another thing juicyjay...
i've come to the conclusion that 5x5 routines worked best for me (being natural) probably because it's not a lot of volume but pretty high frequency so strength responds to it
would i keep doing a routine like this and keep piling on the weights or do you need to train the "milos way" if you want to get the most out of these juices?
(milos way = training like a "bodybuilder" not a brute strength man)
for me, i am naturally an ectomorph. it is very hard for me to put on muscle, but it's easier than hell to stay lean. now, i don't know what your body type is, but for me, drop sets work better than anything else for nice and steady strength gains, insane pumps, and growth. i've trie hiit, dc training, high volume, low volume, high frequency, low freq, etc. for me, i drop set everything. for example, i'll deadlift 465x10, strip the weight down to 405, then rep it out as many times as i can with no rest other than the time it takes to strip off the weight, then i'll drop it down again to 365 and do the same thing. i do that for every exercise. i do 3 exercises per body part and 3 sets per body part, now i do have some lagging parts i'm trying to bring up, so i do 4 to 5 sets for those and use some different techniques. but you get the jist of it...you also want to use PERFECT fprm on EVERY exercise. if you cannot lift the weight properly with no swinging, bouncing, lack of a full range of motion, etc, then you're lifting too much weight. you should be able to feel the muscle contract and squeeze VERY hard, you should almost literally be able to feel the fibers. it's hard to explain, but once you do it right, you'll know.