So with Cain's campaign most likely done, is it now Romney vs Paul?

[Fury]

Bullish for the good doctor.

[Skip8282]

Paul, Cain and Huntsman are the ones I've liked most, but it's looking like Cain has some background shit that's going to sink him (maybe not).

Always liked a lot of what Newt's views are toward policy, but I'm leaning away from him.

Suppose that leaves RP and Huntsman.

[240 is Back]

Ron Paul 2012.

and Berserker, the good news is that if enough leftist dbag kneepadders like me vote for paul, he could win.

Seeing the poll on getbig where Paul is crushing everyone - we can see there are a LOT of left-thinkers here who like Paul.

And of course the tea party loves the guy.  And if he gets love from both sides - he could win.

[Dos Equis]

Not a chance.  Paul isn't going anywhere.  Still a three-horse race IMO (Romney, Cain, Perry).  Newt would stand to benefit the most if Cain sinks in the polls.

Huntsman has gotten above 1 or 2 percent since entering the race.  He should quit.   

[Ron]

Romney is perhaps the only one who can stand a chance against Obama.  Not because of the Republicans (they are going to vote for whoever is the Republican candidate anyhow), but because of the independent voters who did vote for Obama but now cannot beleive a word he says.   

Cain's situation with the women he harrassed is not going to go away.  He made them sign a confidential agreement so they cannot say anything.  He will need to lift that so these women have the freedom of speech to tell what really happened before he is going anyway. 

Too bad his dick got in the way of his big head.  A few moments of testosterone ruined his good chances of becoming the candidate.

[MCWAY]

Romney is perhaps the only one who can stand a chance against Obama.  Not because of the Republicans (they are going to vote for whoever is the Republican candidate anyhow), but because of the independent voters who did vote for Obama but now cannot beleive a word he says.   

Cain's situation with the women he harrassed is not going to go away.  He made them sign a confidential agreement so they cannot say anything.  He will need to lift that so these women have the freedom of speech to tell what really happened before he is going anyway. 

Too bad his dick got in the way of his big head.  A few moments of testosterone ruined his good chances of becoming the candidate.

According to news reports, Cain has no say in the confidentiality agreement. That's on the NRA. The thing is, the lawyer of one of the women says she wants to talk; but the woman herself may not (or wants to do so under anonymity).

That doesn't wash to me. Every time someone asks for the specifics for what Cain supposedly get, we get the runaround.

Only two women are under this confidentiality clause. The other people, claming that Cain made "inappropriate remarks" (the Iowa DJ, Chris Wilson, etc) are not. So, what's the deal?

[LurkerNoMore]

It would be good to see just Romney vs Paul in the primary.   Paul always seems to suffer when more options are parading around the stage.

[MCWAY]

Well, whoever has this alleged bombshell had better drop it quickly.

Because, at least in SC, Cain's approval has gone UP, despite all these allegations.

Despite Allegations, Cain's SC Lead Widening





Despite two days of allegations of sexual harassment dating back to the 1990s, Georgia businessman Herman Cain's meteoric rise to the top of the GOP polls continues.

In the first Rasmussen Reports poll of likely S.C. Republican primary voters conducted Tuesday, Cain carried 33 percent of the support, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 23 percent.

Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich was the only other candidate in double-figures at 15 percent, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry (9 percent), Rep. Ron Paul (5 percent), Rep. Michele Bachmann (2 percent), former Sen. Rick Santorum (1 percent) and former Gov. Jon Huntsman (1 percent) trailed the field.

Huntsman is in the state for three days this week, while most of the candidates will return to Spartanburg Nov. 12 for the first nationally televised debate of the primary season.

Cain's strong showing equals that in Iowa and New Hampshire prior to the allegations. He finished first in Iowa and second in New Hampshire (behind Romney) in recent polling.

Cain's rise to the top is equal to that of Perry, who soared after his summer announcement in Charleston but quickly faded as his debate performances disappointed. Despite Cain's strong support in early primary/ caucus state polling, however, 44 percent of those polled said they expected Romney to eventually win the nomination.

Three-fourths of those polled knew that Cain had been accused of sexually harassing women at the National Restaurant Association. But only 30 percent of the 700 respondents believe the allegations are "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to be true.

Cain's base of support comes from those who identify themselves as very conservative. Those polled said they planned to vote for Cain, 40 percent to 25 percent over Gingrich, who came in second. Less conservative Republicans chose Cain slightly over Romney. And moderate Republicans chose Romney slightly over Cain.

The good news for Romney is that only 28 percent said they were certain of their voting plans for the Jan. 21 primary at this juncture. The bad news: 30 percent said they "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to support a third-party candidate if Romney is the nominee.

 

[Option D]

Well, whoever has this alleged bombshell had better drop it quickly.

Because, at least in SC, Cain's approval has gone UP, despite all these allegations.

Despite Allegations, Cain's SC Lead Widening





Despite two days of allegations of sexual harassment dating back to the 1990s, Georgia businessman Herman Cain's meteoric rise to the top of the GOP polls continues.

In the first Rasmussen Reports poll of likely S.C. Republican primary voters conducted Tuesday, Cain carried 33 percent of the support, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 23 percent.

Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich was the only other candidate in double-figures at 15 percent, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry (9 percent), Rep. Ron Paul (5 percent), Rep. Michele Bachmann (2 percent), former Sen. Rick Santorum (1 percent) and former Gov. Jon Huntsman (1 percent) trailed the field.

Huntsman is in the state for three days this week, while most of the candidates will return to Spartanburg Nov. 12 for the first nationally televised debate of the primary season.

Cain's strong showing equals that in Iowa and New Hampshire prior to the allegations. He finished first in Iowa and second in New Hampshire (behind Romney) in recent polling.

Cain's rise to the top is equal to that of Perry, who soared after his summer announcement in Charleston but quickly faded as his debate performances disappointed. Despite Cain's strong support in early primary/ caucus state polling, however, 44 percent of those polled said they expected Romney to eventually win the nomination.

Three-fourths of those polled knew that Cain had been accused of sexually harassing women at the National Restaurant Association. But only 30 percent of the 700 respondents believe the allegations are "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to be true.

Cain's base of support comes from those who identify themselves as very conservative. Those polled said they planned to vote for Cain, 40 percent to 25 percent over Gingrich, who came in second. Less conservative Republicans chose Cain slightly over Romney. And moderate Republicans chose Romney slightly over Cain.

The good news for Romney is that only 28 percent said they were certain of their voting plans for the Jan. 21 primary at this juncture. The bad news: 30 percent said they "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to support a third-party candidate if Romney is the nominee.

 

Jesus h christ..

[Soul Crusher]

 

[Bindare_Dundat]

Cains supporters are totally clueless. These arent real Conservatives at all. They are supporting a person who's ideology  was a main focal point of mistrust and criticism of the original Tea Party movement and now hes their leader. The fact that some don't recognize this just goes to show how lost the public is. I can't beleive people are falling for expanded militarization, a person that supported TARP, a person that doent have a full grasp of the world around him, etc.. mind blowing. To me, voting for Cain is no different then voting for McInsane. Before  anyone says he would do better then Obama, I would agree bad is better then worse but its far from great.

They think things are really going to change when by Cains own admission has said he 's going to have "people that are familiar with these things deal with it" Thats been the problem for all these years, its the same idiots  in the background running things. We need someone in charge that has a complete understanding of our problems and how to solve them and surrounds himself with like minded people, not some clueless fool that is going to put his trust into more Neocon/pro Federal Reserve jerkoffs.

 

[240 is Back]

this shit isn't about race.

perry or romney leaked it to destory his lead.

It's about cain being fkin incompetnent.  DIdn't know china had nukes.  taht alone is enough to disqualify a presidential candidate.

[240 is Back]

Cains supporters are totally clueless. These arent real Conservatives at all. They are supporting a person who's ideology  was a main focal point of mistrust and criticism of the original Tea Party movement and now hes their leader. The fact that some don't recognize this just goes to show how lost the public is. I can't beleive people are falling for expanded militarization, a person that supported TARP, a person that doent have a full grasp of the world around him, etc.. mind blowing. To me this, voting for Cain is no different then voting for McInsane. Befre you anyone says he would do better then Obama, I would agree bad is better then worse but its far from great.

Cain was a fed man for years.  A lobbyist for years.  Funded by kochs for years. 

Can't handle a crisis.  Will empty GITMO.  Doesn't know china has nukes.

He's a corporate shill - and an incompetent one at that.

I know, yall fell for the "businessman gonna fix everything" - I did too.  I admit he's a mess and would make a terrible GOP representative.

SC GOP voters are ignorant.  They crave stupid cause "he's just like me!"

[MCWAY]

this shit isn't about race.

perry or romney leaked it to destory his lead.

It's about cain being fkin incompetnent.  DIdn't know china had nukes.  taht alone is enough to disqualify a presidential candidate.

By that standard, Obama should be resigning, based on his inablity say the word, "Corpsman" correctly.

[Bindare_Dundat]

By that standard, Obama should be resigning, based on his inablity say the word, "Corpsman" correctly.

Why do you always find a way to excuse someone by digging up someone else who is even worse? If your kid brought home a report card full of D's would you excuse it becasue another kid in the class got a card full of F's?

[240 is Back]

By that standard, Obama should be resigning, based on his inablity say the word, "Corpsman" correctly.

Cain didn't know china had nukes.  it just boggles the mind.  
Cain would release all the GITMO bad guys if Al-Q kidnapped 1 US troops.  Insane.

Look, i don't care about this harassment thing - I'm just mad Cain lied to us with such smugness.

But aside from all this - this guy is not all that smart or shrewd or ready to be PRESIDENT>  
If guys like Romney and Paul and Newt would do better - why don't repubs just walk away from Cain and pick one of them?

Every minute spent defending Cain = another minute people see your credibility and judgment as poor.

There are several repubs who would do an awesome job undoing obama's damage - Cain just seems not ready for the job.

[Hugo Chavez]

oh shit, he has a new favorite pic.  Are you really going to post that a billion times for us?  Make sure we've each seen it over and over?

[Soul Crusher]

Cain didn't know china had nukes.  it just boggles the mind.  
Cain would release all the GITMO bad guys if Al-Q kidnapped 1 US troops.  Insane.

Look, i don't care about this harassment thing - I'm just mad Cain lied to us with such smugness.

But aside from all this - this guy is not all that smart or shrewd or ready to be PRESIDENT>  
If guys like Romney and Paul and Newt would do better - why don't repubs just walk away from Cain and pick one of them?

Every minute spent defending Cain = another minute people see your credibility and judgment as poor.

There are several repubs who would do an awesome job undoing obama's damage - Cain just seems not ready for the job.

OH CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER MORON!  


How about you bump ONE FUCKING THREAD from 2007 - 2010 calling out obama's lies?  



Just one will do.  

[MCWAY]

Why do you always find a way to excuse someone by digging up someone else who is even worse? If your kid brought home a report card full of D's would you excuse it becasue another kid in the class got a card full of F's?

The point you clearly missed is that BOTH are flimsy excuses to dismiss someone as being an office holder.

If we DQed somebody for not knowing about certain items, there'd be NO PRESIDENT (from either party).

[LurkerNoMore]

oh shit, he has a new favorite pic.  Are you really going to post that a billion times for us?  Make sure we've each seen it over and over?

No shit.  And 99% of the times the pic will be posted as a reply to something completely unrelated to what is being discussed.

[Bindare_Dundat]

The point you clearly missed is that BOTH are flimsy excuses to dismiss someone as being an office holder.

If we DQed somebody for not knowing about certain items, there'd be NO PRESIDENT (from either party).

 I guess our standards are much different. Or maybe one of us is more street wise then the other and knows when they are being taken for a ride.

[240 is Back]

No shit.  And 99% of the times the pic will be posted as a reply to something completely unrelated to what is being discussed.

[James]

Ron Paul 2012.

and Berserker, the good news is that if enough leftist dbag kneepadders like me vote for paul, he could win.

Seeing the poll on getbig where Paul is crushing everyone - we can see there are a LOT of left-thinkers here who like Paul.

And of course the tea party loves the guy.  And if he gets love from both sides - he could win.

Considering Obama and Paul are the exact opposites, and also considering that you have basically supported everything Obama has done while in Office (except Obamacare)  What issues do you now agree with Paul on?

[Soul Crusher]

Considering Obama and Paul are the exact opposites, and also considering that you have basically supported everything Obama has done while in Office (except Obamacare)  What issues do you now agree with Paul on?

Other than guns, 180 disagrees with everything RP stands for.  Go issue by issue.   180 = Obama

[James]

Other than guns, 180 disagrees with everything RP stands for.  Go issue by issue.   180 = Obama

Exactly, and remember when 180 went after McCain for being too old in 2008?  Well Paul is older than McCain (and it is 4 years later). So if Paul was the Republican nominee, I am sure this would be one of 180's first attacks agasint him.