids want it all in 3 months. Theyre missing the point..

[Dr Dutch]

I'm just pissed off because you also did this in the first thread I made about him. Just claiming he's natural because he's from a backward shithole next to loland

You're pissed because your own genetics suck and you know it.

[howardroark]

Agreed. Its sad that so many dont see it as a lifestyle thing...only a part of their life. These kids want it all in 3 months. Theyre missing the point..

I have NO problem with people using steroids... however, when people go around and accusing others with COMPLETELY NATURAL physiques of using steroids, it angers me to no end.

[Dr Dutch]

I have NO problem with people using steroids... however, when people go around and accusing others with COMPLETELY NATURAL physiques of using steroids, it angers me to no end.

It doesn't anger me, I just think this guy is natural, he's not that lean...

[howardroark]

It doesn't anger me, I just think this guy is natural, he's not that lean...

Agreed... small pecs, not that lean. This guy is natural. If he's not, then he must be retarded for not achieving a good physique.

[theheman]

To get that fullness in the biceps and to have the roundness to the shoulder requires synthetic testesterone.   If he isn't injecting then he for a fact is doing oral pro hormones.  Just because he may not inject steroids doesn't mean he is natural.

[aesthetics]

http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/true-natural-bodybuilding.html

I made a thread about it once and you guys all either didn't want to comment or flat out pretended he was natural


why is that?


6' 220lbs 20" arms 12% bf


"yes I believe it" the replies were




wtf




his training approach only further confirms he's juiced http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/jos-true-natural-bodybuilding-interview.html

(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)

"(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)"

yes this is the correct approach. you can't effectively deplete muscle glycogen stores unless you lift without eating, so his rationale is pretty silly but nonetheless he is correct in his training approach

[el numero uno]

A lot of hurt feelings in this thred, keep being naive, bodybuilding is surrounded by people who is full of shit. Just because they look natural, doesn't mean they are. I know a guy who started taking dianabol since his first week of training. He looked like shit but was he natural? Of course not.

[War-Horse]

Agreed... small pecs, not that lean. This guy is natural. If he's not, then he must be retarded for not achieving a good physique.

Your saying that he qualifies as natural cuz hes not leaner? Getting lean is easiar than building the base muscle. He has the clay to mold it so adjusting diet would be an easy task. Some guys have rounded muscle bellies and look bigger with their shirt off than on. He has a good base.

[chess315]

I doubt he is natural...BUT as you allow your bf% to get higher you can carry a lot more muscle naturaly a lot more. Gh15 talks about naturals at 5%-8% higher bf levels change the game. YOU can carry a hell of a lot more muscle at 12-15% thats why you see true natural powerlifters with good lifts.  I know a lot about what a natural can do think that there are people that size natural. He is not bodybuilder lean.

[Fury]

Looks good for a natural. Don't think those are 20" arms, though.

[purenaturalstrength]

You're pissed because your own genetics suck and you know it.

My genetics don't suck at all you moron

[War-Horse]

My genetics don't suck at all you moron

LOL. This place is hilarious.

[purenaturalstrength]

Agreed. Its sad that so many dont see it as a lifestyle thing...only a part of their life. These kids want it all in 3 months. Theyre missing the point..

nice try but i've been lifting weights since I was 14 and I'm turning 24 in 3 months

[purenaturalstrength]

"(high rep bodypart split, focusing more on "intensity" rather than lifting heavy.)"

yes this is the correct approach. you can't effectively deplete muscle glycogen stores unless you lift without eating, so his rationale is pretty silly but nonetheless he is correct in his training approach

it's a well established fact that high reps and body part splits don't work for natural lifters

[War-Horse]

nice try but i've been lifting weights since I was 14 and I'm turning 24 in 3 months

Thats sad bro. Your hormone levels are high at that age. Why would you be screwing with gear?