Need someone to explain quantum mechanics to me

[G_Thang]

i know quantum torpedos.  

[tbombz]

Interesting how Tbombz said a couple of months ago that advanced maths are completely useless for the 99% of the population but somehow, while he's lacking knowledge about advanced maths, he's able to explain quantum mechanics. 

i cant explain quantum mechanics but i can use my head to spot logical fallacies when they are blatant.

lol, moleclar process, wtf is this guy talking about

listen, if time slows down then it slows down, wtf you are inventing new ideas in trying to understand old ones

you dont need to

theres no molecular process here, it is time that gets slowed down, not the molecular process, from the perpective of the molecule NOTHING CHANGES

there is no going near the speed of light, light is always going c faster than you no matter what, your skull is so thick no wonder u still wear diapers

define "time"

one second is one second, one minute is one minute. that is the definition. there is nothing in the world that can possibly change that.

if you count 60 seconds, then youve experienced one minute of time. regardless of what other beings have experienced during that oone minute.

if while you count to 60, some other guy is counting at what feels like the same rate to him, and to him he counts to 5 trillion and experiences 5 years of time, you didnt experience 5 years of time just because he did, you only experienced what you experienced. one minute.

one minute=one minute.   time does not speed up or slow down.

your experience of time in relation to other experiencing beings can change.. you might feel like one minute has gone by, and only aged one minute, while another person during that same span of time experienced 5 years and aged 5 years..   a minute is still a minute and 5 years is still 5 years. the difference is not in the speed of "time", the difference is  in the rate of molecular processes.. the rate at which cells age, the rate at which the mind operates..

[el numero uno]

i cant explain quantum mechanics but i can use my head to spot logical fallacies when they are blatant.

 

[HTexan]

Is anyone here familiar with Bell's Theorem and the concept of nonlocality (electrons being able to communicate with each other simultaneously)? I've been reading about it and it is driving me crazy because it just doesn't seem possible (I understand the results of the experiment, just not how this could be so). I figured most of the experts here on Getbig would have a good explanation.

oh boy!

 

[Tapeworm]

Is anyone here familiar with Bell's Theorem and the concept of nonlocality (electrons being able to communicate with each other simultaneously)? I've been reading about it and it is driving me crazy because it just doesn't seem possible (I understand the results of the experiment, just not how this could be so). I figured most of the experts here on Getbig would have a good explanation.

Can't speak about entanglement but sounds like he basically disagrees with the hidden variable position that QM is as deterministic as classical physics and we'd see that if only we could expose all the hidden variables in play.  I think that was Einstein and Bohr's point of contention.

[disco_stu]

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kind of odd someone would believe in a speed limit anyways.

they would believe in it because its the basic tenet of einstein's theories. those have proven to be very practically useful for nearly a century, and still are. So it makes sense that a speed limit could be believed.

But you are right, recent developments dont obey and some have only one conclusion..faster than speed of light. they are still inferred results though.

[disco_stu]

i cant explain quantum mechanics but i can use my head to spot logical fallacies when they are blatant.

define "time"

one second is one second, one minute is one minute. that is the definition. there is nothing in the world that can possibly change that.

if you count 60 seconds, then youve experienced one minute of time. regardless of what other beings have experienced during that oone minute.

if while you count to 60, some other guy is counting at what feels like the same rate to him, and to him he counts to 5 trillion and experiences 5 years of time, you didnt experience 5 years of time just because he did, you only experienced what you experienced. one minute.

one minute=one minute.   time does not speed up or slow down.

your experience of time in relation to other experiencing beings can change.. you might feel like one minute has gone by, and only aged one minute, while another person during that same span of time experienced 5 years and aged 5 years..   a minute is still a minute and 5 years is still 5 years. the difference is not in the speed of "time", the difference is  in the rate of molecular processes.. the rate at which cells age, the rate at which the mind operates..

nope. "time" is not a vector. its a plane. its proper term is "space time". "time" is just the reference we use on earth or anywhere local.

even the unit we measure the vector time by (oscillations of a certain atom), varies depending on where we are and what speed we are at and if we are near another object etc.
 

[disco_stu]

i cant explain quantum mechanics but i can use my head to spot logical fallacies when they are blatant.

define "time"

one second is one second, one minute is one minute. that is the definition. there is nothing in the world that can possibly change that.

if you count 60 seconds, then youve experienced one minute of time. regardless of what other beings have experienced during that oone minute.

if while you count to 60, some other guy is counting at what feels like the same rate to him, and to him he counts to 5 trillion and experiences 5 years of time, you didnt experience 5 years of time just because he did, you only experienced what you experienced. one minute.

one minute=one minute.   time does not speed up or slow down.

your experience of time in relation to other experiencing beings can change.. you might feel like one minute has gone by, and only aged one minute, while another person during that same span of time experienced 5 years and aged 5 years..   a minute is still a minute and 5 years is still 5 years. the difference is not in the speed of "time", the difference is  in the rate of molecular processes.. the rate at which cells age, the rate at which the mind operates..

rofl. wtf?!

you really are out of your depth tb.

stop now...its obvious you arent the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Radical Plato]

i cant explain quantum mechanics but i can use my head to spot logical fallacies when they are blatant.

define "time"

one second is one second, one minute is one minute. that is the definition. there is nothing in the world that can possibly change that.

if you count 60 seconds, then youve experienced one minute of time. regardless of what other beings have experienced during that oone minute.

if while you count to 60, some other guy is counting at what feels like the same rate to him, and to him he counts to 5 trillion and experiences 5 years of time, you didnt experience 5 years of time just because he did, you only experienced what you experienced. one minute.

one minute=one minute.   time does not speed up or slow down.

your experience of time in relation to other experiencing beings can change.. you might feel like one minute has gone by, and only aged one minute, while another person during that same span of time experienced 5 years and aged 5 years..   a minute is still a minute and 5 years is still 5 years. the difference is not in the speed of "time", the difference is  in the rate of molecular processes.. the rate at which cells age, the rate at which the mind operates..

time is relative.Time speeds up or slows down depending on how fast one thing is moving relative to something else. theoretically, the closer we come to traveling at the speed of light (186,000 miles per second), the more time would appear to slow down for us from the perspective of someone who, in relation to us, was not moving. Einstein called the slowing of time due to motion time dilation.

One of Albert Einstein's greatest insights was realizing that time is relative. It speeds up or slows down depending on how fast one thing is moving relative to something else.
 For example: E-Kul's parents decide to send him to summer camp in the Getbig-5 star system, which is 25 light-years away (a light-year is the distance light travels in a year). Bert doesn't want to go and stays home on Earth. So E-Kul sets out on his own. Wanting him to get there as quickly as possible, his parents pay extra and send him at 99.99 percent the speed of light.

The trip to the star and back takes 50 years. What happens when E-Kul returns? His twin brother is now 60 years old, but E-Kul is only 10 and a half. How can this be? E-Kul was away for 50 years but only aged by half a year. Has E-Kul just discovered the fountain of youth?

Not at all. E-Kul's trip into space lasted only a half year for him, but on Earth 50 years passed. Does this mean that E-Kul can live forever? Nope. He may have aged by only half a year in the time it took 50 years to pass on Earth, but he also only lived half a year. And since time can slow down but never goes backwards, there's no way he could grow younger.

[Radical Plato]

According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, objects gain mass as they accelerate to greater and greater speeds. Now, to get an object to move faster, you need to give it some sort of push. An object that has more mass needs a bigger push than an object with less mass. If an object reached the speed of light, it would have an infinite amount of mass and need an infinite amount of push, or acceleration, to keep it moving

[Radical Plato]

Atomic clocks are extremely accurate clocks, In 1971, scientists used these clocks to test Einstein's ideas - One atomic clock was set up on the ground, while another was sent around the world on a jet traveling at 600 mph. At the start, both clocks showed exactly the same time.

As Einstein had predicted, the clocks no longer showed the same time on return of the plane.

[PJim]

Tdongz; Jack of all trades, master of none.

[suckmymuscle]

i believe, though i might be mistaken, that the experiment was based on the idea that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. the "magic" communication between electrons was "proven" because in order to their to be some kind of mechanical communication going on it would have had to have occured at a speed faster than the speed of light. since this is (was) thought impossible, it is(was) assumed that there was some kind of "spooky" action going on between the electrons.

however the recent development with nuetrinos being observed going faster than the speed of light throws that idea out the window.

kind of odd someone would believe in a speed limit anyways.

  You are mistaken(as always). Now STFU retard.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[tbombz]

According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, objects gain mass as they accelerate to greater and greater speeds. Now, to get an object to move faster, you need to give it some sort of push. An object that has more mass needs a bigger push than an object with less mass. If an object reached the speed of light, it would have an infinite amount of mass and need an infinite amount of push, or acceleration, to keep it moving

first of all,  infinites do not exist.

secondly.. photons, which move at the speed of light, have such little mass that scientists refer to them as "massless" particles.

 

Atomic clocks are extremely accurate clocks, In 1971, scientists used these clocks to test Einstein's ideas - One atomic clock was set up on the ground, while another was sent around the world on a jet traveling at 600 mph. At the start, both clocks showed exactly the same time.

As Einstein had predicted, the clocks no longer showed the same time on return of the plane.

because the clock slowed down, not because "time" did. 

[tbombz]

nope. "time" is not a vector. its a plane. its proper term is "space time". "time" is just the reference we use on earth or anywhere local.

even the unit we measure the vector time by (oscillations of a certain atom), varies depending on where we are and what speed we are at and if we are near another object etc.
 

time is duration.  

one minute is 60 seconds.

60 minutes is one hour.

24 hours is one day.


these do not change.  no matter what speed your going.
 

it is said that for God 1 day is a thousand years on earth.
time is definitely relative. but it doesnt speed up or slow down.  

[haider]

time is duration. 

one minute is 60 seconds.

60 minutes is one hour.

24 hours is one day.


these do not change.  no matter what speed your going.
 

it is said that for God 1 day is like a thousand years on earth.


time is definitely relative. but it doesnt speed up or slow down. 

you're way over your head here dongz, and im not insulting your intelligence here. you are smart.

Just shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.

[tbombz]

you're way over your head here dongz, and im not insulting your intelligence here. you are smart.

Just shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.

 

please explain to me how i am wrong

one minute is one minute

are you trying to say different ?

[tbombz]

 You are mistaken(as always). Now STFU retard.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you think i am mistaken ? what part exactly ? that electrons are thought to communicate instantly, "magically", because the only way it would be possible for there to be a mechanical communication going on would be for it to be happening at faster than the speed of light? i do believe that part is correct..    

[haider]

please explain to me how i am wrong

one minute is one minute

are you trying to say different ?

its empirically proven that the speed you're travelling in affects how 'fast' time goes. They can measure time accurately enough so that they can tell the minute differences experiences in airway travel. Another easy example is that GPS sattelites (because of the high speeds theyre travelling at) have to be adjusted to 'earth time' otherwise the coordinates would be off.

Read up on it more on the internet, i am sure there are sufficient explanations.

[tbombz]

its empirically proven that the speed you're travelling in affects how 'fast' time goes. They can measure time accurately enough so that they can tell the minute differences experiences in airway travel. Another easy example is that GPS sattelites have to be adjusted to 'earth time' otherwise the coordinates would be off.

Read up on it more on the internet, i am sure there are sufficient explanations.

see, the problem here is the definition of "time".

im not debating that when speed increases mechanical processes slow down.

sure they do.

but one minute is always one minute. that never changes.

[haider]

see, the problem here is the definition of "time".

im not debating that when speed increases mechanical processes slow down.

sure they do.

but one minute is always one minute. that never changes.

Dude, just look it up. I could try explaining it but you would throw more at me to explain away.

It is a scientific fact that time slows down as you get closer to the speed of light. Anyone within the inertial frame will not experience it, so the 'mechanical processes' dont slow down, everything will take exactly the same amount of time to happen. Its just that for an outside observer it would look slowed down.

Its not an easy concept to intuit, read and let it sink in.

[apply85]

tbombz intelligent? no no no, he's not a retard, but now you start to see what exactly is the matter with this guy, go look at his religous discussions, he's a giant troll, will never ever be honest about anything

[apply85]

Dude, just look it up. I could try explaining it but you would throw more at me to explain away.

It is a scientific fact that time slows down as you get closer to the speed of light. Anyone within the inertial frame will not experience it, so the 'mechanical processes' dont slow down, everything will take exactly the same amount of time to happen. Its just that for an outside observer it would look slowed down.

Its not an easy concept to intuit, read and let it sink in.

scientific fact, no it is an observable phenomenon, but i have a feeling in 25 years there will be a new explanation for it, something on the quantum level, einstein will be given a pat on the back and then asked to step aside

[tbombz]

Dude, just look it up. I could try explaining it but you would throw more at me to explain away.

It is a scientific fact that time slows down as you get closer to the speed of light. Anyone within the inertial frame will not experience it, so the 'mechanical processes' dont slow down, everything will take exactly the same amount of time to happen. Its just that for an outside observer it would look slowed down.

Its not an easy concept to intuit, read and let it sink in.

 

i completely understand the concept broseph

mechanical processes slow down

 time is a record of mechanical processess- a duration in which X amount happens is Y unit of time

if the gears on a clock slow down, then a minute will take longer to go by

but if at the same time all the cells in your body slow down, the nuerons and brain activity too, then that minute will still only take a minute


not hard to understand.  




what im saying is that a minute is a minute. "time" doesnt change, doesnt speed up or slow down.  yet all you guys with your head stuffed in your asses who cant think on your own outside of what your professors and textbooks tell you are fighting with this extremely basic logical fact.

[tbombz]

tbombz intelligent? no no no, he's not a retard, but now you start to see what exactly is the matter with this guy, go look at his religous discussions, he's a giant troll, will never ever be honest about anything

bro -  causality - look into it