Please help with Acne my development.

[OptimusPrime1980]

i use ai year round. why? to prevent bloat from test.

lol.. just use less test then.... al that the extra test does is give you bloat...
test bloat is what you get when your body does not cope well with the given dose...
using ai or anti e's all year is not a healthy thing.... lol yeah i know like steroids are healthy... well they are not so bad....

[oliveiraugo]

yes this sounds more adequate for your size.

and jesus, eat cleaner, this will help with the acne itself.

the fatter you are the worse your estrogen convertion will be.

You wonīt believe, but i eat clean as hell.

Brown rice, chicken breast, sweet potato egg whites and fish all day...

Yeah, like I study steroids for years, but some things you only learn when u try it for yourself.

i dont even use supplements, the only supplements i do are Vita C, fish oil, tribulus, multivitamin...
and im always on ephedrine and t4. (mostly 25mg-50mg ephedrine/day and 100mcg/150mcg T4 day.)

This MUST be water, if all of that is fat im pretty fucked up... I know i look horrible, thatīs why I posted here.

[OptimusPrime1980]

ok theres good and bad news.

first the good, your acne isnt bad.

heres the bad news, your body is bad.

you look like shit.
you been on too much freaking steroids for a year, that is why youre bloated.and its not just water, its water and fat retention from estrogenic state.
are you even eating clean once in a while?

1g test a week and no gh,lol, what you think who you are,a pro?you got barely more size than a natty.

my advise, go off steroids for a while, train natty a bit.try to get somewhta lean and then go back to hormones again with half the dosage you used and a cleaner diet.

ffs

don't be so hard on the guy... he is asking for advice... he is at least trying to learn...
he does NOT look like shit... he is out of shape yes...and indeed a lot of water lololol!
he actualy has a decent bdb.... thick back... looks promising... sure not a lot of mass yet... but that is just a question of the right sups!
and get off steroids??
wtf this is a FUCKING bb board!! lol...
worst advice you can give a serious bodybuilder is go off the gear.... lol!
and the dude is serious , he just needs to adjust his products! but not go off!!!
go off = time lost!
 

[OptimusPrime1980]

You wonīt believe, but i eat clean as hell.

Brown rice, chicken breast, sweet potato egg whites and fish all day...

Yeah, like I study steroids for years, but some things you only learn when u try it for yourself.

i dont even use supplements, the only supplements i do are Vita C, fish oil, tribulus, multivitamin...
and im always on ephedrine and t4. (mostly 25mg-50mg ephedrine/day and 100mcg/150mcg T4 day.)

This MUST be water, if all of that is fat im pretty fucked up... I know i look horrible, thatīs why I posted here.

relax buddy!!!! stress wil let you hold water as well! lolol..... just kidding!
no most of it is water.....
your about 10% bodyfat... look 15 because of the water....
just do what i said.... the water will go away....
and the acne is bunk gear... nothing to do with diet... like i said dirty gear!!!!
seen that type of acne before....
do not listen to all these remarks here.... you will get lost....
you are not fat! you are a waterballoon....
you are using crap gear
2 things that can be solved easily....

[OptimusPrime1980]

ok ill be nicer from now to him.ofc he doesnt look all bad, but somethings wrong here.

bw when i said go off stroids, i meant mazbe 1 month or 6weeks, to deplete the body of the accumulated enanthate, then start again.

even in that "off" time thered be still plent enanthate in his blood and if he diets during that the water retention will be reduced, that was my point

i got your point bro.. just teasing a bit... but off time = lost time...
so that will be 6 weeks of lost time lolol! 
he just needs to lower the test... get quality gear....
get some tren ... keep in eq... up these 2 compounds...
get some proviron...
that will solve the water and acne problems....
i am telling you he reminds me of my buddy i was talking about.. lol!
and he got stage ready in weeks! so can this dude.... its mostly water... but a lot of water! lol!
he could loose 20 pouds of mostly water and look decent!

[OptimusPrime1980]

yes, forget about t3,t4, get efedrine if you can and start using pharma grade test.


btw, as far as bunk gear being responsible for acne, im not so sure if thats exclusive, ive been getting acne from pharmacy test, but mostly if i go and eat like adonis claims he does.

that said, his principles dont even work right on steroids, it kinda works if you get a calorie surplus, though.
in a deficit, its not any good not even for a geared up guy

agreed....
i eat whatever i want.. i just keep it healthy... common sense i think..
but really i do NOT diet, do not keep track of carbs or fats... or protein for that matter....
i look, and feel better then i ever did!
i eat 3 or 4 times a day.... make sure every meal has some protein , but like i said do not count it...
and eat when i am hungry... some days i eat 5 times others only 2....
adonis says it does not matter what you eat and that is bullshit.... i do eat healthy and good rich food...
a calorie is not a calorie....

[D.O.U.P]

lol.. lot of experts here...
you do hold waaaaaay to much water.... you do not know how to cycle....  
i like you bdb by the way.... looks promising actually....
you just hold a ton of water and a bit of fat ... and in the "wrong places" it makes you look like shit!
you should make sure you are in shape to look good... some people can get away with being 11/12 % you van not! but you are somewhere at 10% you look 15 lol... because of the water.
ok...
get rid of the test!
get some proviron from farmacia... and you have tren on the way like you saidtest....
masteron is hard to get in brazil, but in the farmacia they have proviron, which is a poor mans masterone..
low dose test only if needed.... use 50 mg eod and go from there.
your acne is from bunk gear dude.... seen it on a lot of guys.... it's bunk gear!!!
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
do this until you are in decent shape... water should go away...
and get a new source!
do not use diuretics off season , only use it for a show!
and eat good! a lot of you brazookas eat like crap!
arroz e frango!
ovos
carne.... picanha(tirando a gordura)... filet...
peixe
tipo comida caseira.. e gostoso e deixa o cara sarado!
eat 3 /4 times a day.... when hungry...
when not so hungry eat less... very simpel.. lol....
listen to your body...
Boa Sorte...

SPOT ON.

[monstermunch]

For a someone's first cycle, do you recommend 250mg or 500mg test a week? Thanks   

[BIG_STI]

haha 200lbs at 12% bf and on multiple compounds for years. You must have some bunk ass gear

[oliveiraugo]

Thanks optimusprime and galeniko

I will be mostly doing that.

I have some stanozolol here too.

So I will basicaly do

Test Prop 50mg EOD
Stanozolol 100mg EOD
Equipona 500mg Weekly
ACE TRENB 75mg EOD (Donīt have it yet, its on the way.)
Proviron 50mg Day (Working on a source.)

I will use some tamoxifen to help estrogen go down since I have a box here.

[Hulkotron]

Maybe the doc can take care of your bitch-tits while he's at it.

[monstermunch]

try as low as possible and see how it works and then take it from there.

your own test production will be shot even from 250mg weekly, so that shouldnt even be an issue.

Thanks, should I throw in some dbol or since its my first cycle, just test so I know how I react to it?

Also, since its my first cycle do you believe in PCT or like most people here, no such thing as OFF?

[Kervin]

i have had pretty bad acne on my back and 2 things almost totaly eliminated it, wash with dish washing soap no joke... and go sunbanking few times or however u call it there it will be gone in no time!

[Omega]

I fear that more young people without a clue will fuck themselves up be reading info not required for the majority.

[ChevChelios]

Yeap going out in the sun solved lots of acnee related problems.

BUT FOR CRYING OUT LOD

DO NOT ADD D-BOL ON YOUR ALREADY 1 GRAM TEST CYCLE.

YOU WILL BULK EVEN HEAVIER WITH WATER.

[tupiniskin]

IMO information should be available to EVERYONE. What you do with this information is up to you.

[deceiver]

50mg of prop eod + no atd < 100mg of prop eod + atd when it comes to size and strength for me. and ai is not that bad as long as you make sure you get your estrogen back to NORMAL

"your acne is from dirty gear... garanteed..."

bullshit. i ran pharm grade test from jelfa and i had acne.

[jubaredondo]

Sorry GH here is pretty expensive, im on budget right now. I will began on 4ui daily maybe at the end of the year. (chinese GH off course, cause pharm GH here costs like 100 dolars for 12ui.)

This sound brazilian 

[OptimusPrime1980]

50mg of prop eod + no atd < 100mg of prop eod + atd when it comes to size and strength for me. and ai is not that bad as long as you make sure you get your estrogen back to NORMAL

"your acne is from dirty gear... garanteed..."

bullshit. i ran pharm grade test from jelfa and i had acne.

lol..... you are a steroid virgin are you?
jelfa = omnadren.... that is dirty gear....!! it's from poland and they are not very strict there concerning sterility.. thanks for confirming my point!  any bodybuilder with some real expertise knows this...
get your facts straight...

his acne is from dirty gear.... just like i said...
and go and use ai's or anti e's year round... sure....
that is not needed at gymrat level .... just lower test and up tren /eq/whatever compound that does not get you to hold lots of water...
and not everybody does well on high test... like i said my buddy got 5th at world masters on 25 mg of test p eod... rest of compounds were skyhigh though...
how many guys have you helped with your "advice"

[OptimusPrime1980]

well, me, i have no goals of becoming bigger, i been there doing the ridiculous cycles etc, these days i try to maintain with minimm effort.
if i go off, i go off of everything and i never do pct, frankly, its useless and the body will crash and no pct will fix long use overnight.
usualy i do this when theres a time where i dont feel like working out at all or am too busy.

but until you havent reached your goal, i wouldnt go off at all, expect for medical reasons/if you get too hefty sides.

as for gear usage in general, i personaly do use the least amount when growing, and then increase the amount for dieting.
calories greatly help for growing and you can run less gear while building weight, thats what a former pro told me a while ago, and i found it to be true for me.

so yeah, my view is to keep hormone usage low while building(dont confuse this with off season, never get unreasonably fat) and go higher during diet, bc it helps keeping up agressiveness for training and prevents the body from eating its own muscle in diet.

so, do a 250mg test week cycle for 6months and eat clean and alot, allow yourself even fastfood, can be daily once, as long you dont get fat doing it.

cheers.

agreed on the pct!!!
pct is useless... and they still do not get it! lol!
i never used pct never ever!!
neither used anti e's or ai's for that matter....
and yes a lot of guys i know also up the dose while dieting.... test gets lower yes.. but the rest.. well... lol! skyhigh... 
good post...

[chess315]

maybe get some doxycycline an anitbiotic that always cleared me up. I dont think you look so bad just bloated but have quite a bit of muscle mass. dandruff shampoo with zinc can help also somtimes zinc kills bacteria thats the cheapest options since you said money is a concern. That doxycycline work good though

[Omega]

IMO information should be available to EVERYONE. What you do with this information is up to you.

We will see more natural selection in which case..

[deceiver]

"jelfa = omnadren.... that is dirty gear....!! it's from poland and they are not very strict there concerning sterility.. "

hahaha what? I come from Poland and I can guarantee you Jelfa meets every international standard regarding their products sterility. Poland is a member of European Union and therefore Polish products meet every European standard there is.

[polychronopolous]

What was the stuff gene used to finally heal his acne?

[Omega]

lol..... you are a steroid virgin are you?
jelfa = omnadren.... that is dirty gear....!! it's from poland and they are not very strict there concerning sterility.. thanks for confirming my point!  any bodybuilder with some real expertise knows this...
get your facts straight...

his acne is from dirty gear.... just like i said...
and go and use ai's or anti e's year round... sure....
that is not needed at gymrat level .... just lower test and up tren /eq/whatever compound that does not get you to hold lots of water...
and not everybody does well on high test... like i said my buddy got 5th at world masters on 25 mg of test p eod... rest of compounds were skyhigh though...
how many guys have you helped with your "advice"

Buddy dirty gear is not the only cause of acne.
Thats just ridiculous and Jelfa is still pharma gear.