Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?

[Wiggs]

but, but, but he said he only used under a gram of test a week and couldn't believe the dosages guys run now! are you saying he lied about his cycle??

 

[QuakerOats]

If they were it was just steroids...this was before escilene in Haney's era...Levrone, Flex, both escilene abusers... Please post me a picture or video of him outside of drug free Mr. O of his mediocre arms....I'll be waiting....and there is nothing wrong with his legs or any of the guys legs of that era.

Clearly the bodybuilders of today's legs are much too large and way out of proportion...These guys look like clowns as they waddle to get around to try and do everyday things...Blown out quads caused this...It looks stupid and frog like...People have been brainwashed into thinking these giant legs are awesome.  When you look at Haney's quads when he posed they were in proportioned with the rest of his physique....Watch any video or post any pic of him as Mr. O.

i still consider site injections "putting something in them" i dont care if its test, EQ, Tren, synthol, whatever, and guys have been putting stuff directly into the muscle for decades.

[NarcissisticDeity]

No it's pretty much fact...1993 was due to upping the dosage black socks photos in offseasn at 275 and hard as nails...no that has nothing to do with upping the dosage or adding something others dont have or know about. In 92 Dorian was low 240s and won his first Mr. O. (242 I believe) and in 93 he was 257 i believe.  Back then putting on 15lbs of stage ready muscle in one year at the Olympia level was unfathomable...So yes, he def upped the dosage.

Not really and when asked if the B&W photos represented the first time he used GH he said " No " he was using it in 1992.

The discrepancy in size from 1993 and 1992 wasn't from drugs it was from him realizing he was at a point precontest where he was just dieting away pure muscle in an attempt to get ' harder ' which he wasn't. Which he realized and corrected for 1993 hence no ' new ' muscle just muscle that wasn't dieted away

[Wiggs]

i still consider site injections "putting something in them" i dont care if its test, EQ, Tren, synthol, whatever, and guys have been putting stuff directly into the muscle for decades.

Dude, where else are they going to put it at that level? I personally believe that even if steroid is injected directly into the muscle it will not cause significant localized growth vs. a glute shot...There is no proof and if there there is a difference, not noticable to the eye.

[Wiggs]

Not really and when asked if the B&W photos represented the first time he used GH he said " No " he was using it in 1992.

The discrepancy in size from 1993 and 1992 wasn't from drugs it was from him realizing he was at a point precontest where he was just dieting away pure muscle in an attempt to get ' harder ' which he wasn't.

GH was since the 80s in some form Haney used it no doubt this was when Cadavar Hormone was used alot more... ....I don't buy that bullshit story and can't believe you do...It's clear as clean water to me that he used insulina and upped everything else to put that muscle on...

Just as Ronnie looked shitty in 02 and was 242 but nutz in 03 wasn't just because he dieted down too low in 02...It's very clear in 03 he was abusing insulin. All the signs are there...much wider waist, no more rock hard condition, offseason face on contest day...Dorian wasn't abusing it like Ronnie that's a 10 year difference 93-03 but it got the desired results and Ronnie went overboard.

[apply85]

site injection = synthol to me

[SilverSpoon]

Had Jeff King been able to compete in the Mr. Olympia, would Haney won all of those Sandows?

Personally, I don't think so.

[Wiggs]

site injection = synthol to me

Please expand..no pun intended.

[Swlabr]

Lee Haney, unlike most bodybuilders nowadays, had class. My favourite bodybuilder, hands down.

[wild willie]

The only bodypart Jeff King would beat Lee Haney with would be legs......Period!!!

[Wiggs]

Had Jeff King been able to compete in the Mr. Olympia, would Haney won all of those Sandows?

Personally, I don't think so.

Could you please tell me more of this fella?  I've heard of him and seen shots in the past.  What's the full story?

[Chick]

Had Jeff King been able to compete in the Mr. Olympia, would Haney won all of those Sandows?

Personally, I don't think so.

Lol

Perhaps had Jeff king had he balls to try and win the Nationals, we might have seen such a showdown....

[Wiggs]

Come on Bob lead us in the right direction you were around back then. You don't have to confirm or deny rumors but knowing what you know about both competitors and the supplementation around back then, could Haney have made it to 10 or would 93 Yates derail him?...Let say all what I said is true and Haney makes a different decision.

[QuakerOats]

Could you please tell me more of this fella?  I've heard of him and seen shots in the past.  What's the full story?

he lived for awhile here in STL and trained under George Turner, theres a lot of stories about his training and physique around here.

[QuakerOats]

awesome bodybuilder.

[Swlabr]

Jeff King's neck is the subject of many an epic poem...

[QuakerOats]

Jeff King's neck is the subject of many an epic poem...

his legs were even freakier.

[Nirvana]

Come on Bob lead us in the right direction you were around back then. You don't have to confirm or deny rumors but knowing what you know about both competitors and the supplementation around back then, could Haney have made it to 10 or would 93 Yates derail him?...Let say all what I said is true and Haney makes a different decision.

 

Drugs are just the finishing touch.  The reason Ronald was bigger in 03 than in 02 was purely due to more calories and heavy training.  Same thing with Dorian, he must have trained harder and ate more to get bigger from 92 to 93.  I doubt either one used steroids and if so, probably just enough for a finishing touch.

[Wiggs]

 

lol

[Wiggs]

Why'd not go pro? What is Chick talking about?

[arce1988]

damn bob

[QuakerOats]

Why'd not go pro? What is Chick talking about?

the "rumor" here is that he had a problem with Weider and wouldnt compete in the IFBB.

[NarcissisticDeity]

GH was since the 80s in some form Haney used it no doubt this was when Cadavar Hormone was used alot more... ....I don't buy that bullshit story and can't believe you do...It's clear as clean water to me that he used insulina and upped everything else to put that muscle on...

Just as Ronnie looked shitty in 02 and was 242 but nutz in 03 wasn't just because he dieted down too low in 02...It's very clear in 03 he was abusing insulin. All the signs are there...much wider waist, no more rock hard condition, offseason face on contest day...Dorian wasn't abusing it like Ronnie that's a 10 year difference 93-03 but it got the desired results and Ronnie went overboard.

These pics are from 1992 , he already had the size , he was just losing it all dieting

[Chick]

Come on Bob lead us in the right direction you were around back then. You don't have to confirm or deny rumors but knowing what you know about both competitors and the supplementation around back then, could Haney have made it to 10 or would 93 Yates derail him?...Let say all what I said is true and Haney makes a different decision.

Vey possible....especially since Haney had the edge in terms of being the incumbent champ...

Bigger  question to me is whether Arnold would have won 11 had he kept competing, or if Haney would have finally ended HIS streak?

[Chick]

the "rumor" here is that he had a problem with Weider and wouldnt compete in the IFBB.

His " problem" was that he didn't feel as though he needed to qualify as a pro in the IFBB because he beat a bunch of second rate BBers in the AAU....