Offseason, Testosterone and other anabolic drugs - explained

[AlphaMaleDawg]

no,, pineapple is diff,, something in it is diff,, orange juice and other even if all natural doesnt give oyu this same feeling,, pineapple has something in it i dont know why that help the system ,, unlike other fruit drinks ...the pine apple make you feel replenished but not slugish after,,

pine apple is basicaly the equivalent of vitargo lol only for 30-40 cents per can lol

gh15 approved

I am honestly terrified to eat when I come off tren and hgh...which is why i dont wanna come off tren. hgh i know i dont need to stop

[theheman]

lol,, you think we dotn eat sugar before bed? lol

for years befor bed all i did was icecream and pine apple juice abotu an hour before go sleep sometime 10 min before go sleep

high glysamic lol jesus christ you got bible here and you still thinkin in terms of danta and sons,,

gh15 approved

That just broke my heart.   There are really no rules.

[L.L]

check out, niacin raises growth hormone. Pretty sure the study was made for its  effects on lowerimg bad cholesterol and raising the good. IT raises it by like 30 percent while lowering the bad by like 40 percent i believe it was. cant remember. But its funny how sometimes the simpliest things can really help. some nice doctors suggest niacin over alot of other medications and it actually works good.

 i take niacin daily before bed..it's a must in my book ,.imo

[animal1991]

no,, pineapple is diff,, something in it is diff,, orange juice and other even if all natural doesnt give oyu this same feeling,, pineapple has something in it i dont know why that help the system ,, unlike other fruit drinks ...the pine apple make you feel replenished but not slugish after,,

pine apple is basicaly the equivalent of vitargo lol only for 30-40 cents per can lol

gh15 approved

Could somebody please post a pic of the pineapple juice? Stupid Q, I know, but here where I live there usually aren't the same products as in the States. Thanks

[notsureifsrs]

Could somebody please post a pic of the pineapple juice? Stupid Q, I know, but here where I live there usually aren't the same products as in the States. Thanks

Than pic wont help you
just look for all natural pineapple juice, there is some international companies like" happy day" and such who provide it.

haha I quit

Swiper's diet from RX muscle

8am- 3 packets oatmeal brown male sugar
11:30am- grill southwest chicken salad with an extra chicken breast from McDonald's
3pm- 3 small chicken breasts, bowl of pasta or brown rice. Protein shake.
7pm chicken or steak with rice or pasta with green beans.
9:30pm huge bowl of cereal. fruit loops, cinnamon toast crunch, coco puffs.

i don't know the oz of the chicken. the rice is the uncle Ben's the one you throw in the microwave for 1:30 and i use Sweet baby ray's Honey mustard dipping sauce.

Eating the way you posted on "what did you eat yesterday" i can understand you...



btw Slinpimp you follow the same route?

[The Wizard of Truth]

Could somebody please post a pic of the pineapple juice? Stupid Q, I know, but here where I live there usually aren't the same products as in the States. Thanks

The guys on here use cans of Dole pineapple juice
I rang the Irish, UK and French distributor for Dole and none of them do it 

[ChevChelios]

you know, i have to take 25mg of atd eod to prevent excess bloat on fucking 250mg of test per week. i mean excess, im still bloated, but not so much. on 500mg/week i needed to make it ed and still i was a little bit bloated. taking too much atd kills my strength so i don't do that.

I know what you are saying man,my first time cycle was 150 mg test propioanta eod, in 1 week i gained 12 pounds of water,bloated like shit,i said wtf is this shit. 

[monopoly19]

Thanks for telling us about the posting over at rxmuscle, I'm reading through it and it's a great source of info.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

The whole Swiper thing proves that it really is all drugs and genetic response to the drugs. I truly swear by this and have every reason to. It is no coincidence I am in the best shape of my life and I don't eat that clean anymore like I used to

[flinstones1]

The whole Swiper thing proves that it really is all drugs and genetic response to the drugs. I truly swear by this and have every reason to. It is no coincidence I am in the best shape of my life and I don't eat that clean anymore like I used to

how old are you AMD?

[littleboyblue]

use of test is very individual as well.....
i can use a lot and not have gyno problems, i feel fine, just i do get bloated and i hate that look!
but i know some dudes that can't use more then 200 mg a week!! they get gyno, feel like shit! loook like shit as well....
everybody reacts different to drugs.... not everybody likes test....
i like eq a lot, but i get anxiety on it..... sucks! npp i love it! test prop is ok... i love primo but in this day and age is soooo expensive.
tren kicks ass, but again... anxiety problems lol! less then on eq though the tren anxiety i can manage.
any of you have the same problem with eq??
never had it when i was younger, just the last 3 years or so...
my ideal cycle would be:
5 - 10 iu hgh mon- fry
test prop , starting at 50 mg eod.
tren ace, starting at 150 eod.
npp starting, at 100 eod.
that's it!
that will built you a nice late 80's physique!
 

what do you mean you get anxiety from tren and eq?  why don't you just use a little bit of xanex, then?

[NotMrAverage]

I talked to Lee Haney some years ago and he ate pure pineapelle with every meal. At does increase protein uptake from one study I read some years ago. Everybody should add some into their diet anyways it is good taste. TEAM PINEAPPLE

[Voland]

what do you mean you get anxiety from tren and eq?  why don't you just use a little bit of xanex, then?

Interesting...not the first one to write about Eq anxiety. I guess every body reacts differently.
I've had anxiety since i was a teen and im using Eq and my anxiety not only hasn't gone worse but i've actually reduced one pill. Test on the other side, its supposed to be an antidepressant but on 500mg i felt like shit.

[Omega]

haha, that's insane. usually those lab testing companies have a cutoff on the testosterone range around like 1500-3k, i've never, ever seen it that high. also, it doesn't say his is 7,500, it says his is over 7,500 

some times, i get really envious of people who can handle test well and without sides. for me, it is quite possibly one of the worst compounds as far as sides effects to anabolism ratio goes - well, maybe masteron is worse but never used much of it. but, in anycase, i think test is a great hormone if people can handle it, since it is a naturally produced androgen and is the master androgen in the body it can effectively be used to cover most of all the bases in a steroid stack. oh well, i guess it's a trade off for being able to handle tren exceptionally well.

I am the same. I only run anabolics.
Without test I will never get that swollen look but I have my hair and skin etc.

[NotMrAverage]

Donīt use xanax...it will not solve anything, instead it will make anxiety worse...if you get anxiety from certain products, then change them for your makeup... I get a shitload of anxiety from tren but can use eq and test all day long... If you need alittle something for anxiety stick with regular valium or some other long halflife benz then you wont get the rollercoaster thing you get from xanax...all benz stop working after a few weeks anyway, one of the worst drugs from benefits -> side effects

[The Wizard of Truth]

Efexor xl=bye bye anxiety

[abijahmaniaco]

lol,, you think we dotn eat sugar before bed? lol

for years befor bed all i did was icecream and pine apple juice abotu an hour before go sleep sometime 10 min before go sleep

high glysamic lol jesus christ you got bible here and you still thinkin in terms of danta and sons,,

gh15 approved

i couldn't ever justify putting ice cream in my body of work. i like pineapple though. and for pete's sake, it's sweet enough!

i've made a habit of eating pineapple chunks with a good serving of 2% cottage cheese before bed--that way i can get that slow digesting casin in there too.

I know what you are saying man,my first time cycle was 150 mg test propioanta eod, in 1 week i gained 12 pounds of water,bloated like shit,i said wtf is this shit. 

yeah, i haven't done propionate yet, but i'm inclined to think it retains just as much water as the other esterified forms of test. test is test. the ester is inert and breaks off ultimately yielding the same exact thing: testosterone. there's just no science behind these claims...

[OptimusPrime1980]

Interesting...not the first one to write about Eq anxiety. I guess every body reacts differently.
I've had anxiety since i was a teen and im using Eq and my anxiety not only hasn't gone worse but i've actually reduced one pill. Test on the other side, its supposed to be an antidepressant but on 500mg i felt like shit.

well on eq it's worse then on tren....
always manageable though without any drugs.
never had it before on eq, just the last 2 years or so...
strange really....
i will go on some test... buy sme hgh... and see where that gets me!
my parents gave me 700 dollars as an xmas gift.... so hgh is on the way! lolol!
will go on 6iu's mon-fry
750 mg test. durateston
every now and then an oral.... hemogenin..
i am about 240 now..... single digit bodyfat.
i want to get to 245 , not gain weight really but change my body... get the sculpted look.
i am just on test p now and some npp ... low dose...i look ok, but flat and 2 dimensional.
i eat what i want, when i want.... eat when i am hungry and do not eat when i am not hungry.... simple!

btw i don't know why i am telling you all this, just poppes in my mind... lol! well it's bb related... 

[Weedlejuice]

Just thought i'd bump this beauty in light of recent revelations with dallas for some retrospective

[Simple Simon]

haha I quit

Swiper's diet from RX muscle

8am- 3 packets oatmeal brown male sugar
11:30am- grill southwest chicken salad with an extra chicken breast from McDonald's
3pm- 3 small chicken breasts, bowl of pasta or brown rice. Protein shake.
7pm chicken or steak with rice or pasta with green beans.
9:30pm huge bowl of cereal. fruit loops, cinnamon toast crunch, coco puffs.

i don't know the oz of the chicken. the rice is the uncle Ben's the one you throw in the microwave for 1:30 and i use Sweet baby ray's Honey mustard dipping sauce.

flintsones was 11 when he posted this...

[dj181]

[BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT]

The cycle posted in the opening of this thread is total insanity. Anybody thar tries even a quarter of that deserves to die. Fucking morons. Nobody ever seems to mention how in the fuck could one withstand that many  injections per day and week. If you are unable to win a local or regional show on 500mg to 1000mg MAX...per week....then please just give it up.

[a_pupil]

Just thought i'd bump this beauty in light of recent revelations with dallas for some retrospective

this. i read the first page and it seems bfg was more legit than the high tren low test crew when you see what a typical high level pro was really using.

[myosaurus]

I competed with a guy who took whole bottle of cyp(2500mg test) daily for 8 weeks. that's 17500mg per week! he didnt even place.
be careful of what you hear on line. sure there are those who take those outrageous amount of gear, but I will tell you, many don't look very impressive from what I've seen.

[dj181]

Anabolics>test

15 is right per usual