2 (ok, maybe 3) women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

[andreisdaman]

The information is right in front of your face. YOU cited the article, stating the accusers got five-figure "settlements" (CNN referred to them as "separation packages").

They don't work at NRA any more, do they? And, for a sexual harrassment charge in an era where real victims of such got broke off BIG TIME, they ended up with 2-3 months' salary.

I'm glad that you are finally giving CNN the credibility that I have always said they deserve

[MCWAY]

you can't get information on the subject because he paid them off and they can't talk. now why was he lying all day yesterday

They have been talking. They talked to Politico and since Politico gave up a name to a member of Cain's staff, that excuse doesn't fly.

So once again, what are specifics that show that Cain is guilty (I hope it ain't the claim the one of them is a short as Cain's wife)?

As for Cain paying them off, that's dubious to say the least. They got canned and walked with a severance package, about 3 months' pay, a "five-figure settlement" according to Politico.

[blacken700]

you forgot the second question, why was he lying yesterday

[MCWAY]

you forgot the second question, why was he lying yesterday

And, you forgot the first, second, third, fourth, nth questions put to YOU, regarding the specific evidence that cites Cain's alleged guilt of sexual harrassment.

When you deal with that, we'll talk and not before. You don't get to duck questions then demand that other people answer yours.

[LurkerNoMore]

Where is the evidence that Cain did what he's being accused of doing?

While there is no direct evidence - as of yet - the fact that he had to lie about it indirectly shows he is trying to hide something.

[blacken700]

They have been talking. They talked to Politico and since Politico gave up a name to a member of Cain's staff, that excuse doesn't fly.

So once again, what are specifics that show that Cain is guilty (I hope it ain't the claim the one of them is a short as Cain's wife)?

As for Cain paying them off, that's dubious to say the least. They got canned and walked with a severance package, about 3 months' pay, a "five-figure settlement" according to Politico.

source of where you got the information that the two women talked to politico

[MCWAY]

While there is no direct evidence - as of yet - the fact that he had to lie about it indirectly shows he is trying to hide something.

If Cain is trying to hide something, it appears to be the severance package issue. The implication being, as I said earlier, the assumption of guilt that some associate with a settlement.

[blacken700]

While there is no direct evidence - as of yet - the fact that he had to lie about it indirectly shows he is trying to hide something.

 

exacty,they can't even admit he lied,i'm glad my family and i don't have their kind of family values

[MCWAY]

 

exacty,they can't even admit he lied,i'm glad my family and i don't have their kind of family values

You just have the kind that accuses people of something with next to no evidence to back it. I'm glad I don't have YOUR kind of family values, especially since (as 333386 stated earlier) you didn't have a problem with Obama's lying (with plenty of evidence showing that he did such).

[blacken700]

did he lie yesterday yes or no

[MCWAY]

did he lie yesterday yes or no

I believe you have some questions to answer first. You do that; then, we'll talk.

[blacken700]

how sad you know he lied and you can't even say it ,source of where you got the information that the two women talked to politico , can you talk about that or is that something else you can't answer

[MCWAY]

how sad you know he lied and you can't even say it ,source of where you got the information that the two women talked to politico , can you talk about that or is that something else you can't answer

Politico's Jonathan Martin, "We're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women beside what's in the story."

How does he know about what exactly what happened, OTHER THAN WHAT'S in the story?

Sounds to me as if the women (or someone on their behalf) talked to Politico.

Though, to play devil's advocate, I could suggest that such isn't quite enough to state undisputedly that they blabbed to Politico.

[blacken700]

The sources — including the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the women upset and offended.

says nothing about the woman talking

[MCWAY]

The sources — including the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the women upset and offended.

says nothing about the woman talking

Of course, Politico isn't going to say that directly. That puts the women on the spot and (perhaps) puts them on the hook to cough up that severance pay.

The story INCLUDES these other sources. So, how can they have the ability to go into details of what happened, besides what's in the story, unless the women (or someone on their behalf) spilled the proverbial beans?

[blacken700]

since we weren't there to say that the woman talked would be pure speculation

[LurkerNoMore]

If Cain is trying to hide something, it appears to be the severance package issue. The implication being, as I said earlier, the assumption of guilt that some associate with a settlement.

A severance package issue is nothing to hide.  It's a fact of life for many people who are let go and/or fired.  That is nothing to try to dodge or be ashamed about.  If that were all it was, he wouldn't have flubbed up so bad and tried to hide it.

This could be like the &guy Woods thing.  Two women coming to light now followed by another twenty or so.  Or it could be nothing.  However, conventional wisdom says a person doesn't lie about something unless they are trying to hide something.  

Whether he is guilty or not, that is another issue at hand (which I really don't even care about), but he sat right there and lied about this issue.

Do you agree on that part?  That he lied.

[blacken700]

he not going to answer that, already tried

[LurkerNoMore]

McWay, Did Cain lie?

Yes or no.

[240 is Back]

He probably lied,

What 'probably' is there?

He told CNN that he suddenly remembered all those details throughout the day.

Coincidentally, right as cnn and politico and nbc broke those items.

If he's not lying, he's mentally incapacitated.  He had 10 days to think about it, and only after being caught in lies did his memory refresh.

Geez, I would prefer paul or romney or bachmann or even tpaww over Cain.  He's a hot mess lol

[240 is Back]

what cracks me up, is when people pretend it's okay the republican frontrunner delivers obvious lies yesterday...

because obama did some shady shit.

I mean.... imagine getting caught in bed with your secretary... and believing you can weasel out of it because "babe, my friend is cheating with all sorts of women, and I'm only banging Brandi here, so everything is A-okay!"

[Dos Equis]

LOL!  I can't believe this thread is 12 pages long. 

Wait . . . yes I can.   

[MCWAY]

A severance package issue is nothing to hide.  It's a fact of life for many people who are let go and/or fired.  That is nothing to try to dodge or be ashamed about.  If that were all it was, he wouldn't have flubbed up so bad and tried to hide it.

This could be like the &guy Woods thing.  Two women coming to light now followed by another twenty or so.  Or it could be nothing.  However, conventional wisdom says a person doesn't lie about something unless they are trying to hide something.  

Whether he is guilty or not, that is another issue at hand (which I really don't even care about), but he sat right there and lied about this issue.

Do you agree on that part?  That he lied.

A severance package is something to hide, when the implication (factual or otherwise) is that Cain is guilty of sexual harrassment, because severance pay was given to the accusers and they got gone.

We saw that happen with a certain deceased King of Pop.

As stated earlier, I will give my answer, regarding whether Cain is lying or not, when Blacken answers the questions I've put his way since yesterday afternoon.

[MCWAY]

since we weren't there to say that the woman talked would be pure speculation

Yet, you're willing to use "pure speculation" to state that, in fact, Cain sexually harrassed these women.

[LurkerNoMore]

A severance package is something to hide, when the implication (factual or otherwise) is that Cain is guilty of sexual harrassment, because severance pay was given to the accusers and they got gone.

We saw that happen with a certain deceased King of Pop.

As stated earlier, I will give my answer, regarding whether Cain is lying or not, when Blacken answers the questions I've put his way since yesterday afternoon.

Not really.  If it was legit there is nothing at all improper about clarifying anything when you are running for the highest office in the free world.

Whatever you and blacken have going is between you, I am just asking you if Cain lied or not.  A simple yes or no would work.  Then you can go back to whatever you and blacken are engaged in.