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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #225 on: January 16, 2012, 05:08:23 PM »
What's the best exercise for traps? Does it matter which grip is used for upright rows?

power cleans, snatch, deadlifts. There is no one best exercise but for somebody looking for maximum development those are the best movements. Or you could do the upright rows and shrugs like everybody else.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #226 on: January 16, 2012, 06:45:58 PM »
The only "dumb fucktard" here is you.



Haha, cross-of-iron, are you saying you'd like to see a video of a bodybuilder who can barely bench 405 on a free barbell put up seven plates on a smith machine?

Pro bodybuilders bench up to 7 plates a side on the smith, but they can barely bench 4 on the flat bench.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #227 on: January 16, 2012, 06:51:10 PM »
thats why i dont bench

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #228 on: January 17, 2012, 06:43:36 AM »
This is exactly right, yes.  The shirt creates net torques about the joints that the lifter otherwise could not create on their own.  Anyone with any basic understanding of mechanics can tell you this.

  Then put your money where your mouth is and come up with a device that creates torque only around the shoulders but does not provide some degree of immobilization for all torso muscles like the benching shirt does thus allowing you to focus more sarcomeres to move the weight rather than balancing it. Let's see how far that takes you. You will tear your rotator cuff and won't be able to bench maybe more than 5% more weight.

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The semantic distinction between "torque" and "moment (of force)" varies from field to field and, in my experience, is only used by people who don't have something more interesting to say (hmm....).

  Actually, the distinction is obvious to anyone who has half a brain. Too bad you don't.

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"Truth" is obtained through the scientific method, not some philosophical "logic" bullshit.  Hope this helps.

  The scientific method uses logic, you moron, by eliminating extraneous variables and establishing causality between variable "X" and effect "Y". And logic is merely a philosophical concept? Oh, really? Go tell that to mathematicians, who rely on logic to create the mathematical models to explain physical phenomena. Go tell that to chemists, who use logic to assertain the synthesis necessary to create new compounds.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #229 on: January 17, 2012, 07:28:54 AM »
SMM, are you a researcher in a university? I've been reading some of your nutrition stuff and the depth you display is impressive, leads me to believe you do this on a professional basis.

Pity that you're an otherwise drab, obnoxious, humourless cunt.

Also keep in mind that 'suckmymuscle' claims to be a 6'4 350lb perfect specimen of a human being that can break the spine of a german shepherd with his bare hands. I think what we've got here is someone similar to True Adonis... likes to make huge claims for himself, comes off as fairly knowledgeable although it's pretty obvious he's only a layman and not professionally educated in these fields and above all, enjoys trolling.
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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #230 on: January 17, 2012, 08:18:42 AM »
SMM, are you a researcher in a university? I've been reading some of your nutrition stuff and the depth you display is impressive, leads me to believe you do this on a professional basis.

Pity that you're an otherwise drab, obnoxious, humourless cunt.

LMAO ;D

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #231 on: January 17, 2012, 08:26:49 AM »
Also keep in mind that 'suckmymuscle' claims to be a 6'4 350lb perfect specimen of a human being that can break the spine of a german shepherd with his bare hands. I think what we've got here is someone similar to True Adonis... likes to make huge claims for himself, comes off as fairly knowledgeable although it's pretty obvious he's only a layman and not professionally educated in these fields and above all, enjoys trolling.
You may be right ,but I have witnessed the True Adonis de-spine a German Shepherd while whipping up a batch of "Thomas Jefferson Muffins" without so much as missing a beat,so that gives TA far more credibility in this particular instance.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #232 on: January 17, 2012, 08:41:12 AM »
Love all of these "scientific" theories by SMM and the only one's that make sense are the one's by Hulkotron. But what it comes down to is.....are your clients getting results? SMM....what about YOUR clients?

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #233 on: January 17, 2012, 08:47:34 AM »
Love all of these "scientific" theories by SMM and the only one's that make sense are the one's by Hulkotron. But what it comes down to is.....are your clients getting results? SMM....what about YOUR clients?
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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #234 on: January 17, 2012, 09:59:45 AM »
Also keep in mind that 'suckmymuscle' claims to be a 6'4 350lb perfect specimen of a human being that can break the spine of a german shepherd with his bare hands. I think what we've got here is someone similar to True Adonis... likes to make huge claims for himself, comes off as fairly knowledgeable although it's pretty obvious he's only a layman and not professionally educated in these fields and above all, enjoys trolling.

I believe it's 6'5 and you've left out the gene therapy which made him superhuman, the millionaire parents who own casinos across the french coast, the rank of lieutenant he achieved in the united states special forces, the hunt for terrorists in afghanistan and a host of other totally reasonable claims ;D ;D

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #235 on: January 17, 2012, 10:51:22 AM »
Love all of these "scientific" theories by SMM and the only one's that make sense are the one's by Hulkotron. But what it comes down to is.....are your clients getting results? SMM....what about YOUR clients?

Probably because I'm an actual human movement scientist who does actual peer-reviewed research.  What are SuckMyProlapsedAnus's credentials ???

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #236 on: January 17, 2012, 01:57:19 PM »
Probably because I'm an actual human movement scientist who does actual peer-reviewed research.  What are SuckMyProlapsedAnus's credentials ???

  Bwa ha ha ha ha...what a fucking retard...nice use of scientific jargon there.

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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #237 on: February 09, 2012, 06:35:44 PM »
1. smoke a bowl

2. delete all this name calling bullshit

3. watch more kaz

4. repeat as needed

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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #239 on: May 13, 2012, 08:38:02 AM »
 David Mirza, listen to me. You are a fat queer and a complete loser. You got owned by Derek Anthony, a homosexual. How you have the balls to come back to this board is beyond me. Have you no shame ??? You are a fat piece of shit and you look like garbage. You are short, ugly, fat and stupid. You truly are a trailer park loser with no life. How can a 5'7 fat loser such as yourself criticize anyone for physique-building skills is beyond me. Seriously, queer, STFU or I will start picking on you until you cry. Just like Derek Anthony did.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #240 on: May 13, 2012, 08:41:07 AM »
Imagine if suckmymuscle was ever outed.  That would go down as one of the best ever for sure.


you got your wish bro!

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #241 on: May 13, 2012, 10:02:27 AM »
Tore his pec on his second press with 385.. jusding from how he struggled with 365.. he should have quit while he was ahead..
ouch

can't watch don't need anymore bad kharma. ;D ;D
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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #242 on: May 13, 2012, 07:13:47 PM »
can't watch don't need anymore bad kharma. ;D ;D

Guaranteed, that pec tear was blamed on the white man.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #243 on: May 13, 2012, 08:29:45 PM »
His spotter should have done a better job. He saw the way he handled the first rep he should of been more cautious the 2nd time around.

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Re: Pec tear bench press disaster (video)
« Reply #244 on: May 13, 2012, 08:40:34 PM »
His spotter should have done a better job. He saw the way he handled the first rep he should of been more cautious the 2nd time around.
exactly he didnt get the first weight clean shouldnt have gone in on the heavier weight
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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #245 on: May 13, 2012, 10:55:28 PM »
I've got a few articles floating around if anyone cares to look them up...

heres the bottom line boys:

bench press sucks because it's  a very bad position for the shoulders, not unlike the throwing position in baseball, etc...

we aren't naturally built for the bench as most people have one arm slightly longer than the other, which automatically places the stress on the longer arm/ shoulder, especially at the bottom of the movement

The straight bar automatically put your shoulder/ pec into a bad position as its an unnatural one....unless you walk with you knuckles dragging on the ground...out hands are naturally angled.

most people have one arm weaker than the other, which only emphasis the above, especially if the weaker arm is the longer one

Unless you're built for the bench....short, stocky, short arms, barrel chest....AND have the proper technique....the bench should ONLY be used as just another exercise for chest, no different and no more importance than a pec deck, fly or decline....

I did 405 about 7 years ago and my shoulder was sore for nearly three weeks. A few days prior, I'd done an even 400. I didn't tear anything. But, at that point, I figured enough was enough.

I just wanted to prove to myself that I could legitimately bench press 400+ on my own (as in, the spotter just helped me unrack it and doesn't touch the weight unless I absolutely can't move it). I haven't tried it since September 2005.

Now, I concentrate on inclines. Since I usually work with 315-335, I figure I can do over 400 on the flat. But, instead of flat bench presses, I use the vertical chess press machine.



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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #246 on: May 14, 2012, 05:53:44 PM »
I did 405 about 7 years ago and my shoulder was sore for nearly three weeks. A few days prior, I'd done an even 400. I didn't tear anything. But, at that point, I figured enough was enough.

I just wanted to prove to myself that I could legitimately bench press 400+ on my own (as in, the spotter just helped me unrack it and doesn't touch the weight unless I absolutely can't move it). I haven't tried it since September 2005.

Now, I concentrate on inclines. Since I usually work with 315-335, I figure I can do over 400 on the flat. But, instead of flat bench presses, I use the vertical chess press machine.




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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #247 on: May 14, 2012, 06:49:32 PM »
WOW!..those Muscle-Tech products are really working for you

So are the ones from VPX, Vitamin Shoppe, Inner Armour, Vitamin World, Body Fortress, etc.


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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #248 on: May 16, 2012, 09:18:39 PM »
So are the ones from VPX, Vitamin Shoppe, Inner Armour, Vitamin World, Body Fortress, etc.



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Re: Pec tear bench disaster (video)
« Reply #249 on: May 16, 2012, 11:01:38 PM »
Tore mine with 405 on my 7th rep when I was 40. Flame on.

You're not very smart, otherwise it wouldn't have happened.