Ron Paul Says Accused Traitor is a Patriot

[Dos Equis]

You gave 3 reasons, let's examine these:

1. Is it ever justified to break ones oath to ones country? if so, when?

2. Is it ever justified to break the law, if so, when?

3. How did he put the lives of his fellow soldiers in danger? I know he leaked a lot of files and that helicopter video that became famous. Let's say he put 5 soldiers lives in danger (assuming, for some weird reason, that the lives of those 5 soldiers were not already in danger). Would it be justified to expose war crimes? What if these were extreme war crimes (Say for instance, the torture of 1,000 Iraqi citizens, and 500 of those died from the torture). Would it be justified to put 5 U.S. soldier lives in danger to save 1,000 Iraqi citizens from being tortured (and 500 of that 1000 from dying)? You need to either say A) It is never justified to put any U.S. soldier's life in more danger than the life already is in time of war no matter what the consequences may be or B) It is sometimes justified considering the consequences to put lives of U.S. soldiers in danger. If you choose B, you have to define what situations.

How about we examine this particular traitor instead engaging in some metaphysical discussion about the meaning of life, obeying the law, etc.?  

1.  He violated his oath.  That's undisputed.  

2.  He broke the law.  That's undisputed (although I'm not about to look up which one it was).  He was an intelligence analyst.  He had a security clearance.  He knew exactly what he was and was not supposed to do.  The fact he covertly transferred classified data shows he knew it was unlawful.  That's the only reason he did it secretly.  

3.  You asked about 5 or 6 questions and I'm not about to try and parse them out.  But on the issue of putting lives in danger, he transferred over 250,000 classified U.S. State Department cables.  He transfered internal war logs and diaries.  I'm sure they contained names, strategies, successes, failures, after-action reports, etc.  Yes, that kind of information in the hands of the enemy compromises future missions and puts the lives of Soldiers in danger.  What he did is indefensible.

And he didn't expose squat.  I watched the video where the helicopter took out insurgents.  I have no problem with their use of force.  But even if I did, that does not justify engaging in the largest illegal classified information transfer in American history (or so I read--I think).  There are plenty of ways to shine the light on perceived misconduct without betraying your country (see my prior post).  

[Dos Equis]

Here is what Bradley Manning signed when he was granted a security clearance:  CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
http://www.archives.gov/isoo/security-forms/sf312.pdf

1.  Intending to be legally bound, I hereby accept the obligations contained in this Agreement in consideration of my being
granted access to classified information.  As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified
information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 12958, or under any
other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security;
and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination
as provided in Sections 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 12958, or under any other Executive order or statute that
requires protection for such information in the interest of national security.  I understand and accept that by being granted
access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government.

2.  I hereby acknowledge that I have received a security indoctrination concerning the nature and protection of classified
information, including the procedures to be followed in ascertaining whether other persons to whom I contemplate disclosing
this information have been approved for access to it, and that I understand these procedures.

3.  I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified information
by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation.  I
hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has
been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b) I have been given prior written notice of
authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for
the classification of the information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted.  I understand
that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that
the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b), above.  I further understand
that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information.

4.  I have been advised that any breach of this Agreement may result in the termination of any security clearances I hold;
removal from any position of special confidence and trust requiring such clearances; or the termination of my employment or
other relationships with the Departments or Agencies that granted my security clearance or clearances.  In addition, I have
been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation, or violations, of
United States criminal laws, including the provisions of Sections 641, 793, 794, 798, *952 and 1924, Title 18, United States
Code, * the provisions of Section 783(b), Title 50, United States Code, and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities
Protection Act of 1982.  I recognize that nothing in this Agreement constitutes a waiver by the United States of the right to
prosecute me for any statutory violation.

5.  I hereby assign to the United States Government all royalties, remunerations, and emoluments that have resulted, will
result or may result from any disclosure, publication, or revelation of classified information not consistent with the terms of
this Agreement.

6.  I understand that the United States Government may seek any remedy available to it to enforce this Agreement including,
but not limited to, application for a court order prohibiting disclosure of information in breach of this Agreement.

7.  I understand that all classified information to which I have access or may obtain access by signing this Agreement is now
and will remain the property of, or under the control of the United States Government unless and until otherwise determined
by an authorized official or final ruling of a court of law.  I agree that I shall return all classified materials which have, or may
come into my possession or for which I am responsible because of such access: (a) upon demand by an authorized
representative of the United States Government; (b) upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship with the
Department or Agency that last granted me a security clearance or that provided me access to classified information; or (c)
upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship that requires access to classified information.  If I do not return
such materials upon request, I understand that this may be a violation of Section 793 and/or 1924, Title 18, United States
Code, a United States criminal law.

8.  Unless and until I am released in writing by an authorized representative of the United States Government, I understand
that all conditions and obligations imposed upon me by this Agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified
information, and at all times thereafter.

9.  Each provision of this Agreement is severable.  If a court should find any provision of this Agreement to be unenforceable,
all other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.

10. These restrictions are consistent with and do not supersede, conflict with or otherwise alter the employee obligations,
rights or liabilities created by Executive Order 12958; Section 7211 of Title 5, United States Code (governing disclosures to
Congress); Section 1034 of Title 10, United States Code, as amended by the Military Whistleblower Protection Act (governing
disclosure to Congress by members of the military): Section 2302(b)( 8 ) of Title 5, United States Code, as amended by the
Whistleblower Protection Act (governing disclosures of illegality, waste, fraud, abuse or public health or safety threats); the
Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.) (governing disclosures that expose confidential
Government agents), and the statutes which protect against disclosure that may compromise the national security, including
Sections 641, 793, 794, 798, 952 and 1924 of Title 18, United States Code, and Section 4(b) of the Subversive Activities
Act of 1950 (50 U.S.C. Section 783(b)).  The definitions, requirements, obligations, rights, sanctions and liabilities created by
said Executive Order and listed statutes are incorporated into this Agreement and are controlling.

11.  I have read this Agreement carefully and my questions, if any, have been answered.  I acknowledge that the briefing
officer has made available to me the Executive Order and statutes referenced in this Agreement and its implementing
regulation (32 CFR Section 2003.20) so that I may read them at this time, if I so choose.

9.  Each provision of this Agreement is severable.  If a court should find any provision of this Agreement to be unenforceable,
all other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.

[Emmortal]

Are u fucking serious 240......those people in the article you linked to don't represent the military in any way shape or form. The kid should be hung until dead.

Please cite direct evidence of "a lot of harm done to troops"  by information allegedly released by this kid.  I have yet to see any instances of harm being reported by anyone and I've been following this story very closely since it happened.

[Necrosis]

u people are some backwards thinking fucks man, jesus is this what the states is like you have these extreme right wing crazies taking over and claiming that because he broke his oath to a corrupt government that was putting his life and others on the line for lies and greed he should be punished, LOL the logic in you people is absurd.

you have these black and white views on life and im sorry life is not like that think for yourself for fucks sake, why would you obey an oath and law that is based on lies when its your life and those of your friends fighting the battle? use the chain of command? the top of the chain was the ones he was exposing again where is the logic here? tell the corrupt people they are corrupt? then you have this made up argument that has not one shred of evidence that he was putting the lives of his companions in danger, lol really? show me, prove it, do you not find it odd that you do not apply the same logic to the people above him putting their lives in danger as well? you are the people that withheld the blacks rights, the people who argue against gays etc..

grow up you mental midgets, become an adult and think for yourself.

if a law is morally corrupt i would not follow it just as you do not for many so called laws.

this is my only experience of people like you guys and i realize why the world is laughing as the looneys try to take hold. you got John Bonner walking out on talks like its nothing and you cheer him on towards tyrannical state. He handed out bribe checks for the tabacco lobby on the floor of congress HAHAHAHAHHAHAH, supporting him and his party of liars and thieves is ridiculous. Obama sucks just like ive been saying all along, you need a serious change or your country is going in the shitter.

[Skip8282]

How about we examine this particular traitor instead engaging in some metaphysical discussion about the meaning of life, obeying the law, etc.? 

1.  He violated his oath.  That's undisputed. 

2.  He broke the law.  That's undisputed (although I'm not about to look up which one it was).  He was an intelligence analyst.  He had a security clearance.  He knew exactly what he was and was not supposed to do.  The fact he covertly transferred classified data shows he knew it was unlawful.  That's the only reason he did it secretly. 

3.  You asked about 5 or 6 questions and I'm not about to try and parse them out.  But on the issue of putting lives in danger, he transferred over 250,000 classified U.S. State Department cables.  He transfered internal war logs and diaries.  I'm sure they contained names, strategies, successes, failures, after-action reports, etc.  Yes, that kind of information in the hands of the enemy compromises future missions and puts the lives of Soldiers in danger.  What he did is indefensible.

And he didn't expose squat.  I watched the video where the helicopter took out insurgents.  I have no problem with their use of force.  But even if I did, that does not justify engaging in the largest illegal classified information transfer in American history (or so I read--I think).  There are plenty of ways to shine the light on perceived misconduct without betraying your country (see my prior post).   

BB bringing down some pain.  Still waiting for all this exposed "corruption"...

[Roger Bacon]

u people are some backwards thinking fucks man, jesus is this what the states is like you have these extreme right wing crazies taking over and claiming that because he broke his oath to a corrupt government that was putting his life and others on the line for lies and greed he should be punished, LOL the logic in you people is absurd.

you have these black and white views on life and im sorry life is not like that think for yourself for fucks sake, why would you obey an oath and law that is based on lies when its your life and those of your friends fighting the battle? use the chain of command? the top of the chain was the ones he was exposing again where is the logic here? tell the corrupt people they are corrupt? then you have this made up argument that has not one shred of evidence that he was putting the lives of his companions in danger, lol really? show me, prove it, do you not find it odd that you do not apply the same logic to the people above him putting their lives in danger as well? you are the people that withheld the blacks rights, the people who argue against gays etc..

grow up you mental midgets, become an adult and think for yourself.

if a law is morally corrupt i would not follow it just as you do not for many so called laws.

this is my only experience of people like you guys and i realize why the world is laughing as the looneys try to take hold. you got John Bonner walking out on talks like its nothing and you cheer him on towards tyrannical state. He handed out bribe checks for the tabacco lobby on the floor of congress HAHAHAHAHHAHAH, supporting him and his party of liars and thieves is ridiculous. Obama sucks just like ive been saying all along, you need a serious change or your country is going in the shitter.

Dead on, the kid put his own neck on the line to expose the kind of traitors that want to destroy our country.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Here is what Bradley Manning signed when he was granted a security clearance:  CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
http://www.archives.gov/isoo/security-forms/sf312.pdf

1.  Intending to be legally bound, I hereby accept the obligations contained in this Agreement in consideration of my being
granted access to classified information.  As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified
information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 12958, or under any
other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security;
and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination
as provided in Sections 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 12958, or under any other Executive order or statute that
requires protection for such information in the interest of national security.  I understand and accept that by being granted
access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government.

2.  I hereby acknowledge that I have received a security indoctrination concerning the nature and protection of classified
information, including the procedures to be followed in ascertaining whether other persons to whom I contemplate disclosing
this information have been approved for access to it, and that I understand these procedures.

3.  I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified information
by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation.  I
hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has
been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b) I have been given prior written notice of
authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for
the classification of the information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted.  I understand
that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that
the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b), above.  I further understand
that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information.

4.  I have been advised that any breach of this Agreement may result in the termination of any security clearances I hold;
removal from any position of special confidence and trust requiring such clearances; or the termination of my employment or
other relationships with the Departments or Agencies that granted my security clearance or clearances.  In addition, I have
been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation, or violations, of
United States criminal laws, including the provisions of Sections 641, 793, 794, 798, *952 and 1924, Title 18, United States
Code, * the provisions of Section 783(b), Title 50, United States Code, and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities
Protection Act of 1982.  I recognize that nothing in this Agreement constitutes a waiver by the United States of the right to
prosecute me for any statutory violation.

5.  I hereby assign to the United States Government all royalties, remunerations, and emoluments that have resulted, will
result or may result from any disclosure, publication, or revelation of classified information not consistent with the terms of
this Agreement.

6.  I understand that the United States Government may seek any remedy available to it to enforce this Agreement including,
but not limited to, application for a court order prohibiting disclosure of information in breach of this Agreement.

7.  I understand that all classified information to which I have access or may obtain access by signing this Agreement is now
and will remain the property of, or under the control of the United States Government unless and until otherwise determined
by an authorized official or final ruling of a court of law.  I agree that I shall return all classified materials which have, or may
come into my possession or for which I am responsible because of such access: (a) upon demand by an authorized
representative of the United States Government; (b) upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship with the
Department or Agency that last granted me a security clearance or that provided me access to classified information; or (c)
upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship that requires access to classified information.  If I do not return
such materials upon request, I understand that this may be a violation of Section 793 and/or 1924, Title 18, United States
Code, a United States criminal law.

8.  Unless and until I am released in writing by an authorized representative of the United States Government, I understand
that all conditions and obligations imposed upon me by this Agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified
information, and at all times thereafter.

9.  Each provision of this Agreement is severable.  If a court should find any provision of this Agreement to be unenforceable,
all other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.

10. These restrictions are consistent with and do not supersede, conflict with or otherwise alter the employee obligations,
rights or liabilities created by Executive Order 12958; Section 7211 of Title 5, United States Code (governing disclosures to
Congress); Section 1034 of Title 10, United States Code, as amended by the Military Whistleblower Protection Act (governing
disclosure to Congress by members of the military): Section 2302(b)( 8 ) of Title 5, United States Code, as amended by the
Whistleblower Protection Act (governing disclosures of illegality, waste, fraud, abuse or public health or safety threats); the
Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.) (governing disclosures that expose confidential
Government agents), and the statutes which protect against disclosure that may compromise the national security, including
Sections 641, 793, 794, 798, 952 and 1924 of Title 18, United States Code, and Section 4(b) of the Subversive Activities
Act of 1950 (50 U.S.C. Section 783(b)).  The definitions, requirements, obligations, rights, sanctions and liabilities created by
said Executive Order and listed statutes are incorporated into this Agreement and are controlling.

11.  I have read this Agreement carefully and my questions, if any, have been answered.  I acknowledge that the briefing
officer has made available to me the Executive Order and statutes referenced in this Agreement and its implementing
regulation (32 CFR Section 2003.20) so that I may read them at this time, if I so choose.

9.  Each provision of this Agreement is severable.  If a court should find any provision of this Agreement to be unenforceable,
all other provisions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect.

Doesn't matter.  With all of the reported incidences that occurred with Manning, his security clearance should have been yanked and been given a medical discharge.

Guy was sending pictures of himself in women's clothes to commanding officers, wearing makeup in uniform, punched a female officer, etc.....poor kid was Section 8 like no other.  He went nuts a long time ago and keeping him there because there was a shortage of people with the smarts to operate the systems was the big mistake.

I wanted to hang this kid at first because I got friends I served with out there until the details came out.  Honestly, this just needs to go away very fast and new guidelines need to be established for holding classified information.     

[Dos Equis]

Doesn't matter.  With all of the reported incidences that occurred with Manning, his security clearance should have been yanked and been given a medical discharge.

Guy was sending pictures of himself in women's clothes to commanding officers, wearing makeup in uniform, punched a female officer, etc.....poor kid was Section 8 like no other.  He went nuts a long time ago and keeping him there because there was a shortage of people with the smarts to operate the systems was the big mistake.

I wanted to hang this kid at first because I got friends I served with out there until the details came out.  Honestly, this just needs to go away very fast and new guidelines need to be established for holding classified information.     

What doesn't matter?  That he's a traitor? 

They don't need new guidelines.  They need to enforce the existing laws, and severely punish the traitors like Manning who break the law.

[Dos Equis]

Too bad he's only facing life in prison.

Bradley Manning faces court-martial in WikiLeaks case
By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 9:37 PM EST, Fri February 3, 2012

(CNN) -- Pfc. Bradley E. Manning, who is suspected of leaking hundreds of thousands of secret documents to the WikiLeaks website, will be court-martialed on charges that could lead to a sentence of life in prison, the Army said Friday in a statement.

Manning, 24, faces charges that include aiding the enemy, wrongfully causing intelligence to be published on the Internet, theft of public property or records, transmitting defense information, and fraud and related activity in connection with computers.
If convicted of all charges, he would face a maximum sentence of life in prison, reduction to the lowest enlisted pay grade, E-1; forfeiture of pay and allowances; and a dishonorable discharge. Aiding the enemy is a capital offense, but the investigating officer endorsed the view of military prosecutors not to seek the death penalty.

The U.S. Army Trial Judiciary will appoint a military judge who will set the date for Manning's arraignment, motion hearings and trial, the statement said.

Manning is accused of orchestrating the biggest intelligence leak in U.S. history. During the Article 32 proceedings in December, prosecutors presented evidence that Manning allegedly communicated with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a series of Internet chats about uploading 700 Guantanamo Bay detainee interrogation reports.

Prosecutors charge that Manning put software on secure computers that allowed him to download classified material and burn it to a compact disc. Manning was assigned as an intelligence analyst in Iraq and had a top-secret clearance. He worked in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility, known as SCIF.

Manning is being held in military custody.

At the Article 32 hearing, Manning's defense lawyer, David Coombs, focused most of his attention on two issues: lack of security at the SCIF and the Army's lack of response to Manning's emotional and behavior problems.

WikiLeaks, the international online group that publishes secret government documents it receives from outside sources, set off a firestorm a year and a half ago when it made public on its website U.S. diplomatic cables and other sensitive documents, most of them pertaining to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

The disclosure of hundreds of the documents continues to cast a shadow over the U.S. intelligence community.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told an information-sharing conference last month that plugging leaks of classified materials is still a challenge for the community as it develops new systems to protect information, while at the same time ensuring the right people have access to it.

The fact that Manning had access to so much secret information called into question whether the government had gone too far in responding to one of the biggest failures associated with the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The intelligence community and law enforcement were faulted for failing to share information that might have prevented the attacks.

Clapper called the WikiLeaks disclosure a "terrible event" that heightened the intelligence community's sensitivity to inside threats. He said changes have already been made to monitor information and keep track of who has access to it. But he said it is a work in progress.

"We have to do more to both tag data and ensure that we can properly identify people so that they are actually authorized to receive the information," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/03/justice/wikileaks-manning-court-martial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[whork]

This kid caused alot of harm to US troops operating in Iraq and Afghanistan. There will be no military vote for Paul. Another reason he's an assbag and WILL NEVER GET THE NOMINATION. When your beloved Paul sounds alot like the Leftist dirtbags who hate America its time to relook at your candidate.
 http://www.aim.org/aim-column/ron-paul-says-accused-traitor-is-a-patriot/
 As homosexual Army soldier Bradley Manning’s treason trial continues at Fort Meade, Maryland, the support he has received from Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been curiously ignored by the major media, now touting Paul as someone who could win the January 3 Iowa Republican Caucuses. Paul has called Manning, a crossdresser with acknowledged mental problems, a “hero” and “patriot” for stealing government secrets and providing them to WikiLeaks.
 Oh, but it gets better.
 However, speaking at a campaign rally, Paul said that while Manning may have “technically” broken the law against releasing classified information to WikiLeaks, he did so for the purpose of exposing the “horrible things” being carried out by the U.S. Government.
 Referring to Manning’s detention before trial, Paul said, “Should he be locked up and imprisoned?” Manning should be seen as a “political hero” and “true patriot who reveals what’s going on,” Paul said.
 The Bradley Manning Support Network published an article saying that Paul believes that Manning is a “whistleblower” and his actions “are essential to the country.”
/quote]

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
- Notebook, 1904

Man is the only Patriot. He sets himself apart in his own country, under his own flag, and sneers at the other nations, and keeps multitudinous uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries, and keep them from grabbing slices of his. And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood of his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"- with his mouth.
- "The Lowest Animal"

[whork]

Yeah we love him hahaahahahahaahahahaahah . The Obamabots tried this crap in 2008. 100 individual donors (and not all were "Military", some were DoD Civs and Contractors).  So can we really make broad judgements about the military based on that number? We went over this last election.....when the Obamabots were screaming that the military loved Obama.  Yeah...you saw a sea of McCain stickers and the occasional Obama sticker...on a black DOD civilians car. Further...RP wants to cut the military and DOD. Its already happening with DOD civilians...do u think they're going to support RP? You guy is nuts...you know he's nuts and statements siding with a treasonous piece of shit like Manning only confirm it....yet you want to attack the part about military donantions.....wrong again.

So you like being in Middle East ground killing people for..what..??

[whork]

No military vote for Ron Paul? Is that why he's received more military donations than all the other Republican candidates combined?

Fast owning right there...

[24KT]

u people are some backwards thinking fucks man, jesus is this what the states is like you have these extreme right wing crazies taking over and claiming that because he broke his oath to a corrupt government that was putting his life and others on the line for lies and greed he should be punished, LOL the logic in you people is absurd.

you have these black and white views on life and im sorry life is not like that think for yourself for fucks sake, why would you obey an oath and law that is based on lies when its your life and those of your friends fighting the battle? use the chain of command? the top of the chain was the ones he was exposing again where is the logic here? tell the corrupt people they are corrupt? then you have this made up argument that has not one shred of evidence that he was putting the lives of his companions in danger, lol really? show me, prove it, do you not find it odd that you do not apply the same logic to the people above him putting their lives in danger as well? you are the people that withheld the blacks rights, the people who argue against gays etc..

grow up you mental midgets, become an adult and think for yourself.

if a law is morally corrupt i would not follow it just as you do not for many so called laws.

this is my only experience of people like you guys and i realize why the world is laughing as the looneys try to take hold. you got John Bonner walking out on talks like its nothing and you cheer him on towards tyrannical state. He handed out bribe checks for the tabacco lobby on the floor of congress HAHAHAHAHHAHAH, supporting him and his party of liars and thieves is ridiculous. Obama sucks just like ive been saying all along, you need a serious change or your country is going in the shitter.

Q&HFT

[24KT]

Manning fulfilled moral duty, conscience of US on trial

He's seen by many as one of the world's most renowned whistleblowers, but an enemy of the state by the US government. Now soldier Bradley Manning can be heard in his own voice explaining why he sent hundreds of thousands of classified documents to Wikileaks in 2010. In a new leaked audio recording from his court martial, Manning accuses the American army of not valuing human life, and says he wanted to provoke a debate about US foreign policy. LISTEN TO MANNING'S TESTIMONY HERE:

http://rt.com/usa/manning-trial-recording-leak-177/

[Roger Bacon]

Manning fulfilled moral duty, conscience of US on trial

this x10000

[Skip8282]

This shitbag is no hero and didn't do shit to usher in Arab Spring.  If found guilty, he needs to be shot.

Words of wisdom.  Keep up the good work Skip.