Brady Stomps Tebow

[240 is Back]

which QB will Broncos draft in the first round "Just to grab the best available player" or "to deliver a fair training camp"?

[MCWAY]

Rarely does that happen. Very rarely.

Like I said. Let's have this discussion after the game. One of us will be right and the other will be wrong.

I am putting it out there that Denver will lose. What's your prediction?

Do you have the balls to bet that god will favor Tebow?

(I ask that because we all know you are one of those kooky Christians who just "happens" to back Tebow.

It happens more often than you care to admit, as that list was hardly exhaustive.

I said it earlier that Pittsburgh is favored to win and they should....IF they play the way they normally do (not the way they played today against Cleveland).

My being a Christian has zilch to do with my comments about Tebow. It appears YOU are one of those kooky atheists/skeptics that rails on Tebow, because of his faith.

He's been told his entire career that he can't make it in the NFL. So far, he's 7-4 as a starter this year and he just led his team to a division title.

[wild willie]

Tim Tebow clearly had his best game today! 

6/22  Completetion    60 Yards   2.7 Average   0 Touchdown's   1 Interception. 

Come on Big Doug.....what about that awful Detroit Defense.....6 friggin toughdowns.....no wonder suh didn't make the pro bowl.....Flynn sliced them up.....Lions will get drilled by the saints!!!

[Doug_Steele]

Come on Big Doug.....what about that awful Detroit Defense.....6 friggin toughdowns.....no wonder suh didn't make the pro bowl.....Flynn sliced them up.....Lions will get drilled by the saints!!!

THIS

I am satisfied with just making the playoffs.   

[tu_holmes]

It happens more often than you care to admit, as that list was hardly exhaustive.

I said it earlier that Pittsburgh is favored to win and they should....IF they play the way they normally do (not the way they played today against Cleveland).

My being a Christian has zilch to do with my comments about Tebow. It appears YOU are one of those kooky atheists/skeptics that rails on Tebow, because of his faith.

He's been told his entire career that he can't make it in the NFL. So far, he's 7-4 as a starter this year and he just led his team to a division title.

He didn't lead anything. His defense did.

I love the kids work ethic so don't play the "athiestic" cArd with me.

The kid is a good football player... Just not a good QB.

Read my posts.

Trying to put that on me would be a big mistake on your part.

[Doug_Steele]

Come on Big Doug.....what about that awful Detroit Defense.....6 friggin toughdowns.....no wonder suh didn't make the pro bowl.....Flynn sliced them up.....Lions will get drilled by the saints!!!

And while living in Florida, all i heard was "Tebow is jesus and can do no wrong." Florida fans are very much like O$U fans, you either like them or hate them and i hate "them"

Tebow is a great player, but not a QB! I believe in god but how many damn times can you turn on the T.V. and....THERE he is...24/7 Fore fucks sake.

Tebow is a GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER BUT NOT A GOOD QB!

I do not hate "him" but Tebow as a QB - yes, very much!

[MCWAY]

He didn't lead anything. His defense did.

I love the kids work ethic so don't play the "athiestic" cArd with me.

The kid is a good football player... Just not a good QB.

Read my posts.

Trying to put that on me would be a big mistake on your part.

The Broncos had the SAME defense with Kyle Orton at QB. How did that work for them?

Answer: 1-4

They gave Tebow the start, thinking the season was LOST. Instead, the Broncos ended up winning the division. Even the defense's stats were much improved with Tebow at QB.

No matter how you spin it, without Tebow, the Broncos DO NOT WIN the AFC West.

[tu_holmes]

The Broncos had the SAME defense with Kyle Orton at QB. How did that work for them?

Answer: 1-4

They gave Tebow the start, thinking the season was LOST. Instead, the Broncos ended up winning the division. Even the defense's stats were much improved with Tebow at QB.

No matter how you spin it, without Tebow, the Broncos DO NOT WIN the AFC West.

Orton would have given them the same record I believe.

Didn't Orton JUST beat them and a perfect green bay team?

[MCWAY]

Orton would have given them the same record I believe.

Didn't Orton JUST beat them and a perfect green bay team?

You act as if Orton just got to the team a year ago. He was in Denver for THREE YEARS (the Broncos traded for him and dumped Jay Cutler).

Had Orton done a better job, the Broncos wouldn't have been 1-4 and Orton wouldn't have been benched for Tebow in the first place.

Tebow takes the helm (a second year guy); the Broncos go 7-4 and WIN THEIR DIVISION.

[blacken700]

just curious did you watch the game yesterday,who do you think made the better throws

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[MCWAY]

just curious did you watch the game yesterday,who do you think made the better throws

I did watch the game. Orton has a better game. But, SO WHAT!! I hope you're not implying that the Broncos would have won the AFC West, had Orton remained the starter.

Orton is 3-5 as a starter this year. Tebow is 7-4.

Had Orton played better against the Raiders and beaten them, the Chiefs would have won the division by beating Denver.

All the Chiefs and Orton could do is play "spoiler" (yet, they didn't even do that, because of the Raiders losing; Denver ended up winning the division anyway).

[blacken700]

your forgetting that the bronco started using the triple option offense when tebow became a starter and for the nfl defences that's a new ball game.took time for them to get use to it.but like anything else there's ways to beat it and now the blueprints out there, so now he pretty well fu@ked unless he can learn to throw more accurately.and if you watched the game yesterday you can see he doesn't have what it takes to put the ball in the tight window that you have to in the nfl

[MCWAY]

your forgetting that the bronco started using the triple option offense when tebow became a starter and for the nfl defences that's a new ball game.took time for them to get use to it.but like anything else there's ways to beat it and now the blueprints out there, so now he pretty well fu@ked unless he can learn to throw more accurately.and if you watched the game yesterday you can see he doesn't have what it takes to put the ball in the tight window that you have to in the nfl

I'm not forgetting anything (and PLEASE get some grammar lessons, dude; it's "You're" not "your"). I've said that he needs to work on his mechanics and that he hasn't played a full season yet. He needs work, no question about it.

The Broncos got smart. They know they can work on Tebow's mechanics later. This is a win-now league and if Denver can win with Tebow running the option (which they did in 7 of 11 games), then that's what you do.

I've also said HE NEEDS HELP. How many of Tebow's low-completions games have been due (in part) to his wideouts DROPPING THE BALL, despite Tebow putting the ball right on the money?

Get him a DeSean Jackson, someone with some speed who can actually CATCH (along with working on his mechanics) and LOOK OUT!!!

A good tight end would help the cause as well.

[blacken700]

elway is not going to keep him he'll be gone by the middle of next year,just like your man cain ,and most of the incompletions are from the ball not being put in the right spot,a great receiver is not going to make a difference if he can't get the ball to him.oh your or you're who really gives a fu#k

[MCWAY]

elway is not going to keep him he'll be gone by the middle of next year,just like your man cain ,and most of the incompletions are from the ball not being put in the right spot,a great receiver is not going to make a difference if he can't get the ball to him.oh your or you're who really gives a fu#k

Elway has already stated that Tebow isn't going anywhere. Tebow needs work in the offseason and, with an actual offseason (instead of a lockout), he'll have the chance to improve.

Tebow DOES need to improve his accuracy. His receivers ALSO need to catch the ball when he hits them. His wideouts have dropped a number of passes (some of which would have been scores). But, ignoring facts is common place for you; so one should hardly be shocked at that.

The simple fact is the Broncos WOULDN'T HAVE WON THE DIVISION in the first place, had it not been for Tebow's heroics earlier in the season.

They were 1-4, dead in the water, with everyone all but handing the division to San Diego or Oakland. Who replaced Orton and took Denver from 1-4 to 8-5? TEBOW!

[blacken700]

he doesn't have what it takes to be an nfl qb,now if you put him at fullback he would be good.it shouldn’t always take magic,  a nfl quarterback needs to make the basic passes before the magic is needed

[The Abdominal Snoman]

which QB will Broncos draft in the first round "Just to grab the best available player" or "to deliver a fair training camp"?

Forget the draft, Elway is gonna go after Green Bay's Matt Flynn. Talk about a guy with some serious talent. Flynn looks like he is gonna be a top notch Quarter Back in the league. What he did in Green Bays last game was unbelievable. Wouldn't be surprised in the Jets make a run at Flynn either. Watching Flynn in that game may just make him a better suitor for most teams ahead of Andrew Luck.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

A good tight end would help the cause as well.

If Tebow became that Tight End and Denver signed Green Bay's M. Flynn, they may have a chance to go deep into the playoffs in 2012

[King Shizzo]

Forget the draft, Elway is gonna go after Green Bay's Matt Flynn. Talk about a guy with some serious talent. Flynn looks like he is gonna be a top notch Quarter Back in the league. What he did in Green Bays last game was unbelievable. Wouldn't be surprised in the Jets make a run at Flynn either. Watching Flynn in that game may just make him a better suitor for most teams ahead of Andrew Luck.

Lol, you should be the Dolphins Gm.  Shitty teams always pick the qb of the week, and think they will be the next franchise quarterback.  If I was a team in need of a qb, I would offer a couple first rounders to try and trade for Peyton Manning.  If healthy, he has got three or four good years left.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Lol, you should be the Dolphins Gm.  Shitty teams always pick the qb of the week, and think they will be the next franchise quarterback.  If I was a team in need of a qb, I would offer a couple first rounders to try and trade for Peyton Manning.  If healthy, he has got three or four good years left.

Did you watch the GB game? That dude has some serious talent. Calm in the pocket and a quick release. Everything that Tebow isn't. I agree on Peyton but he is one hit away from never playing again. That is if he isn't already done.

[MCWAY]

he doesn't have what it takes to be an nfl qb,now if you put him at fullback he would be good.it shouldn’t always take magic,  a nfl quarterback needs to make the basic passes before the magic is needed

He IS an NFL quarterback, who just got his team into the playoffs.

He needs work, but the potential is there. He needs time, a good QB coach, and some better weapons around him. He got drafted as a QB (first round), has only played 14 games in two seasons, yet he's helped take a 1-4 squad to the post-season.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

He IS an NFL quarterback, who just got his team into the playoffs.

He needs work, but the potential is there. He needs time, a good QB coach, and some better weapons around him. He got drafted as a QB (first round), has only played 14 games in two seasons, yet he's helped take a 1-4 squad to the post-season.

Brady Quinn only has 15 complete games in the NFL. And more than one person in the Broncos' forums are calling him to if not start in the Playoffs, come in and play if Tebow gets too far behind. The NFL is a passing league and within 5 years, you won't find one team drafting a defensive player in the first round. Its getting to be that bad. Pats ranked worst D in the league and GBays ranked 2nd worst. Sure those numbers are misleading but in overall D, they are both ranked the worst but are favored to win it all.

[MCWAY]

Brady Quinn only has 15 complete games in the NFL. And more than one person in the Broncos' forums are calling him to if not start in the Playoffs, come in and play if Tebow gets too far behind. The NFL is a passing league and within 5 years, you won't find one team drafting a defensive player in the first round. Its getting to be that bad. Pats ranked worst D in the league and GBays ranked 2nd worst. Sure those numbers are misleading but in overall D, they are both ranked the worst but are favored to win it all.

Let's see the Broncos tried Kyle Orton.....ZILCH!

They tried Brady Quinn.....ZILCH!!!

They start Tebow......AFC WEST TITLE!!!

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Let's see the Broncos tried Kyle Orton.....ZILCH!

They tried Brady Quinn.....ZILCH!!!

They start Tebow......AFC WEST TITLE!!!

On paper you're right. But they don't pass the eye test. I'm a Pats fan and when Brady went down 2008, me and almost every other Pats fan said they were done. Well Matt Cassel stepped in that took them 11-5 but missed the playoffs that year. 11 and fucking 5 and they miss the playoffs. When you ask Pats fans about the 2008 season, they will tell you that the Pats shouldn't have made the playoffs and didn't deserve it anyway. Then you'll hear shit about the "system" etc. but that's a whole diff/argument.

However, Tebow worshipers are grasping at straws thinking its some sort of miracle working. That's not smart. And its not good for the team/fans. Denver deserves to have a top notch fucking Quarterback playing for that team. Denver is one of the toughest places on earth to go and play at as an away team. The fans there are incredible. This Tebow experiment is a waste of time and everyone knows it. Its sad what ESPN has done to him. When Brett Favre left for good, it seems that ESPN needed to fill his shoes. And they've done it with Tebow.

Its obvious that Tebow is an awesome human being. And an awesome football talent. He's just playing the wrong position. Its way too late for him to be a line backer for sure, but the guy could do some serious damage as a tight end. He's obviously showing on field football speed that didn't really show up at the combine. But the dudes arm and passing instincts are not there. There's too much film out on him now and its not like his coach is going to let him open it up. The end is near. At least his QB career.