Barack Hussein Obama

[Fury]

Bad president or worst president? Discuss.

[JBGRAY]

How has his policies(or any president's) affected you personally?  I bet they haven't at all. 

[Shockwave]

Him and Jimmy Carter for worst, in no particular order.

[Skip8282]

Bad.  But his presidency really has to be judged in a historical context, so I think it's way too early to tell if it can be considered the worst.

[tu_holmes]

Bad... definitely a few worse.

He's certainly not good.

[Dos Equis]

Bad.  Will compete for worst ever by the time it is all said and done.  Inherited a mess and made it worse.  Much worse. 

[Hugo Chavez]

When you start adding bad on top of the last bad and that's been going on for a while then yea, he's the worst but he's not behind everything that made him the worst.  We need a president that's going to actually put a hault to the bullshit.  We don't need worse than Obama, we need Ron Paul.

[240 is Back]

x 2

we need ron paul.

newt and mitt will do very little to change where obama leaves them.

[Option D]

Bad.  Will compete for worst ever by the time it is all said and done.  Inherited a mess and made it worse.  Much worse. 

I just dont get this statement..

If we were in a declared recession (by definition) when he took over... and we are out of the recession (by definition)  right now,
Just how is it "much worse"..

This is a question for Beach

[Straw Man]

I just dont get this statement..

If we were in a declared recession (by definition) when he took over... and we are out of the recession (by definition)  right now,
Just how is it "much worse"..

This is a question for Beach

more like a global financial meltdown which continues to have reverberations presently and will continue into the forseeable future.

[Option D]

more like a global financial meltdown which continues to have reverberations presently and will continue into the forseeable future.

i just want to see the explanation of Way worse. Or like BF says "100 times worse"

[Soul Crusher]

I just dont get this statement..

If we were in a declared recession (by definition) when he took over... and we are out of the recession (by definition)  right now,
Just how is it "much worse"..

This is a question for Beach

LOL!!!! 

[Fury]

i just want to see the explanation of Way worse. Or like BF says "100 times worse"

You're still hanging on that, eh?

Is this country better off than it was before Obama? That's a definitive no.

You're welcome to hang onto that meaningless definition of a recession, too. We're in a depression and U6 in excess of 18% tells me most Americans don't care about what you want to call it.

[Option D]

3333 i didn't ask you as i knew you wouldn't have the brain power to discuss this in your own terms. So please explain in your own terms how Obama Deepened the declared recession to make it further a declared recession or shut the absolute fuck up.

[Soul Crusher]

You're still hanging on that, eh?

Is this country better off than it was before Obama? That's a definitive no.

You're welcome to hang onto that meaningless definition of a recession, too. We're in a depression and U6 in excess of 18% tells me most Americans don't care about what you want to call it.

I simply laugh out loud at posts like that.   It takes a seriously demented fool to not grasp how much worse off we are right now.  


Labor force particpation rate, aggreagate labor pool, amounts on social assistance, amounts in the U^, amounts who dropped off the radar, dramatically lower birth rate, et al.  


Only a delusional obamabot thinks that is ok.  They are a sad pathetic reflection of just how ignorant and incompetent the general population is.       

[Soul Crusher]

3333 i didn't ask you as i knew you wouldn't have the brain power to discuss this in your own terms. So please explain in your own terms how Obama Deepened the declared recession to make it further a declared recession or shut the absolute fuck up.

LOL!!!!   Bro - are you drunk?    THINGS ARE WORSE NOW THAN WHEN WE CAME INTO OFFICE BNY ALMOST ALL MEASURES ASSHOLE!   

[Straw Man]

333 seems to believe that when Obama got in office he was given a clean slate

he did not have to pay the interest on the debt accumulated by his predecessors

he did not have to continue the wars, bailouts, etc.. started by his predecessors

he didn't have to deal with a crashing GDP (much worse than we even knew at the time) or hemorrhaging unemployment

None of the actions of the prior 30 years are baked into the #'s

It all belongs to Obama

That's 333 Economics

[Option D]

You're still hanging on that, eh?

Is this country better off than it was before Obama? That's a definitive no.

You're welcome to hang onto that meaningless definition of a recession, too. We're in a depression and U6 in excess of 18% tells me most Americans don't care about what you want to call it.

And tell me how the recession isn't to blame for the unemployment but Obama is. Like i said. Im all for attributing his mistakes to him. But what i refuse to do is take a mob mentality and pile on unsubstantiated bullshit.

Obama care is pure shit
Gitmo is still open
Being a bitch about the tax breaks

But i cant say he did anything that the natural course of a recession didn't cause.

[Fury]

333 seems to believe that when Obama got in office he was given a clean slate

he did not have to pay the interest on the debt accumulated by his predecessors

he did not have to continue the wars, bailouts, etc.. started by his predecessors

he didn't have to deal with a crashing GDP (much worse than we even knew at the time) or hemorrhaging unemployment

None of the actions of the prior 30 years are baked into the #'s

It all belongs to Obama

That's 333 Economics

Boofuckinghoo. As if Obama is the only potus to enter officd in troubling economic times.  

God damn are you pathetic.

[Option D]

LOL!!!!   Bro - are you drunk?    THINGS ARE WORSE NOW THAN WHEN WE CAME INTO OFFICE BNY ALMOST ALL MEASURES ASSHOLE!   

Then why arent we in a declared recession..
its simple

if he came in.. and we were in a recession... like a declared one by the people who determine such things
if we were worse, we would be in a deeper recession as declared by the people who determine it..

[Soul Crusher]

LOL!!!! 

Bump for refutation of these stats.   

[Option D]

Boofuckinghoo. As if Obama is the only potus to enter officd in troubling economic times.  

God damn are you pathetic.

What is the natural course in terms of duration of time  of a recession that began on 2008.

[Fury]

And tell me how the recession isn't to blame for the unemployment but Obama is. Like i said. Im all for attributing his mistakes to him. But what i refuse to do is take a mob mentality and pile on unsubstantiated bullshit.

Obama care is pure shit
Gitmo is still open
Being a bitch about the tax breaks

But i cant say he did anything that the natural course of a recession didn't cause.

Obama and his lackeys have perpetuated the current economic environment through their actions, thus they are being held accountable.

[Option D]

Then why arent we in a declared recession..
its simple

if he came in.. and we were in a recession... like a declared one by the people who determine such things
if we were worse, we would be in a deeper recession as declared by the people who determine it..

bump for refutation of this fact

we were in a recession
we arent any more
as determined by the agency that declares such a status

[Straw Man]

Boofuckinghoo. As if Obama is the only potus to enter officd in troubling economic times.  

God damn are you pathetic.

I know Boo Hoo

Let's still just pretend Obama did it all himself