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Middle-aged natural?
« on: November 30, 2011, 04:24:29 AM »
Found this dude over on Dr. Darden's site. His stats are 5'10" 186 7.5% and his arms measure in at 16 3/8" inches. I don't buy that he's natural, but he looks great anyways, especially for being in his mid-50's :o
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 04:36:11 AM »
dr darden also believed (or claimed to believe) that viator and the mentzers were clean when working with a. jones because he insisted on it, and they 'gave their word' they wouldnt juice. 

oliva was given special dispensation by jones, however lol.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 04:54:17 AM »
this dr Darden should be lined up and shot in the back off the neck,..... filthy liar!
lying to people like that...

take a look at this guys physique, look at his shoulders!!!!
full capped and meaty!
and then look at his midsection, midsection is thick, but very very tight!
thick does not mean wide btw... thick , good thick.
chest also thick and meaty.... hgh written all over it!!!!!
also low dose test, and some other anabolics.

a dude in his 50's will never look like this natural, NEVER EVER EVER!!!
test levels @ 50 are very low
hgh levels @ 50 are very low
that means low anabolism...... this guy is on a very decent trt/hrt program...

fucking liars!
i do not understand this need to lie....!
even with drugs, dude looks good, why be embarresed to say yes i use hgh , yes i use test....
everybody wants to believe they are some kind of genetic marvel i guess..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 05:34:44 AM »
Juiced to the gills.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 05:36:52 AM »
low doses, but hormonized without a doubt.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 05:39:12 AM »
natural my ass
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 05:46:29 AM »
This was his 7 week progress report after following Dr. Darden's training advices.

"After 7 weeks of training, Ray Carona has gained significant size on his arms. His right arm now measures 16-3/8" and his left is 16-1/4".

Ray Carona and his wife, Georgie, visited me on May 13th. Just as I suspected, Ray had added to his exercises and subtracted from his recovery time.

Still, he managed to build 5 (actually 4.88) pounds of muscle. His percentage of body fat dropped from 8.9 to 7.5, as his body weight rose from 184 to 186.5 pounds.

Furthermore, after 7 weeks, Ray's upper arms increased by 7/16" (right) and 5/8" (left), and his forearms by 5/8" right) and 1/2" (left)."

So after 7 weeks, his bodyfat went down from 8.9% to 7.5%, and bodyweight went up from 184 to 186.5, and his arms went up 7/16" (right) and 5/8" (left).

Here's his starting pic.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 05:50:19 AM »
Probably on test and hgh, considers it HRT, and himself natural.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 05:54:40 AM »
According to Darden Viator was clean during the Colorado experiment where he gained 63 pounds of muscle in 30 days.  ::)
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 05:56:10 AM »
54 years old and looking great..

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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 05:57:40 AM »
Quote from: TrueGrit on November 30, 2011, 05:56:10 AM
54 years old and looking great..


more believable...
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 06:03:03 AM »
If he is natural he should start with the good stuff right now and enter the 2012 Masters Olympia. Awsome genetic potential! Easy victory...
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 06:09:00 AM »
How long has he been working out?  If he's been training 30 years, he's not far off a natural physique. 
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 07:13:06 AM »
Looks very good for a man in his 50s, natural or not.

Not, in this case....
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 07:20:54 AM »
Already added him on schmoebook.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 07:22:09 AM »
Quote from: dj181 on November 30, 2011, 04:24:29 AM
Found this dude over on Dr. Darden's site. His stats are 5'10" 186 7.5% and his arms measure in at 16 3/8" inches. I don't buy that he's natural, but he looks great anyways, especially for being in his mid-50's :o

Looking good muscledaddy!  Not at all natural but...

Quote from: Jadeveon Clowney on April 10, 2011, 06:47:09 PM
No one gives a shit apart from you and some other people with no lives.  Must be nice - being 45 or 50 or however old you are and having your life revolve around "owning" random internet posters. 

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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2011, 07:24:15 AM »
Lifetime naturals can mold a physique after many years through diet and training, no ?

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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 08:20:19 AM »
The guy is definitely juiced but he looks great for his age so good for him  :D.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 08:34:55 AM »
Old as hell. When you're that old, you don't have muscle without copious amounts of hormones.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 08:45:40 AM »
I`m not saying this guy`s natural, but a buddy of mine years ago,asked me to write him up a diet for a contest he was thinking of doing (his first one ever),after following the diet for 16 weeks he looked incredible..........neve r took any juice,incredibly thick pecs,great quads,abs/intercostals,arms..........needed more delt roundness,and calves, but kicked a lot of ass in natty shows.

What made him look so good is over 20 years of consistant training, eating right, and living clean!!

It`s not an imposibilty for this guy to be clean at all.

Not everybody uses gear, and some are genetically blessed and totally dedicated.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 08:46:18 AM »
Oh yeah,my buddy was right around 40 years old at the time.
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 01:15:18 PM »
Quote from: wes on November 30, 2011, 08:46:18 AM
Oh yeah,my buddy was right around 40 years old at the time.
Wes,  40 is not mid 50... the guy in this thread is mid 50's.....!!!
second , prob your buddy was lying to you... ;D were you with him 24/7???
people lie a lot you know....


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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 01:21:05 PM »


he must be a stock broker... all the cooworkers between him and his boss were probably fired and he got couple a million dollars in his pocket and now he is living his life, good for him  8)
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 01:21:25 PM »
Pecs are too swollen for a natural...ah what the hell, let him pop some... :D
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Re: Middle-aged natural?
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2011, 02:15:18 PM »
Quote from: TrueGrit on November 30, 2011, 05:56:10 AM
54 years old and looking great..



Harrison Ford looks good!
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