RP taking advantage of Newt's collapse.

[240 is Back]

Meh.  Romney conceded Iowa a long time ago, and still might win it. 

BB, you should watch Morning Joe like 33 and I do.

Joe has talked a great deal about the 180-degree turn Mitt has made, not that Iowa is suddenly winnable.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/18/politics/romney-iowa/index.html

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) -- Mitt Romney is returning to safe harbor on Tuesday, kicking off a week-long tour of New Hampshire, his early state stronghold.
 
But with his team now stepping up efforts in Iowa and South Carolina -- two states he largely avoided for much of the year -- Romney's playing field has suddenly expanded beyond his New Hampshire citadel, increasing the stakes for his campaign across the early-state playing field.
 
Romney is now in full-blown campaign mode in both Iowa and New Hampshire, spending heavily on television ads and devoting more time to public rallies and media appearances.

[240 is Back]

Meh.  Romney conceded Iowa a long time ago, and still might win it. 

It appears, on Nov 19, Mitt opened up an HQ in Iowa and gave them a dump trunk of money so they could win that state!
It was called a "stealth" operation, which may have been why you didn't hear about it dude.




Mr. Romney, who has been cautiously calibrating expectations about his chances in a state full of social conservatives, is now playing to win the Iowa caucuses. Television commercials are on the way, volunteers are arriving and a stealth operation is ready to burst into view in the weeks leading up to the caucuses, the first Republican nominating contest, on Jan. 3.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/us/politics/mitt-romney-shifts-in-iowa-playing-to-win-quickly.html?pagewanted=all

[MCWAY]

Slow and steady and but solid as a rock.  

You can say that about nearly every "not-Romney" candidate.

August: Bachmann
September: Perry
October: Cain
November: Gringrich
December: Paul

The only two left are Huntsmann and Santorum.

[240 is Back]

You can say that about nearly every "not-Romney" candidate.

August: Bachmann
September: Perry
October: Cain
November: Gringrich
December: Paul

The only two left are Huntsmann and Santorum.

True, and by Feb or march, Ron Paul might have fallen in the polls.

But jan 3 is the iowa caucus

[Soul Crusher]

You can say that about nearly every "not-Romney" candidate.

August: Bachmann
September: Perry
October: Cain
November: Gringrich
December: Paul

The only two left are Huntsmann and Santorum.

I really believe Paul / Huntsman  would be the nuke to send obama back to kenya.    Romney and newt are more of the same bs we are all sick of.  bachmann is great but not going to win.   Perry is done.    

[headhuntersix]

Yeah...if he wins here and wins NH and is still around by S.Carolina then you can gloat...at which time I'll try and figure out how many bandwagons you've jumped on...but ok...now its RP.

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah...if he wins here and wins NH and is still around by S.Carolina then you can gloat...at which time I'll try and figure out how many bandwagons you've jumped on...but ok...now its RP.

I have one goal - send obama back to Kenya w aunt Zeituni and uncle omar.   If mumia abu jamal / madoff could do it - I would vote for them at this point.   
 

[Hugo Chavez]

Yeah...if he wins here and wins NH and is still around by S.Carolina then you can gloat...at which time I'll try and figure out how many bandwagons you've jumped on...but ok...now its RP.

nobody is gloating dumbass.

[headhuntersix]

I was refering to 240....I have no idea what the hell you believe.

[Dos Equis]

BB, you should watch Morning Joe like 33 and I do.

Joe has talked a great deal about the 180-degree turn Mitt has made, not that Iowa is suddenly winnable.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/18/politics/romney-iowa/index.html

DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) -- Mitt Romney is returning to safe harbor on Tuesday, kicking off a week-long tour of New Hampshire, his early state stronghold.
 
But with his team now stepping up efforts in Iowa and South Carolina -- two states he largely avoided for much of the year -- Romney's playing field has suddenly expanded beyond his New Hampshire citadel, increasing the stakes for his campaign across the early-state playing field.
 
Romney is now in full-blown campaign mode in both Iowa and New Hampshire, spending heavily on television ads and devoting more time to public rallies and media appearances.

No need.  I 'll just get my info from a guy working for Romney's campaign.  The fact Romney sees blood in the water and may be spending money there now has nothing to do with the fact he didn't spend time on the ground in Iowa and didn't expect to win Iowa. 

[headhuntersix]

The Romny folks are smart and have run a steady race> he knows how to win....center right, attack Barry on substance, do well at the debates and get the nomination. The GOP stands to win pretty big in Congress, they'll force Romney a little farther right and he'll do enough to right the ship. Maybe the nutbag liberal wing will die and we'll get balance from the Dems.

[240 is Back]

No need.  I 'll just get my info from a guy working for Romney's campaign.  The fact Romney sees blood in the water and may be spending money there now has nothing to do with the fact he didn't spend time on the ground in Iowa and didn't expect to win Iowa.  

he didn't expect to win it initially.

now he sees there's a very good chance he COULD win the state.  The anti-romney vote will probably end up being 18, 18, 18, 18, and 2% lol...

his ceiling of "20" might just win out.

[Hugo Chavez]

I was refering to 240....I have no idea what the hell you believe.

again, nobody is gloating.  RP went ahead in the iowa polls and it was posted here and we're doing what we do here, talking about it.  I don't see anyone including 240 gloating over it.  What I do see is neocons like you in a fucking panic over it.

[Soul Crusher]

Ron Paul Plows to Lead in Iowa; Young Voters Sowing the Seed
Yahoo News ^ | Dec. 19th, 2011 | Sherry Tomfeld



When it comes to foreign affairs, Ron Paul is the most mocked of the GOP field. The argument could be made that Paul only wants to follow the Constitution. He does not believe we should fight a war unless it is declared a war by Congress. As a former military man, Paul says he wants a strong defense, but wants to bring troops back home from around the world. Paul's philosophy on foreign affairs continues to be his biggest stumbling block with older voters and his GOP rivals. An article earlier this year in USA Today stated that Paul has the largest support in military men and women.


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[Freeborn126]

The Romny folks are smart and have run a steady race> he knows how to win....center right, attack Barry on substance, do well at the debates and get the nomination. The GOP stands to win pretty big in Congress, they'll force Romney a little farther right and he'll do enough to right the ship. Maybe the nutbag liberal wing will die and we'll get balance from the Dems.

But Mitt Romney isn't a conservative.  Why would any Republican want him to win?  He supports state run healthcare mandates, Global Warming, Globalism, Patriot act, Pro Federal Reserve, "let the lawyers sort it out if its constitutional to go to war without a declaration" 

Mitt won't win, too many people have woken up, it is game over for the neo cons and progressives.

[Bindare_Dundat]

She endorses paul.....its the kiss of death

Exactly. She would be like AIDS to his campagin.

[Bindare_Dundat]

After all the shit that has been endured since 2008, I think anyone that supported Rp has a right to be excited right now, even if it all goes downhill from here. It's been a brutal uphill battle to get to this point.

[MCWAY]

True, and by Feb or march, Ron Paul might have fallen in the polls.

But jan 3 is the iowa caucus

True. But winning Iowa, though important, isn't the end game. Huckabee won Iowa in 2008; McCain ended up with the nomination. It's a boost. But, should Paul win it, can he follow up with wins elsewhere?

And, once he becomes the front-runner, he'll get skewered just like Gingrich, Cain, Perry, and Bachmann.

[Soul Crusher]

True. But winning Iowa, though important, isn't the end game. Huckabee won Iowa in 2008; McCain ended up with the nomination. It's a boost. But, should Paul win it, can he follow up with wins elsewhere?

And, once he becomes the front-runner, he'll get skewered just like Gingrich, Cain, Perry, and Bachmann.

240 will savage RP once he starts getting ahead. 

[240 is Back]

240 will savage RP once he starts getting ahead. 

put a $10,000 wager on this one, mittens...

[Dos Equis]

True. But winning Iowa, though important, isn't the end game. Huckabee won Iowa in 2008; McCain ended up with the nomination. It's a boost. But, should Paul win it, can he follow up with wins elsewhere?

And, once he becomes the front-runner, he'll get skewered just like Gingrich, Cain, Perry, and Bachmann.

True, except Paul will never be the front-runner.  I heard that Republicans in Iowa (including the governor) are concerned that Paul winning Iowa will hurt the credibility of their caucus.   

Also, Paul's rise in the Iowa polls has helped Romney, because it capped Newt's rise. 

[MCWAY]

Ron Paul Plows to Lead in Iowa; Young Voters Sowing the Seed
Yahoo News ^ | Dec. 19th, 2011 | Sherry Tomfeld



When it comes to foreign affairs, Ron Paul is the most mocked of the GOP field. The argument could be made that Paul only wants to follow the Constitution. He does not believe we should fight a war unless it is declared a war by Congress. As a former military man, Paul says he wants a strong defense, but wants to bring troops back home from around the world. Paul's philosophy on foreign affairs continues to be his biggest stumbling block with older voters and his GOP rivals. An article earlier this year in USA Today stated that Paul has the largest support in military men and women.


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That makes no sense. Paul has been railing against the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq, BOTH of which were authorized by Congress.

[240 is Back]

True, except Paul will never be the front-runner.  I heard that Republicans in Iowa (including the governor) are concerned that Paul winning Iowa will hurt the credibility of their caucus.   

Also, Paul's rise in the Iowa polls has helped Romney, because it capped Newt's rise. 

I guess we will find out in a week or two.

Newt's rise is more than 'capped' - He's dropping like a rock.

Unless those people change course after a year to Mitt... Ron Paul may become the frontrunner.  Despite being ignored and hated on by corporate media.

That'd be pretty damn funny.

[Dos Equis]

Ron Paul is not going to be the front-runner.  He's not going to win the nomination.  Period. 

[240 is Back]

Ron Paul is not going to be the front-runner.  He's not going to win the nomination.  Period.  

You need to be more clear.  He's not going to be the NATIONAL frontrunner?  Or the IOWA frontrunner?

Cause PPP already announced yesterday that indeed, Ron Paul is now the new IOWA frontrunner.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/public-policy-polling-ron-paul-now-the-frontrunner-in-iowa/

Paul 23, Mitt 20, and Newt down to 14%.


So your prediction is that Ron Paul will never be the NATIONAL frontrunner, right?