Offseason, Testosterone and other anabolic drugs - explained

[gh15]

I'd like to hear gh15's opinion on this. Looks like a real pro bodybuilder stack for sure

its balonie,, this fella is not a pro,, testosterona is not the most importent it is just a bse to keep agression and effective oversall balance,, you can turn profesional on less than 750 mg a week of testosterona if hav eenough hgh in blood,,infact what mater is to hav elegit testosterona! since a top chef testosterona is always dose right with high quality powder so his 100mg per cc is what other will call 300 400 mg per cc


you tel me you cant grow crazy from 300mg a week of strengo testosterona ,,
many of you fellas dont use legit products,, its said but...thats the way it is ,,

testosterona = blooofy UNLES UNLESSSSS you hav eenough saturation of hgh in your blood,, this saturation take some time....

you need to get it in your head ! notice where all he fellas on 1 + gram testosterona get to in your locla gymnasium...notice whee they get to...they get to the damn WATER FOUNTAIN  thats as far as they get to ,,

the base of everything in bodybuild is human growth hormone,,,from then on you add aas btu add it the right way the right timing and the right doses,, do some use 2 gram ,, odcourse but they also use 20-30 iu legt legit! gh every single day ,, every single fucking daywith lots of trenbolona

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[arce1988]

 shgh

[gh15]

Just out of curiosity, how much testosterone do you think a national level bodybuilder is running at any given point in their offseason?

its not how much testosterona they run ,, it is how much HGH AND INSULINA they run ,, testosterona is only good for agressive over all thickness added to an already saturated body,, and yes if you use 20-30 iu of legit gh...start it with 6% bodyfat...if you use with it ephedrine and or dnp....that will work ,, but you can be marvelous bodybuild on even 150-250 mg a week of testosterona just to replace natural testosterna or go a bit higher,, no one cared about much testosterona back in the 60s and 70s it was used but again in minium ,, it add thickness that is importent but you hav eto know just how much YOU specific the indidviaul within you the bodybuikd you are is capable of...and it will only be higher if hgh is higher and if hgh is LEGIT!

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[gh15]

some pros run ridiculous amounts, some run less than gymrats. it depends on how well they respond, anyways, it's the gh, insulin and seo that gets them to their size not the ridiculous amount of steroids because there is a point where there's no longer any benefit received to running a higher dosage and all it does is increase the side effects.

there is really no reason to run 4 grams of test a week in a 10gram a week cycle, it's just idiotic. not to say there aren't pros doing that but it's not going to help them add anymore muscle than half that dosage.

very good,,

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[BFG]

its not how much testosterona they run ,, it is how much HGH AND INSULINA they run ,, testosterona is only good for agressive over all thickness added to an already saturated body,, and yes if you use 20-30 iu of legit gh...start it with 6% bodyfat...if you use with it ephedrine and or dnp....that will work ,, but you can be marvelous bodybuild on even 150-250 mg a week of testosterona just to replace natural testosterna or go a bit higher,, no one cared about much testosterona back in the 60s and 70s it was used but again in minium ,, it add thickness that is importent but you hav eto know just how much YOU specific the indidviaul within you the bodybuikd you are is capable of...and it will only be higher if hgh is higher and if hgh is LEGIT!

gh15 approved

The bodybuilders in the 60s and 70s were much smaller than those of today so that analogy does not really make much sense. Obviously there is a huge synergy between testosterone and hgh but that is not what my initial post is about. Trenbolone is not the ideal offseason bulking drug because it increases metabolic rate and core temperature too much. Offseason is about growth, contest prep is about becoming lean and shedding the fat that is inevitably put on by any growth protocol. Your suggestions of drug stacks make far more sense for a physique competitor or a fitness model, not a pro bodybuilder.

[gh15]

ITS NOT JUST RESPONSE TO DRUGS, ITS THE FACT THEY GET QUALITY DRUGS.WHAT GOOD IS RUNNING 600MG EQ, IF ITS REALLY DOSED LIKE 300MG?

lol i like this fella capital leter tone lol he became one of my favortie posters lol  loveit

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[gh15]

I'm going for 2 g of test and 20ius of gh next offseason MYSELF...I dont like to mix too many coumpounds and keep it as simple as i can...speaking of test and gh cycles only...here is my boy Swiper who blast around 3g of test and gh and adds an oral for about 5 weeks at times...those who get extremlly bloated on test is because whether there isnt enough gh in their blood or their diet is shit. Hey , what can i say , I like it the Americana way , i fucking love test and double cheeseburgers
SWIPER

wel atleast we verify now that we hav ebodybuilders in thunderdome ,, fellas think we dont have bodybuildrs here,, they dont understand that all the bodybuildrs start their day here and end their day here lol

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[nosleep]

wel atleast we verify now that we hav ebodybuilders in thunderdome ,, fellas think we dont have bodybuildrs here,, they dont understand that all the bodybuildrs start their day here and end their day here lol

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WE GOT BBOY TOO. THAT SLINPIMP GUY IS FUCKING MASSIVE IF THATS HIS ACTUAL AVI. REARDEN IS HUGEEEEEE. STAVIOS,TOO. MAX B IS PRETTY DAMN YOKED. OKAMI IS IMAKO. BIG-KIGTROPINER IS DAMN BIG TOO.

NOT MANY BOARDS, I CANNOT THINK OF ONE ACTUALLY THAT MATCHES UP TO GET BIG.

[aesthetics]

face it, kid, everyone here who knows what they are talking about, and has been there, knows your full of shit. you are so transparent its ridiculous to think you dont think you are. you just repeat what you read. so, stop giving advice and running around here trying to sound experienced cause you CLEARLY have no first hand experience about the things you talk about. just stick to being the 170 kid at your gym who wishes he was 250, cause thats exactly who you are.

 

i think you've followed me around copy pasting that post about 10 times now out of context with half of the post missing even though i've explained like 4 times what i meant in that post, and why i said that in relation to the thread discussion

it's sweet that you have a crush on me though  

[gh15]

The bodybuilders in the 60s and 70s were much smaller than those of today so that analogy does not really make much sense. Obviously there is a huge synergy between testosterone and hgh but that is not what my initial post is about. Trenbolone is not the ideal offseason bulking drug because it increases metabolic rate and core temperature too much. Offseason is about growth, contest prep is about becoming lean and shedding the fat that is inevitably put on by any growth protocol. Your suggestions of drug stacks make far more sense for a physique competitor or a fitness model, not a pro bodybuilder.

this is actual a good answer,, i liek good answers,, but BALONIE,, my cycle is aim in profesional bodybuild ...and there is no bulk and cut,, trenbolona HAS TO BE THERE for specific look ,, infact trenbolona has to be there in specific dose! for specific look! ,, if you use 70mg every 2 day it will not be good...150mg is when you start understanding how importent it is ,, no one care off season on season ,, there is no off season in bodybuild you always need to look like bodybuild and you always need to have trenbolona ace in hand and hgh ,, testosterona you can play with ....all testosterona give in ghigher doses it bloofy large waist! ,, the freaks out there do nto count on mega dose testostetrona until! we go on enough gh to saturate the body and then body respond to soak testosteroan in ....infact part of the mess call bodybuild 2011 is due to 2 thing...

over use of testosterona
over use of insulina,,

this is why 80% of them look like a balonie wraped in christmas paper

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[AlphaMaleDawg]

very good thread. Aesthetics made some very good points. I think both BFG and gh15 are right. Just not everyone does the same exact thing to get to where they are

[nosleep]

very good thread. Aesthetics made some very good points. I think both BFG and gh15 are right. Just not everyone does the same exact thing to get to where they are

^^ THIS GUY TOO, GH15. BIG GUY.

ALL THE WAY BIG.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

^^ THIS GUY TOO, GH15. BIG GUY.

ALL THE WAY BIG.

I admire your motto...INJECT NOW, LAUGH LATER. fucking win

[BFG]

this is actual a good answer,, i liek good answers,, but BALONIE,, my cycle is aim in profesional bodybuild ...and there is no bulk and cut,, trenbolona HAS TO BE THERE for specific look ,, infact trenbolona has to be there in specific dose! for specific look! ,, if you use 70mg every 2 day it will not be good...150mg is when you start understanding how importent it is ,, no one care off season on season ,, there is no off season in bodybuild you always need to look like bodybuild and you always need to have trenbolona ace in hand and hgh ,, testosterona you can play with ....all testosterona give in ghigher doses it bloofy large waist! ,, the freaks out there do nto count on mega dose testostetrona until! we go on enough gh to saturate the body and then body respond to soak testosteroan in ....infact part of the mess call bodybuild 2011 is due to 2 thing...

over use of testosterona
over use of insulina,,

this is why 80% of them look like a balonie wraped in christmas paper

gh15 approved

We are saying practically the same thing. The only difference is that I am not critiquing the state of current bodybuilding, just simply directing people on how to get to that point. As I stated in the example blast and cruise protocol that I laid out, trenbolone should be used in blasts throughout the offseason but for a pro looking to gain mass and have a productive offseason there is simply no reason to stay on tren the entire time...again, it raises metabolic rate too much. I have to disagree, though, with the statement that there is no offseason, with the exception of very few pro bodybuilders most do not compete year round and there is an important period of time out of the year where improvements to the physique can be made.

[gh15]

i just do not like to see big waist and guts on fellas,, as simple as thAT,, you can have the bigest physiqe in the world btu if it is atack to big wqaist...it kill KILL your look ,, the freaks you all like to talk about only come to surface when they start with small waist....and everything else grow beside waist,,, truly 30-33 inches at 5'11 this is a freak ,, only then latrt on you can climb on higher testosterona when body is saturated with enough gh high enough dose and you walk around 6% on regular basis ...then you can boom it with higher testosterona that will be soaked by body ,,

show me fellas who look godo on 3 gram testosterona a week ,, show me,, remember what bodybuild is...IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH LOOKING GOOD not only nunch of mass and water and fat that lose 60lb to get on stage,, it has to do with aLWAYS look  like bodybuild in any time any place ,, ther is reason wy 80s and 90s were best bodybuild yesar,,and to be honest...70s were even better..but in 70s not everyone could be bodybuild ,,, in 2000s EEVRY one can be bodybuild

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[The Wizard of Truth]

Insulin is the only thing that fucks up my waist. 15iu a day everyday of gh and any amount of test don't do much to my waist, but insulin in megadoses...

[gh15]

We are saying practically the same thing. The only difference is that I am not critiquing the state of current bodybuilding, just simply directing people on how to get to that point. As I stated in the example blast and cruise protocol that I laid out, trenbolone should be used in blasts throughout the offseason but for a pro looking to gain mass and have a productive offseason there is simply no reason to stay on tren the entire time...again, it raises metabolic rate too much. I have to disagree, though, with the statement that there is no offseason, with the exception of very few pro bodybuilders most do not compete year round and there is an important period of time out of the year where improvements to the physique can be made.

wel i despize what hapen to bodybuild...i just dont think it is even remotrly close to 80s or 90s,, i think bodybuid now days overusing testosterona and become bloofy even when conditioned they look weird,, too much insulina too much testosterona,, so insted of fellas always say i recomend high doses on everything ....they should resad what i writre and when go to other boardings quote me right,,

i believe in the approach of high anabolics high hgh ...then all the rest ,, ofcourse testosterona is highly imprtent for thickness and for agressivness and stamina...but you can get by on good 200-300 mg of legit top chef testosterona and look marvelous,, you want more testosterona? make sure your body has enough gh in it nd that this gh is already causes igf raise that is constant and going on for some time

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[BFG]

i just do not like to see big waist and guts on fellas,, as simple as thAT,, you can have the bigest physiqe in the world btu if it is atack to big wqaist...it kill KILL your look ,, the freaks you all like to talk about only come to surface when they start with small waist....and everything else grow beside waist,,, truly 30-33 inches at 5'11 this is a freak ,, only then latrt on you can climb on higher testosterona when body is saturated with enough gh high enough dose and you walk around 6% on regular basis ...then you can boom it with higher testosterona that will be soaked by body ,,

show me fellas who look godo on 3 gram testosterona a week ,, show me,, remember what bodybuild is...IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH LOOKING GOOD not only nunch of mass and water and fat that lose 60lb to get on stage,, it has to do with aLWAYS look  like bodybuild in any time any place ,, ther is reason wy 80s and 90s were best bodybuild yesar,,and to be honest...70s were even better..but in 70s not everyone could be bodybuild ,,, in 2000s EEVRY one can be bodybuild

gh15 approved

I alluded to this earlier in the thread that this is not necessarily about looking "good" so much as it is about being gaining muscle mass and having a productive offseason. I think almost everyone would agree that the bodybuilders of the 70s look the best but if your goal is to be competitive at the top level today, it wont cut it to look like someone from the golden era.

[gh15]

I alluded to this earlier in the thread that this is not necessarily about looking "good" so much as it is about being gaining muscle mass and having a productive offseason. I think almost everyone would agree that the bodybuilders of the 70s look the best but if your goal is to be competitive at the top level today, it wont cut it to look like someone from the golden era.

actualy ,, back then they didnt hav ethe suntetic gh and doses we have now....gh and insulina now inaddition to an arnold of the 70s....create monsters...everyone eagree that arnold was the best bodybuild ever overall toegther with ron colman ...btu arnold with gh and insulina would be much better than ron colman this is what i try to say here,,

it is the gh and insulina that came in bodybuild and took into new level...not the testosterona

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[Max B]

WE GOT BBOY TOO. THAT SLINPIMP GUY IS FUCKING MASSIVE IF THATS HIS ACTUAL AVI. REARDEN IS HUGEEEEEE. STAVIOS,TOO. MAX B IS PRETTY DAMN YOKED. OKAMI IS IMAKO. BIG-KIGTROPINER IS DAMN BIG TOO.

NOT MANY BOARDS, I CANNOT THINK OF ONE ACTUALLY THAT MATCHES UP TO GET BIG.

Haha bro thanks.... smoofcat is big as fuck too were going to train together while he preps for his show in march.. both of us running Kigs and strango meds... wait till i post my new pics...lol!

[nosleep]

Haha bro thanks.... smoofcat is big as fuck too were going to train together while he preps for his show in march.. both of us running Kigs and strango meds... wait till i post my new pics...lol!

SO AM I. WELL, I WILL BE IN A WEEK!!!!!! KIGS WHENEVER THEY COME IN, PROLLY 3 WEEKS.

[makaveli25]

Lucky basterds. Hopefully by next year I will be able to add some gh to my regiment. This is a good thread. Both BFG and Gh15 have a lot of good information. There's always more than one way to skin a cat. The high anabolics, low moderate test, high doses of gh seem to give a crisper more quality look then shitloads of test, slin, and gh.

Bboy outlined his cycle awhile ago. It was around a gram of test with high anabolics and gh and he looks amazing.

[no one]

i think you've followed me around copy pasting that post about 10 times now out of context with half of the post missing even though i've explained like 4 times what i meant in that post, and why i said that in relation to the thread discussion

it's sweet that you have a crush on me though  

dont worry hun, ill be more than happy to run you off this board. and i will. so, no need to thank me for following you around. the pleasure is all mine, you skinny repeating bitch wanna be.  

[b-boy]

Lucky basterds. Hopefully by next year I will be able to add some gh to my regiment. This is a good thread. Both BFG and Gh15 have a lot of good information. There's always more than one way to skin a cat. The high anabolics, low moderate test, high doses of gh seem to give a crisper more quality look then shitloads of test, slin, and gh.

Bboy outlined his cycle awhile ago. It was around a gram of test with high anabolics and gh and he looks amazing.

thank you. 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Someone should start a thread where we all post pics to see how huge a lot of getbiggers truly are