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the gh15 nut huggers and the guy himself have no idea. they never trained for any decent amount of time with success WITHOUT gear, so they tar everyone else who achieves.
there are absolutely no tell tale signs that layne juices...the myth that u cant get lean without gear is one propogated by gh15 himself.
people have been mega lean since the dawn of time..some can, some cant.
the odd person responds well to training and can get lean.
purely and simply, its genetics.
the problem is that most dont have these genetics so we have a ground swell of nay sayers ....its really just so they can feel good about their own inadequacies.
lets face it, if layne juiced, then he'd be holding more mass, stronger, and you'd see the odd sign such as gyno or acne or water bloat.
you dont see any of that...no extreme size, nothing really overly strong other than for a genetically gifted person, no obvious water retention..even in off season he looks pretty average.
i think he's giving a lesson to the haters..
look at some of the worlds top class sprinters..urine and blood tested dozens of times a year in and out of comp and they weigh a buck fifty but are ripped and look very muscular and are pretty strong.
There are literally thousands of wanna bes that take gear and still cant run as fast...or get as lean.
if u think that sprinting is still the domain of drug users, you'd be very wrong. NCAA im not so confident, but world stage, pretty clean.
so to the gh15 camp, explain that? theres loads mor examples. too many to list and too many to ignore. The gh15 camp just ignores it and makes ridiculous claims without basis or supporting evidence.
if it was a moderated debate then they'd be out with their tails between their legs, but unfortunately the mob rules on GB. in the real world we have intelligent people that can assess argument and determine what good evidence is and isnt, then make a decision.
its not a bunch of morons justifying their own existence and all slapping each other on the back saying "yeah, right on!"....and drowning out the facts.
you friend are a deep level retard,, your knowledge about bodybuild is close to zero and i truly mean it ,, both natural and hormonized,,even in the natural which doesnt exisist your knowledge is zero ,, you just talk balonie all the time its embarsing for you to be honest,,
the fella woudnt even be 175lb natural NOT EVEN 175 LB! ON STAGE NATURALY ,,LAY NORTOM WOULD BE 170 LB ON STAGE NATURALY AND HIS BODYFAT WOULD BE 7% OVER ALL IF TRULY NATURAL,,read the numbers agains that i just wrote above
1 7 0 7 % 5'11- 6 feet naturaly ,, THIS IS WHAT LAY NORTOM WOULO TRULY BE ON STAGE NATURALY!
gh15 approved
