1950s and 1960s bodybuilders - were they natural back then?

[jude2]

I might add that theseguys had the original D-Bol which was awesome shit made by CIBA Labs....one 5mg. pill was more potent than a bunch of that pink Thai bullshit.

Truth. Same reason people now need 15 to 20 iu's of gh. Weak fake products.

[stuntmovie]

Decca, Anavar, Primo, .......

I'm making a few calls in an attempt to recall what and how much was taken back then.

I haven't read all of the above yet but a few comments offered by WES are just about 100% correct if my memory serves me right.

Back in them old days there were no secrets because everything was legal and everyone was experimenting and letting each other know what was working and what was not .... and the doctors had to research the PDR every time a bodybuilder had an appointment.

And the AMA claimed that steroids were only beneficial due to the placebo affect.

[BILL ANVIL]

I hear ya` bud,I still love to train hard,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it`s almost like a daily tonic and definately a big part of my life.

Of course I`m no Larry Scott,but then again,there can only be one. 

You got it man.. keeps me from drinking so its like my trusty coping mechanism, and as an added bonus it keeps me clinically sane too..      and Scott did have great genetics, Arnold himself said he considered Larry to have 'perfect' arms, read that in his Encyclopedia I think.

[lyquid]

always hear the underdosed thing going around. Ya sure lots of labs do that or fake product. But there hae been may labs aswell that over dosed products too.. And companys or people like aabolics books william testing products and exposing the truth. And a good amount of labs do put in what's on the label.

there will be 10mg dbol tabs with 11 or 12mg dbol chemical in it. Yet there arnt a bunch of arnolds around poping this 10 or 20mg dbol.

lets face it. The article did say itself people were getting others scripts or forging names ad realized five gave more results so why not take more.


also honesty so much bullshit. The olympic teams having such huge prostates they had to use cathetors........ My shits real atleast my test I get blood test and you wouldn't believe how high it comes up. No doubt its real.

you know what. My prostates fine. No trouble peeing no symptoms on top of where I live free health care so always on top of things. And prostate exam super healthy all blood test psa super healthy. So really. Taking small amounts caused tonnes a whole olypic team ad so om to use cathetors........ Yea ok... More like the truth is they didn't know the long term side effects and there job was to train all day super hard and probably injected 1ml of test between sets everyday. That's why there prostates were bursting out of there grions.

we all here use grams of test and more lots of the guys here. And many don't use finasteride for prostate or saw palmetto cause of scared of missing gains from blocking androgens.... Yet everyone here seems to be pretty fucking healthy too. Guarantee just from reading all the obvious clues these guys were on more than todays pros. Only thing missing is the gh and slin is why they were smaller with prostaes size of basketballs.

fuck on ssb yrs ago there was old as fuck guys on there huge ones to. I remember the one old man said he crusies on fucking 100mg dbol a day... Crusies.... To keep gains tha blast the shit out of sbol and others.

tell me people where are the cathetors (sp?) lol.

brb I'm using 100mg test ad 10mg dbol gotta go force myself to pee.

[Figo]

Test was identified long before, the germans started making and administering synthetic test in the early 30s, usa a little later, mid 30s

Ziegler recommended whatever dosages, the guys did the usual man-math of "if this works, I'll multiply it by 10" , ortiz was known for handfuls of dbol

I reckon the guys were on 100mg dbol minimum per day, and we're talking "then dbol", the real deal, not todays dbol.


Another can of worms, park, reeves, grimek had test (synthetic) available to use
I'm pretty sure because their ethics were so much stronger than todays bbers, they chose not to use that advantage.
Reeves mentions his knowledge of "juice" as a kid after few months of training and a guy at the gym asking if he was on. He said he thought it was oj or something, then found out it was steroids. If reeves had steroids around as a newbie, then they were around in the 30s for sure, but obviously because it was the holy reeves, and the blue collar grimek they wouldn't do it, even though it was legal , and not frowned upon, few knew of the existence, these moral rocks chose to take the high road...

[BILL ANVIL]

Test was identified long before, the germans started making and administering synthetic test in the early 30s, usa a little later, mid 30s

Ziegler recommended whatever dosages, the guys did the usual man-math of "if this works, I'll multiply it by 10" , ortiz was known for handfuls of dbol

I reckon the guys were on 100mg dbol minimum per day, and we're talking "then dbol", the real deal, not todays dbol.


Another can of worms, park, reeves, grimek had test (synthetic) available to use
I'm pretty sure because their ethics were so much stronger than todays bbers, they chose not to use that advantage.
Reeves mentions his knowledge of "juice" as a kid after few months of training and a guy at the gym asking if he was on. He said he thought it was oj or something, then found out it was steroids. If reeves had steroids around as a newbie, then they were around in the 30s for sure, but obviously because it was the holy reeves, and the blue collar grimek they wouldn't do it, even though it was legal , and not frowned upon, few knew of the existence, these moral rocks chose to take the high road...

i think this is a pretty accurate post, especially about them not being enticed towards the easy road.

[chess315]

i think this is a pretty accurate post, especially about them not being enticed towards the easy road.

its pretty much been came clean what arnold used from a 70s wrestler he trained with who got all of his advice from arnold. And yes with out a doubt they where mega dosing. For that matter if it was that easy all them guys on anabolicminds poping superdrol non stop would be arnolds running around.

[chess315]

for instance take tbombz and myself both fairly large to the general public but dont look near like arnold and company and we both have been athletes meaning we at least have decent genetics. We both use near a 1gm of gear a week and Im telling you, you just arent going to get much bigger then 6ft 230 10% on that dosing. Unless your a genetic freak or short and compact. Look around on here at everyone who claims a 1gram of gear usage that isn't someone that has motive to lie.On top of that 100mg of dbol a day will kick 1gm of test or decas ass around the block 2 or 3 times

[hazbin]

Test was identified long before, the germans started making and administering synthetic test in the early 30s, usa a little later, mid 30s

Ziegler recommended whatever dosages, the guys did the usual man-math of "if this works, I'll multiply it by 10" , ortiz was known for handfuls of dbol

I reckon the guys were on 100mg dbol minimum per day, and we're talking "then dbol", the real deal, not todays dbol.


Another can of worms, park, reeves, grimek had test (synthetic) available to use
I'm pretty sure because their ethics were so much stronger than todays bbers, they chose not to use that advantage.
Reeves mentions his knowledge of "juice" as a kid after few months of training and a guy at the gym asking if he was on. He said he thought it was oj or something, then found out it was steroids. If reeves had steroids around as a newbie, then they were around in the 30s for sure, but obviously because it was the holy reeves, and the blue collar grimek they wouldn't do it, even though it was legal , and not frowned upon, few knew of the existence, these moral rocks chose to take the high road...

Grimek won the Mr. America two years in a row. the second year he was 39 pounds heavier than the first year.

[Figo]

Grimek won the Mr. America two years in a row. the second year he was 39 pounds heavier than the first year.

I was trying to use subtle sarcasm so the reeves and grimek, park fans that believe in the easter bunny wouldn't shit their pants. Maybe too subtle

Of course they used, they all used

[wes]

I was trying to use subtle sarcasm so the reeves and grimek, park fans that believe in the easter bunny wouldn't shit their pants. Maybe too subtle

Of course they used, they all used

That`s a given, if not,they would never have look like they did.

[Cleanest Natural]

Test was identified long before, the germans started making and administering synthetic test in the early 30s, usa a little later, mid 30s

Ziegler recommended whatever dosages, the guys did the usual man-math of "if this works, I'll multiply it by 10" , ortiz was known for handfuls of dbol

I reckon the guys were on 100mg dbol minimum per day, and we're talking "then dbol", the real deal, not todays dbol.


Another can of worms, park, reeves, grimek had test (synthetic) available to use
I'm pretty sure because their ethics were so much stronger than todays bbers, they chose not to use that advantage.
Reeves mentions his knowledge of "juice" as a kid after few months of training and a guy at the gym asking if he was on. He said he thought it was oj or something, then found out it was steroids. If reeves had steroids around as a newbie, then they were around in the 30s for sure, but obviously because it was the holy reeves, and the blue collar grimek they wouldn't do it, even though it was legal , and not frowned upon, few knew of the existence, these moral rocks chose to take the high road...

lol @ "moral rocks"

You are spot on Figo.

[wes]

lol @ "moral rocks"

You are spot on Figo.

Yes he is.......anyone that would believe otherwise would just be 'goolible' ! 

[DK II]

they look diesel!

[Cleanest Natural]

they look diesel!

You'd look diesel too on the insane amount of shit these "moral rocks" were on.

[DK II]

You'd look diesel too on the insane amount of shit these "moral rocks" were on.

 


But they only used small amounts, and back then 5mg of dianabol where 10000 times stronger than 5mg of dianabol today. 

[wes]

But they only used small amounts, and back then 5mg of dianabol where 10000 times stronger than 5mg of dianabol today. 

IT WAS GAWDAMMIT !!!

 






























 

[Dr Dutch]

And they took desicated liver tablets with their whole milk...

[wes]

...and brewers yeast and protein pills!

[Cleanest Natural]

But they only used small amounts, and back then 5mg of dianabol where 10000 times stronger than 5mg of dianabol today. 

STFU!

Reeves was a greek god reincarnated. He was like an angel from heaven who would never take shitload of stuff, lie about it, take cock, lie about it, being obsessive compulsive, etc.

[DK II]

IT WAS GAWDAMMIT !!!

 

 

Yeah because the molecular structure of Dianabol is impossible to re-create.


All kangaroo meat, raw goat milk and sweet potatoes.

[wes]

Don`t be talking `bout Reeves now Willis!

[DK II]

STFU!

Reeves was a greek god reincarnated. He was like an angel from heaven who would never take shitload of stuff, lie about it, take cock, lie about it, being obsessive compulsive, etc.

True, only thing he'd have was some self-grown bee honey with raw goat milk PWO, and he had never heard of testosterone propionate, despite having been in the military and test being around since the 1930s.....

[wes]

True, only thing he'd have was some self-grown bee honey with raw goat milk PWO, and he had never heard of testosterone propionate, despite having been in the military and test being around since the 1930s.....

Correct............good post.

[DK II]

Correct............good post.

 

Reeves was natural, Arnold took one super-power dbol a day, Zane only half a tab because he was small and had a swimmer's physique. Serge Nubret was natural because he was black and had awesome genetics. Mentzer was big because of HIT, and he only took one dbol e3d.