Author Topic: Muscle Cars Thread (Read 33425 times)

njflex · « **Reply #76 on:** November 20, 2011, 08:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Go 4 It on November 20, 2011, 06:45:33 PM

I always thought the BMW Z8 roadster was tight, not very common at all.

car had great look/lines,,,short lived ,,100 k plus,,,not everyday driver,battery issues ,,,same with the 850 nice look,,never took off...

bradistani · « **Reply #77 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:06:07 PM »

Abacab · « **Reply #78 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:49:53 PM »

bradistani · « **Reply #79 on:** November 21, 2011, 08:39:08 AM »

MAXX · « **Reply #80 on:** November 21, 2011, 08:55:38 AM »

Quote from: bradistani on November 21, 2011, 08:39:08 AM

nice musclecar

nder98 · « **Reply #81 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:11:36 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on November 19, 2011, 01:37:14 PM

I love this thing

mass243 · « **Reply #82 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:20:30 PM »

Skeletor · « **Reply #83 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:23:01 PM »

bradistani · « **Reply #84 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:32:46 PM »

Quote from: poldaktalos on November 21, 2011, 12:23:01 PM

mass243 · « **Reply #85 on:** November 21, 2011, 01:10:21 PM »

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #86 on:** November 21, 2011, 02:04:20 PM »

Quote from: KevinP85 on November 20, 2011, 05:16:46 PM

Porsche Carrera GT, Lexus LFA, Lamborghini gallardo/ Audi R8, e60 M5, even Viper, all IMO shit on V8's in sound.

Best sounding V8's to me are high revving ones from Ferrari, Audi rs4, e9x m3's, and the exception c63 amg and isf. I prefer refinement sounding cars over muscle any day. That is not sayin they don't sound good though.

Sorry man but NOTHING shits on the American big block. Not even the Lamborghini V12 which makes me melt at the knees.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #87 on:** November 21, 2011, 02:33:52 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on November 21, 2011, 02:04:20 PM

Sorry man but NOTHING shits on the American big block. Not even the Lamborghini V12 which makes me melt at the knees.

In regards to power, you're correct... Where Euro cars always win is the handling.

American cars do not go around curves very well.

MAXX · « **Reply #88 on:** November 21, 2011, 02:37:59 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on November 21, 2011, 02:33:52 PM

In regards to power, you're correct... Where Euro cars always win is the handling.

American cars do not go around curves very well.

where as the asians are the best as they stole the best of both worlds, european and american.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #89 on:** November 21, 2011, 03:55:52 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on November 21, 2011, 02:33:52 PM

In regards to power, you're correct... Where Euro cars always win is the handling.

American cars do not go around curves very well.

Fixed

tu_holmes · « **Reply #90 on:** November 21, 2011, 04:24:16 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on November 21, 2011, 03:55:52 PM

Fixed

I doubt that.

I've not driven the new Boss, but I'm sure it doesn't do very well. They're still using the same suspension as the GT, which sucks.

Skeletor · « **Reply #91 on:** November 21, 2011, 04:28:34 PM »

May I add:

It took a while but these three prove that American cars can be fast at the track, not just the strip.

bradistani · « **Reply #92 on:** November 21, 2011, 04:30:17 PM »

tu_holmes · « **Reply #93 on:** November 21, 2011, 04:31:00 PM »

Quote from: poldaktalos on November 21, 2011, 04:28:34 PM

May I add:

It took a while but these three prove that American cars can be fast at the track, not just the strip.

They are the ONLY 3 US cars (and one isn't even made anymore) that really can get around a track well.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #94 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:00:43 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on November 21, 2011, 04:24:16 PM

I doubt that.

I've not driven the new Boss, but I'm sure it doesn't do very well. They're still using the same suspension as the GT, which sucks.

You were saying...

Laguna Seca Lap Times:

2012 Boss 302 LS: 1:39.50
2009 Audi R8 V10: 1:40.20
2008 Nissan GTR: 1:40.45
2010 Mercedes SLS AMG: 1:40.74

tu_holmes · « **Reply #95 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:05:00 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on November 21, 2011, 05:00:43 PM

You were saying...

Laguna Seca Lap Times:

2012 Boss 302 LS: 1:39.50
2009 Audi R8 V10: 1:40.20
2008 Nissan GTR: 1:40.45
2010 Mercedes SLS AMG: 1:40.74

Here's the full list.

1.   Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR   1:33.92   138   '08   600 / 1536   Chris Winkler
2.   Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package   1:34.43   137   '11   512 / 1394   Motor Trend
3.   Devon GTX   1:35.08   136   0   659 / 0   Devon
4.   Porsche 911 GT2 RS   1:35.56   136   '10   620 / 1370   Excellence
5.   Chevrolet Corvette ZR1   1:35.80   135   '08   647 / 1530   Motor Trend
6.   Ferrari 458 Italia   1:36.22   135   '09   570 / 1485   Motor Trend
7.   Nissan GT-R   1:36.35   135   '11   530 / 1736   Motor Trend
8.   Lexus LF-A   1:36.39   135   '10   560 / 1609   Motor Trend
9.   Audi R8 GT   1:36.39   135   '10   560 / 1520   Motor Trend
10.   Porsche 911 GT3 RS   1:36.77   134   '10   450 / 1400   Motor Trend
11.   Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package   1:37.40   133   '11   512 / 1394   Motor Trend
12.   Porsche 911 Turbo   1:37.80   133   '09   500 / 1570   Car and Driver
13.   Mercedes SLS AMG   1:38.82   131   '10   571 / 1620   Motor Trend
14.   Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS   1:39.50   130   '12   446 / 1573   Road and Track

And that is the LS edition (Laguna Seca) Which is not the 302 Boss.

Which includes a standard Torsen limited-slip rear differential, and revised suspension tuning.

So, that's a different animal than the 302 Boss.

In bold, I have highlighted the more current models of the cars you say the Mustang 302 Boss was dominating.

bradistani · « **Reply #96 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:17:49 PM »

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #97 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:27:19 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on November 21, 2011, 05:05:00 PM

Here's the full list.

1.   Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR   1:33.92   138   '08   600 / 1536   Chris Winkler
2.   Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package   1:34.43   137   '11   512 / 1394   Motor Trend
3.   Devon GTX   1:35.08   136   0   659 / 0   Devon
4.   Porsche 911 GT2 RS   1:35.56   136   '10   620 / 1370   Excellence
5.   Chevrolet Corvette ZR1   1:35.80   135   '08   647 / 1530   Motor Trend
6.   Ferrari 458 Italia   1:36.22   135   '09   570 / 1485   Motor Trend
7.   Nissan GT-R   1:36.35   135   '11   530 / 1736   Motor Trend
8.   Lexus LF-A   1:36.39   135   '10   560 / 1609   Motor Trend
9.   Audi R8 GT   1:36.39   135   '10   560 / 1520   Motor Trend
10.   Porsche 911 GT3 RS   1:36.77   134   '10   450 / 1400   Motor Trend
11.   Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package   1:37.40   133   '11   512 / 1394   Motor Trend
12.   Porsche 911 Turbo   1:37.80   133   '09   500 / 1570   Car and Driver
13.   Mercedes SLS AMG   1:38.82   131   '10   571 / 1620   Motor Trend
14.   Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS   1:39.50   130   '12   446 / 1573   Road and Track

And that is the LS edition (Laguna Seca) Which is not the 302 Boss.

Which includes a standard Torsen limited-slip rear differential, and revised suspension tuning.

So, that's a different animal than the 302 Boss.

In bold, I have highlighted the more current models of the cars you say the Mustang 302 Boss was dominating.

You missed the point entirely. You claim it will suck. It's a very competitive car, especially for the price. Find a car in that $ range that will beat it.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #98 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:30:34 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on November 21, 2011, 05:27:19 PM

You missed the point entirely. You claim it will suck. It's a very competitive car, especially for the price. Find a car in that $ range that will beat it.

I guess it depends on the cost.

If the rumor is true and it's 40k, then sure, but I doubt it will be that cheap to be honest.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #99 on:** November 21, 2011, 05:36:19 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on November 21, 2011, 05:30:34 PM

I guess it depends on the cost.

If the rumor is true and it's 40k, then sure, but I doubt it will be that cheap to be honest.

Not sure what the US cost is, but up here in Canada the loaded Boss (non laguna Seca) MSRP's for around $52,000. Some delaers are juicing the MSRP's on the Lagunas a bit.