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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 05:57:32 AM »
Let's see:

Defecating and urinating on cop cars
Assaulting police
Rioting
Stealing
Raping
Vandalizing property
Racist/anti-Semitic rants
Drug Use
Lazy moochers who want someone else to take care of them


Gee.....I WONDER WHY Robertson would say that Christians shouldn't join those goofs at "Occupy Wall Street".

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 06:24:22 AM »
Let's see:

Defecating and urinating on cop cars
Assaulting police
Rioting
Stealing  he agrees with this
Raping
Vandalizing property
Racist/anti-Semitic rants    he agrees with this
Drug Use
Lazy moochers who want someone else to take care of them
can't make money off them

Gee.....I WONDER WHY Robertson would say that Christians shouldn't join those goofs at "Occupy Wall Street".

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 07:02:29 AM »
liberals can't be christians.  Remember?

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 07:05:43 AM »
Jesus broke the law

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego broke the law

Paul broke the law, Peter too, and served time in jail etc

I dont understand christians when they are against civil disobedience

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 07:33:05 AM »
Let's see:

Defecating and urinating on cop cars           Link to where this is wrong in Bible?
Assaulting police                                      Link to where this is wrong in Bible? Don't point to anti-hatred quotes, I mean specifically assault. If you point to Jesus telling Peter to put down the sword in the garden, then that leaves the door open to anti-self defense, and anti-war.
Rioting                                                   Link to where this is wrong in the Bible? If you are talking about civil disobedience in general, then see my above post.
Stealing                                                 Who said all protesters were stealing? Just becomes some might have, doesn't mean IF you become a protester, you WILL steal. So that's not a good enough reason to not become a protester
Raping                                                   A lot of pro-rape sections in the Bible. Where does it say rape in and of itself is wrong? Don't point to fornication versus because that would mean that married people can't be raped.
Vandalizing property                                 Link to where vandalism is wrong in the bible?
Racist/anti-Semitic rants                           A lot of prejudice against race as a whole in the Bible. See the old testament, like Numbers.
Drug Use                                                I'll save you the trouble, this isn't in the Bible.
Lazy moochers who want someone to care of them               You're interpreting scripture to fit your own interpretation. Jesus was not a capitalist. You are a capitalist who claims Jesus is on your side. It's not that clear. I could interpret Jesus as a socialist., Don't trust someone who says Jesus was on their side politically or economically...it wasn't that clear.


Gee.....I WONDER WHY Robertson would say that Christians shouldn't join those goofs at "Occupy Wall Street".

If you believe we get morality ONLY from the Bible, then you should be able to rattle off the top of your head the versus that correspond to everything you listed. If you can't remember or have trouble finding any of the above, then that means that you have a sense of morality that didn't come from the bible. But if morals come and only come from the Bible, then how is that possible.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 09:09:18 AM »
If you believe we get morality ONLY from the Bible, then you should be able to rattle off the top of your head the versus that correspond to everything you listed. If you can't remember or have trouble finding any of the above, then that means that you have a sense of morality that didn't come from the bible. But if morals come and only come from the Bible, then how is that possible.

Hate to tell you, but reality and common sense doesn't penetrate the fog of delusions that Christians try to pass off as facts.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 09:16:36 AM »
Where do I start dismembering this mess?

Two of the first three specifically violate Scripture, where it states that people are to RESPECT those in authority. Romans 13, for example: Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
 


Defacing property by defecating and urinating on it (which does NOTHING to advance the message of opposing corporate greed...or more importantly, the Washington entites that feed into that greed) is NOT respecting government authority. Same goes for rioting. You can protest WITHOUT rioting.


You asked where does it say rape is wrong. ARE YOU SERIOUS? Try Deut. 22, But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter.

Rapist put to DEATH! Enough said!!

You want to talk about vandalism, start with Exodus 22:1-6,

If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.  

If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.  

If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.  


If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double.  


If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, and shall put in his beast, and shall feed in another man's field; of the best of his own field, and of the best of his own vineyard, shall he make restitution.  


If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith; he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.  


Simply put, if you destroy someone else's property, YOU PAY THE PRICE to reimburse the owner for what you have destroyed.

There is no prejudice against race. Israel was banned from inter-marrying because of the IDOLATROUS PRACTICES of their neigbhors (which included some of the aforementioned ill behaviors, such as rape, and things like human sacrifice).

No drug use? Try that again!! Proverbs 23:30-32

Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?  They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.  

Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.  

At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.


Gal. 5:19-21,

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


And, regarding lazy moochers, 2 Thess. 3:10 states that if any man would not work, NEITHER SHOULD HE EAT. Furthermore, at no time did Jesus mandate that the government take care of other people who could otherwise care for themselves. And He certainly didn't advocate "sharing the weatlh" (See His parable about the talents; notice He didn't talk about taking the talents from the guy who had 5 and doubled it to 10, to give it to the other servants).

The Tea Party folks were protestors, as well. But notice you don't hear or see scores of them being hauled off by the cops or committing any of the obscenities that the OWS crackpots are doing.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 12:02:08 PM »
the only part I don't understand is why ANYONE (christian or not) would give a shit about anything that Pat Robertson says

can anyone explain ?

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 10:34:21 PM »
If you believe we get morality ONLY from the Bible, then you should be able to rattle off the top of your head the versus that correspond to everything you listed. If you can't remember or have trouble finding any of the above, then that means that you have a sense of morality that didn't come from the bible. But if morals come and only come from the Bible, then how is that possible.

Why do you need links to the Bible?  Just use your own common sense.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 10:35:45 PM »
Pat Robertson needs to just shut up already, but I don't see anything wrong with his comments.  He's actually right on the money about those protesters:

Televangelist Pat Robertson said Thursday on The 700 Club that Christians should not be involved in the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrations in cities around the nation.

His comment was picked up by the liberal watchdog website RightWingWatch.org.

“I think this is a rebellion,” he said. “I think it is atavistic. Nobody knows exactly what it is, they don’t know what they’re doing, why are they there? Well they’re just mad. Well, is it right for a Christian to get involved in a protest of anger?”
 
“If you’re going to demonstrate demonstrate for righteousness, demonstrate to lift the yoke of oppression, demonstrate to help those that are poverty stricken. But don’t just go out and mess up a park and just scream and tear up things. Why would you get involved in something like that? It’s formless, it has no purpose, but it could be used for radicals who want to destroy this nation, and that’s the bad part of it.”

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 12:11:01 PM »
the only part I don't understand is why ANYONE (christian or not) would give a shit about anything that Pat Robertson says

can anyone explain ?

  I'm a Christian, and I don't pay him much mind.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 12:14:31 PM »
 I'm a Christian, and I don't pay him much mind.

Neither do I.  

Except when he is doing 1,000 pounds on the leg press, even if they are quarter reps.   :)

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 05:46:44 AM »
How dare you ignore the man who teaches the Lord's word as it should be taught.

To hell you go.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 08:31:03 AM »
liberals can't be christians.  Remember?

Jesus was a liberal soo..

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 09:47:59 AM »
Robertson primary issue is that Christians believe some crazy ass shit and if they say it in public they won't get elected.   Basically he's saying to hide your true beliefs from the public

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 03:32:52 PM »
Jesus was a liberal soo..

No he wasn't.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2011, 03:41:47 PM »
Jesus was a liberal soo..

Oh yeah...show me how Jesus was a lib. U can't prove what he was either way. If anything Jesus was right down the center. Its only the modern liberal Church both Catholic and Protestant that have made Jesus look like half a fag..instead of who he was. Besides I don' think it really matters.
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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2011, 03:47:41 PM »
Oh yeah...show me how Jesus was a lib. U can't prove what he was either way. If anything Jesus was right down the center. Its only the modern liberal Church both Catholic and Protestant that have made Jesus look like half a fag..instead of who he was. Besides I don' think it really matters.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2011, 04:05:04 PM »
i don't know if he was a lib but i do know he was black


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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2011, 06:55:40 PM »
No he wasn't.

I thought he fed thousands of people with 5 fish and 2 loaves of bread?


that kind of handouts is just like the 12% of our population on EFT/food stamps.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2011, 07:13:22 PM »
I thought he fed thousands of people with 5 fish and 2 loaves of bread?


that kind of handouts is just like the 12% of our population on EFT/food stamps.

Wrong.  That was private charity, and conservatives tend to donate to charity more than liberals. 

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2011, 06:00:11 AM »
Wrong.  That was private charity, and conservatives tend to donate to charity more than liberals. 

Any link to support this claim?

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Re: Pat Robertson: Christians should not join ‘Occupy Wall Street’
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2011, 08:29:34 AM »
Wrong.  That was private charity, and conservatives tend to donate to charity more than liberals. 

interesting thought process

are you going to tell us that Jesus only advocated private charity and not any form of state sponsored assistance (such as food stamps) and was actually against such a thing?