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Re: too many junkies and juicer posts on G&O
« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2011, 05:23:13 PM »
Stay natural guyz. stay free of tendonitis (  ;D very nasty little complaint that can eat into your real life  :-* )

drug cycles on the steroid board, please!!!

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Re: Juiceposts on the G&O - is Getbig turning into a steroid board?
« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2011, 05:25:15 PM »
Bonobo23, how many posts have you accumulated so far with all your gimmicks? It must be nearing 100k, surely?

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Re: Juiceposts on the G&O - is Getbig turning into a steroid board?
« Reply #102 on: December 15, 2011, 05:25:48 PM »
tendonitis.............. .......red herring again ???

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Re: too many junkies and juicer posts on G&O
« Reply #103 on: December 15, 2011, 05:26:13 PM »
you're the lonesome one .. but you can't understand why



what the hell happened to this dude, did he have some drastic gyno surgery or something?

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Re: Juiceposts on the G&O - is Getbig turning into a steroid board?
« Reply #104 on: December 15, 2011, 05:26:27 PM »
tendonitis.....................red herring again ???

I was thinking the same thing

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Re: too many junkies and juicer posts on G&O
« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2011, 05:27:22 PM »
i agree, don't do drugs, ever. drugs are immoral and bad for you! everyone just needs to learn the proper way to nutrient timing around anabolic windows and manipulating growth principles via BCAA supplementation along with creatine.

have you checked out the great list of products by muscletech? that's all the pros use and look at how big they are! winners don't use drugs.  

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Re: Juiceposts on the G&O - is Getbig turning into a steroid board?
« Reply #106 on: December 15, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »
i agree, don't do drugs, ever. drugs are immoral and bad for you! everyone just needs to learn the proper way to nutrient timing around anabolic windows and manipulating growth principles via BCAA supplementation along with creatine.

have you checked out the great list of products by muscletech? that's all the pros use and look at how big they are! winners don't use drugs. 
Not to worry,it`s just Alex,tendonitis,Fallsview,and DeltsaForce trying to be funny.

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Re: too many junkies and juicer posts on G&O
« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2011, 05:32:08 PM »
what the hell happened to this dude, did he have some drastic gyno surgery or something?

she had a double mastectomy


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Re: Juiceposts on the G&O - is Getbig turning into a steroid board?
« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2011, 05:32:39 PM »
Not to worry,it`s just Alex,tendonitis,Fallsview,and DeltsaForce trying to be funny.

as long as he chooses the path of Christ then he's A-Ok in my book  ;)

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Re: Juiceposts on the G&O - is Getbig turning into a steroid board?
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2011, 05:33:01 PM »
6 members have posted in this thread so far,but in reality 12 members are present.

Things ain`t always what they seem.  :)

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Re: too many junkies and juicer posts on G&O
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2011, 06:06:13 PM »
if this is alex then what he is doing is kinda sorta some strange form of reverse psycology

See, DeltsaForce has always been rumored to be a Alex account and Fallsview has always been a heavily rumored alex account

So, in this thread Deltsaforce makes reference to the "Stay Positive" line because he wants us to think that "OMG- it can't be alex- why would he be to stupid to make reference to his fallsview account"

Reality is (and most likely) that alex is just making reference to one of his other accounts thinking that we buy that alex isn't that dumb to make reference to his fallsview account






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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2011, 11:01:18 PM »
If you look at pics of Haney from 1983 Olympia and compare it to 1984 Olympia, he made a lot of progress. It was around that time that recombinant Growth Hormone came on the bodybuilding scene. That's why when Bob Paris won the Nationals and the Universe, he was much bigger than he was the year before. A guy called Doctor Kerr was making a lot of money back then giving the athletes GH. So it's around 83-84 that GH really started to be used in bodybuilding. Before that, there wasn't really a ton of bodybuilders using the Crescormin (cadaver based) Gh. There was already news that short kids treated with it had gotten Kreutzfeld Jacob syndrome..which is basically mad cow disease from the cadaver GH..

I was trippin on this thread wiggs started too.
It was widely known back in the day haney was on GH from 83.
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Re: Thought this was interesting...
« Reply #112 on: December 16, 2011, 07:22:43 AM »
If they were it was just steroids...this was before escilene in Haney's era...Levrone, Flex, both escilene abusers... Please post me a picture or video of him outside of drug free Mr. O of his mediocre arms....I'll be waiting....and there is nothing wrong with his legs or any of the guys legs of that era.

Clearly the bodybuilders of today's legs are much too large and way out of proportion...These guys look like clowns as they waddle to get around to try and do everyday things...Blown out quads caused this...It looks stupid and frog like...People have been brainwashed into thinking these giant legs are awesome.  When you look at Haney's quads when he posed they were in proportioned with the rest of his physique....Watch any video or post any pic of him as Mr. O.

great post

today legs are out of proportion

münzer and strydom s are where proportion turne idiotic beyond

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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #113 on: December 16, 2011, 08:11:35 AM »
What is this horseshit, Haney beating Yates in 92 and 93?...... Not a chance in hell, Yates legs  where way bigger and in 92 is when Yates came out with his trade mark super striated christmas tree, and 93?... now that's just being dumb to think 93,Flex would've beat Haney. Haney did the smart move and quit while he was ahead and did not tarnish his legacy

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Re: Thought this was interesting...
« Reply #114 on: December 16, 2011, 10:31:07 AM »
No it's pretty much fact...1993 was due to upping the dosage black socks photos in offseasn at 275 and hard as nails...no that has nothing to do with upping the dosage or adding something others dont have or know about. In 92 Dorian was low 240s and won his first Mr. O. (242 I believe) and in 93 he was 257 i believe.  Back then putting on 15lbs of stage ready muscle in one year at the Olympia level was unfathomable...So yes, he def upped the dosage.
Yates didnt diet away muscle in 93. that is the 15lbs you are talking about. hope this helps.

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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #115 on: December 16, 2011, 11:50:44 AM »
I dont think there is any way Haney could have beat this...
Just dont think he had the drive or the will to go to where Dorian was willing.



dorian took away the gayness of posing..............

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Re: Thought this was interesting...
« Reply #116 on: December 16, 2011, 11:53:55 AM »
Yates didnt diet away muscle in 93. that is the 15lbs you are talking about. hope this helps.

I never said he did. ND did.  I said he upped the dosage and probably added slin.
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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #117 on: December 16, 2011, 12:30:16 PM »
What is this horseshit, Haney beating Yates in 92 and 93?...... Not a chance in hell, Yates legs  where way bigger and in 92 is when Yates came out with his trade mark super striated christmas tree, and 93?... now that's just being dumb to think 93,Flex would've beat Haney. Haney did the smart move and quit while he was ahead and did not tarnish his legacy

Dorian does not compare well Haney's shape was much too superior, rounder muscle bellies better proportions.  Watch the video...
lol @ flex beating Haney.  Flex was 215 and Haney was 245 and and inch taller.  Flex would never ever had beaten Haney he was too small. 93 is the only year Dorian might have had a chance.  91 Haney beats 92 Yates. You gotta remember also, Haney would have improved as supplementation changed. By 93 Haney would have been 255-260.  Dorian would never have outsized him. Haney comes from better stock, he can put more muscle on and still maintain his great shape. Dorian while great and legendary was kind of boxy....not Cutler boxy...but boxy.

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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #118 on: December 16, 2011, 02:14:55 PM »
Let me explain to you how bodybuilding works Wiggs, sure it's nice to have "what if's" and it is cool to discuss scenerio's but here are some facts that would've made it impossible for Haney to have beat Yates, In 1990 Haney was trailing, that's right "behind" to Labrada and had the fight of his life, but nevertheless pulled it off, now in 91 it was close, can't remember the point spread but it was very close.

 in 92 Yates had easily packed on 10 pound, although on paper only showed 2 pound gained, he was drier and far more striated from top to bottom and the Christmas tree had a gazziliion striations, ham-glutes where granite and improved on his upper chest and shoulders, so tell me Wiggs if it was a close call in the judges eye in 91, how can you claim a 91 Haney would have beaten a 92 Dorian When Dorian improved by at least 10%, common sense the judges would have favoured Yates for the simple fact that they where only a hair apart the year before, again we are discussing facts not opinions- could Haney beats Yates in 92 possibly( if he presented a new package) but you lose credibility when you say a 91 Haney would've beat a 92 Yates, not 1 judge on the Olympia panel would agree with you based on the facts I stated above

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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #119 on: December 16, 2011, 02:31:58 PM »
Little known fact

Lee Haney has six fingers on his left hand, however he was great at hiding it, opting for closed hand poses and careful positioning of his limbs on stage.

See the below pics.





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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #120 on: December 16, 2011, 02:38:07 PM »
Dorian does not compare well Haney's shape was much too superior, rounder muscle bellies better proportions.  Watch the video...
lol @ flex beating Haney.  Flex was 215 and Haney was 245 and and inch taller.  Flex would never ever had beaten Haney he was too small. 93 is the only year Dorian might have had a chance.  91 Haney beats 92 Yates. You gotta remember also, Haney would have improved as supplementation changed. By 93 Haney would have been 255-260.  Dorian would never have outsized him. Haney comes from better stock, he can put more muscle on and still maintain his great shape. Dorian while great and legendary was kind of boxy....not Cutler boxy...but boxy.





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Dorian does not compare well Haney's shape was much too superior, rounder muscle bellies better proportions.  Watch the video..

This superior shape isn't an advantage it wasn't in 91 when Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round , and it wasn't an advantage when Dorian beat , Flex ( who in my opinion kills Haney in shape ) , Shawn , Kevin and whomever else

Flex 1993 would beat Haney , I don't care what he weighs and neither do the judges. It's all about how he appears , the illusion of size and Flex was great at that

I personally think if Haney showed up looking the way he did in 91 at the 1992 Mr Olympia and Dorian showed up the same shape he did , it would be a closer contest and Haney could squeak out another win over him , by 1993 Haney would not stand a chance against him under no circumstances

Yates was so confident by 1993 that he called Haney out in Flex magazine and told him to compete in 1993 and he would beat him ( not arrogance but confidence because at this point no one knew what Yates looked like ) he said he respected Haney and just wanted a chance to beat him in return

I always thought Haney retired because he beat Arnold's record and had nothing else to prove , but if you watched his acceptance speech at the conclusion of the 1991 Mr Olympia , he said this was the first year he peaked ON the day of the contest and considering that he knows how to peak now he would compete for a couple more years , needless to say Dorian influenced his decision to retire


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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #121 on: December 16, 2011, 02:42:38 PM »
haney used hgh

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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #122 on: December 16, 2011, 03:09:42 PM »
You guys have to remember that Haney for years was the biggest guy on stage - dominating a field of 'smaller' bodybuilders. Some would say Labrada was a legit threat on a couple of occasions. I would say that Haney dominated, rightfully so, and that Labrada didn't have the stature or structure to beat even a slightly off Haney. I think taht kind of arguments more rest on people comparing the champ with his former (or later) best rather than with his competitiors. We've seen the same happen with Ronnie and Dorian. Take 2001 for example, being a bit off some argued he should have lost to Cutler. I think people get a bit biased 'at the moment' due to the champ having been better at an earlier point in time. Seing the pics and movies from 2001, Ronnie was a legit winner. Just imagine him showing up like in his 2001 shape in 2007... Same goes with Dorian, in 94 and in 96...and in 97. A deservedly winner in all years - though not at his best.

Anyway, I would suspect that Haney, for many years, only did what was necessary to win. He really didn't have any real threats before Yates showed up at the NOC in 91. Of course that made Haney give a little extra which was really noticable in the Mr.O that year. The close race was perhaps also due to the fat that there finally was a guy that almost had Haney's size and back. Watching pics and vids, I find it strange that Yates beat Haney in the muscularity round. Had Haney continued and competed in 92, I am sure he would have improved from his improved 91 performance. Whether he could have continued in 93 - and improved even further is impossible to say. Yates, at least, made significant improvements.

I agree with a lot of ND's opinions, but I disagree regarding Flex. Flex looks excellent in some pics from 93 - by himself. But, in comparisons he looks kind of narrow. Just look at him next to Labrada - being dwarfed (lol). Imagine Flex next to Haney.

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Re: Thought this was interesting... Did Lee Haney ever do steroids?
« Reply #123 on: December 16, 2011, 03:11:56 PM »
In a line-up....few could stand next to Haney...

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Re: Thought this was interesting...
« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2011, 03:23:31 PM »
no dude...everything points otherwise...Haney was getting better every year...He admitted he finally learned how to peak on his last show and he was only 31....He would have crushed Flex, Levrone and everyone else the only real challenge would have been Yates...Well never know but very fun to  discuss.
Always was a Haney Fan however you have to remember Lee had been Competing a real long time bye 1991.... in fact since the late 1970s, the fact that he did actually Peak in 1991 is Debatable as the years 1984, 1986 and 1987 have been thrashed over the years many times as to just what was Lee's all time best shape, Realistically to suggest he would of Kept on improving from 1991 on is Debatable in many accounts the main one being his bodyweight increase @ the exspence and very real possibility that his Gut would be expanding more and more taking away from his Incredible V Taper and his Arms which were becoming more and more borderline the larger he got etc etc.

Imo i doubt seriously Lee would of got any better...as in the best we saw of him in 1984, 86, 87 and 91 was going to be his best due to the points i made above, point is the emergence of any new era in any endeavor will like it or not super-ceed the predecessor on one account and ONE account only........Change.