Pro Level Contest Prep Cycle

[Salvatore Martinez]

There is no "belief," I know how this stuff works as a fact. I am sorry that you find it unimaginable that a UGL would give a pro bodybuilder a lot of free gear, but thats how the world works. A lot of the time, if they live on the east coast, they end up remailing raw powders for more money and gear.

Very few people get gh for free. I stated earlier, they get gh at a discounted price as part of the deal. Chinese generic gh is nowhere near as expensive as the suppliers want you to think so it can be marked down a lot and still have room for profit. Most of these guys will receive a bulk shipment of pallets of chinese generics, sell them locally and then buy serostim with the profit.

yes but that list said "Serostim" and as we all know there is a HUGE difference between that and these bullshit blue and yellow tops floating around.

[BFG]

yes but that list said "Serostim" and as we all know there is a HUGE difference between that and these bullshit blue and yellow tops floating around.

I apologize for the confusion. I explained in the above post how serostim is usually afforded. Furthermore, I would not say all the chinese generics are "bullshit" - in fact there are some very potent brands circulating, the problem is that the supplier usually does not know if they are purchasing (as an example) the true 98 percent purity elitropin green tops or an imitation. There is very little quality control in that region and usually the supplier is just as confused as the end user.

[Salvatore Martinez]

I apologize for the confusion. I explained in the above post how serostim is usually afforded. Furthermore, I would not say all the chinese generics are "bullshit" - in fact there are some very potent brands circulating, the problem is that the supplier usually does not know if they are purchasing (as an example) the true 98 percent purity elitropin green tops or an imitation. There is very little quality control in that region and usually the supplier is just as confused as the end user.

no problem man, oh i know that there are some very high quality generics out there but i'm a believer of GH15's theory that nothing touches the real thing, the Serostims, Humalogs, etc. and i've seen that stuff sell for as much as 500 bucks a kit believe it or not.

[Siimply]

BFG, sorry to hijack the thread - will you do a post on a typical gym rat cycle that can be used year long and the most cost effective ?

[Wiggs]

Thank you Mr. BFG.  So much better an more coherant than dipshit15.

[notsureifsrs]

And that's must be the healthy part of the prep, wait till you see the narcotics list  

[Swlabr]

Thank you Mr. BFG.  So much better an more coherant than dipshit15.

Shut the fuck up already, you gorbellied clapper-clawed clotpole.

[hangclean]

letro at 2.5 mgs and arimadex at 1 mg every day.  say goodbye to an erection, i dont care how much viagra you can take.

[OTHstrong]

I apologize for the confusion. I explained in the above post how serostim is usually afforded. Furthermore, I would not say all the chinese generics are "bullshit" - in fact there are some very potent brands circulating, the problem is that the supplier usually does not know if they are purchasing (as an example) the true 98 percent purity elitropin green tops or an imitation. There is very little quality control in that region and usually the supplier is just as confused as the end user.

Less then a 100 post and evryone here sees that you know your shit, thanks and stick around

[240_Iz_Nutz]

There is no "belief," I know how this stuff works as a fact. I am sorry that you find it unimaginable that a UGL would give a pro bodybuilder a lot of free gear, but thats how the world works. A lot of the time, if they live on the east coast, they end up remailing raw powders for more money and gear.

Very few people get gh for free. I stated earlier, they get gh at a discounted price as part of the deal. Chinese generic gh is nowhere near as expensive as the suppliers want you to think so it can be marked down a lot and still have room for profit. Most of these guys will receive a bulk shipment of pallets of chinese generics, sell them locally and then buy serostim with the profit.

I remember when UG Cialis from China first came out. I got a bunch of it thinking that all the party boys would love it. At first everybody was like "I don't need that shit man". It was so cheap that I told my buddy that dealt with 99% of the people to just give it all away. He did. Then boom, I couldn't keep enough of it on hand. Hella profit and we weren't the ones making it, just middle men. It's a little different than what you are talking about, but having some guy that the gym rats idolize selling stuff you make is a gold mine. So, yeah, I can see it with as cheap as raws can be had if you know the right people.

[gh15]

The following is the contest prep cycle of a current IFBB pro. This was from a year ago.

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(diuretics not included)

12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout

8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day

2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex

there is a lot of truth in this postings,, doses are NOT accurate,, i repaet doses are NOT! accurate,, now this! is something that is NOT taken from pro level!,, make sure pupils that you read what im saying here,, this is over all products we use but this is NOT!  pro level cycle ,,those doses are off especialy the testosterona doses which are all over the place ,,

again this fella does have a clue he is most likley amatuer competitor but this is NOT I REPEAT NOT!  pro cycle,,we do not! do cycles we hav eone long usage of hormones through our career and past it

gh15 approved

[Swlabr]

Please don't tell me the dosages are too low...

[gh15]

Please don't tell me the dosages are too low...

no i will elaborate when i can have time to writre ,, his doses are off,, this is not pro cycle ,, it is amaturish national type of cycles of generation nothingess ,, the ones who place 8-16 th nationals

doses are not too low they are just not accurate,,products are right ther eis some truth to what he write but its just  a mish mash ,, as in fit what you can into a cycle type of mishmash,,

i will explain later

gh15 approved

[OTHstrong]

there is a lot of truth in this postings,, doses are NOT accurate,, i repaet doses are NOT! accurate,, now this! is something that is NOT taken from pro level!,, make sure pupils that you read what im saying here,, this is over all products we use but this is NOT!  pro level cycle ,,those doses are off especialy the testosterona doses which are all over the place ,,

again this fella does have a clue he is most likley amatuer competitor but this is NOT I REPEAT NOT!  pro cycle,,we do not! do cycles we hav eone long usage of hormones through our career and past it

gh15 approved

Jealous, 7 grams and 24 Iu gh and still not pro level? man you are full of contradictions.

[freakyou]

no i will elaborate when i can have time to writre ,, his doses are off,, this is not pro cycle ,, it is amaturish national type of cycles of generation nothingess ,, the ones who place 8-16 th nationals

doses are not too low they are just not accurate,,products are right ther eis some truth to what he write but its just  a mish mash ,, as in fit what you can into a cycle type of mishmash,,

i will explain later

gh15 approved

this is going to be interesting lol

[Galvatron]

BFG, do you have contacts in washington?

[dustin]

From what I've seen from Canadian competitors, that looks like something an amateur or Canadian pro would do. Even before gh15 posted, I too thought the doses were a little all over the place. But then again, all these mid-tier "gurus" throw seemingly random compounds all over the board and back their logic behind them to the death. I guess this makes them feel distinguished or something. Just seems unnecessary to me, but these guys don't usually have it all in the head anyway.

If I were sponsored by a lab and getting myself ready to prance in a glittery thong, I'd simplify the compounds and change some of the doses around. A lot of the reason why these guys are competing at the levels they are, is because their body's can tolerate that sort of abuse. For me, rigor mortis would set in and I'd be too lethargic and fucked up to train. Some guys can keep injecting and injecting forever and it doesn't phase them. It scares the shit out of me because I have a few friends like this. They take literally everything they can get their hands on and pin vials worth of juice every day.

I can't imagine draining a single vial of anything in a day.

[flinstones1]

The more I read the more I'm starting to realize that at the end of the day your genes to build muscle  are not as important as having the genetics to withstand the drug intake required to be a pro. Bodybuilding really is the survival of the fittest and how long you can abuse yourself before getting sick. Jay Cutler is umbelievable in that regard, been "on" for the past 20 years still looks pretty healthy. Then you have guys like Trey Brewer who look like death at 22 years old lol

[jude2]

no problem man, oh i know that there are some very high quality generics out there but i'm a believer of GH15's theory that nothing touches the real thing, the Serostims, Humalogs, etc. and i've seen that stuff sell for as much as 500 bucks a kit believe it or not.

What are u talking about. GH15 says there are some gh products than Sersostim and Humalogs. Don't u read his approved gh list and the new Kigs his elfs tested.

[dustin]

The more I read the more I'm starting to realize that at the end of the day your genes to build muscle  are not as important as having the genetics to withstand the drug intake required to be a pro. Bodybuilding really is the survival of the fittest and how long you can abuse yourself before getting sick. Jay Cutler is umbelievable in that regard, been "on" for the past 20 years still looks pretty healthy. Then you have guys like Trey Brewer who look like death at 22 years old lol

Bro, you're catching on unbelievably quick. You're lucky to know this so young because training with the PROPER KNOWLEDGE makes a world of difference. I'm happy for you (and jealous, you dick sucker).

It's all about drug tolerance and intuition. You need to be able to take the shit, tolerate it, and acquire it all with extreme ease. If any of this is too difficult, it'll greatly hinder your ability to compete in the higher ranks. When you can respond well, tolerate grams of gear and be able to cover the cost easily then you're set. It also helps to be intuitive in the sense that you know your body and you know the scene. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, but some common sense along with the abovementioned will take someone far.

[njflex]

Bro, you're catching on unbelievably quick. You're lucky to know this so young because training with the PROPER KNOWLEDGE makes a world of difference. I'm happy for you (and jealous, you dick sucker).

It's all about drug tolerance and intuition. You need to be able to take the shit, tolerate it, and acquire it all with extreme ease. If any of this is too difficult, it'll greatly hinder your ability to compete in the higher ranks. When you can respond well, tolerate grams of gear and be able to cover the cost easily then you're set. It also helps to be intuitive in the sense that you know your body and you know the scene. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, but some common sense along with the abovementioned will take someone far.

good post,,,

[Agent69]

no i will elaborate when i can have time to writre ,, his doses are off,, this is not pro cycle ,, it is amaturish national type of cycles of generation nothingess ,, the ones who place 8-16 th nationals

doses are not too low they are just not accurate,,products are right ther eis some truth to what he write but its just  a mish mash ,, as in fit what you can into a cycle type of mishmash,,

i will explain later

gh15 approved

yup numbers are way off...........

[flinstones1]

Bro, you're catching on unbelievably quick. You're lucky to know this so young because training with the PROPER KNOWLEDGE makes a world of difference. I'm happy for you (and jealous, you dick sucker).

It's all about drug tolerance and intuition. You need to be able to take the shit, tolerate it, and acquire it all with extreme ease. If any of this is too difficult, it'll greatly hinder your ability to compete in the higher ranks. When you can respond well, tolerate grams of gear and be able to cover the cost easily then you're set. It also helps to be intuitive in the sense that you know your body and you know the scene. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, but some common sense along with the abovementioned will take someone far.

do you think if your one of those guys who doesn't have the ability to survive the abuse of androgens year round and high doses of tren insulin, orals and equipoise, that you can make up for it with shitloads of gh year round?  Could Jay Cutler really of been on 3-5 grams of testosterone,  equipoise and tons of tren for the past two decades and be alive and competig right now? Dante says no way and that these guys are doing boatloads of gh and baby doses of testosterone (only) in the offseason to make up for it, but I know Disgusted disagrees and said  the moment you lower the anabolics you will loose alot no matter how much gh your on. Haven't heard gh15's opinion on this yet. So What's the truth here?

Thing is I have never seen any pics of Jay (or most of the current pros) small and soft at any part of the year they are always jacked, hard,etc.

thanks for the words btw

[gh15]

fellas ,, you have to let me be able to log on and take my time in answeiring,, i cant have milion pms everytime i log on to here,, this is bordering insanity,, i will answer eveyrthing but i also have to do something with my dog today we going to dog gathering of same type of dogs wth competition and relays and all that,, you have to give me some kind of space to answer questions in my own time,, i will whenever im in the thunderdome like i always does,, you know i never avoid anything

will answer everything just give me breathing time i cant have new 10 pms eveyrtime i log into thunderdome it is impsoible to respond to even if i want

gh15 approved

[Max B]

why the fuck would you need almost 2 grams of masteron a week