Oh God and Jesus , YOU GUYS are just too funny!

[devilsmile]

Replace "god" with the tooth fairy and your post is equally meaningless.

delete all the words in your post and you would make an equal amount of sense.

[Wiggs]

As athiests, I don't understand why some you feel the need to shit on someones beliefs, what gets them through the day, week, month, year or hard times. Is your life so perfect in all aspects as to sit back judge people on how they get through their lives? This is what I find disturbing.

[devilsmile]

As athiests, I don't understand why some you feel the need to shit on someones beliefs, what gets them through the day, week, month, year or hard times. Is your life so perfect in all aspects as to sit back judge people on how they get through their lives? This is what I find disturbing.

Just to make my point accross, my beliefs don't help me go through shit. I just think it's common sense god exists, that's all.

I was an atheist many years, but I then kind of "saw the light". Not because I needed comfort, not because I needed a friend, not because of any of that emo shit but because I saw how this world is going round. That's how I see it.

I don't base my life on my beliefs one bit but I still have them.

[Growth NOOB]

delete all the words in your post and you would make an equal amount of sense.

No.  What I said makes perfect sense.

You either are too ashamed to admit it or your religious indoctrination won't permit any logic or reason to permeate your brain.


All of what you wrote was utterly meaningless until you demonstrate there is a god.  Hence, why I said to replace god with tooth fairy and your post would be equally meaningless.

Can you try and intelligently defend your beliefs now or will you resort to lame insults?

[Growth NOOB]

Just to make my point accross, my beliefs don't help me go through shit. I just think it's common sense god exists, that's all.

I was an atheist many years, but I then kind of "saw the light". Not because I needed comfort, not because I needed a friend, not because of any of that emo shit but because I saw how this world is going round. That's how I see it.

I don't base my life on my beliefs one bit but I still have them.

Explain how god existing is common sense.  Then explain how it is the god you personally believe in.

[Wiggs]

Just to make my point accross, my beliefs don't help me go through shit. I just think it's common sense god exists, that's all.

I was an atheist many years, but I then kind of "saw the light". Not because I needed comfort, not because I needed a friend, not because of any of that emo shit but because I saw how this world is going round. That's how I see it.

I don't base my life on my beliefs one bit but I still have them.

I haven't read though all the posts but my comments were directed mainly to Mr. Adonis. Not you young lad.
I am an atheist but I follow (proudly) christian principles and if I were to have a family I would raise my children in the same manner. I want to believe but my brilliant mind tells me it is not true.  

I am very spiritual (thanks MJ) and know there are many things we don't understand but I don't believe in a deity but don't talk shit about people that do.

[tbombz]

The Big Bang was the cause of the universe as we know it today.  This is based on testable, falsifiable evidence.  

Saying "god did it" is not only useless, it is utterly meaningless until it is shown a god exists.


Science doesn't claim to know everything like most religions claim to know.  However, science is constantly working on figuring these mysteries out while the opposite is true for religion.

what caused the big bang? where did all that matter and energy come from? what causes things to happen?


i can ask you.. "what causes lightening?".. and you can give me a mechanical explanation all the way back to the big bang.. millions maybe trillions of steps in a process that led to that singular lightening strike... but at the end of that chain the question still remains "what caused THAT?"    so the only correct answer to the question "what caused that to happen?" , whether the subject at hand is lightening, the wind, the rotation of the earth, the formation of a star, or the big bang ... is "we will never know" 

[devilsmile]

Yess wiggs I understood you... I was kind of just pointing to your post while explaining to Growth noob here.

growth noob you're the one resolting to insults here, tough guy  

and you allready assume I denye common sense and logic which is not the case at all

I have no reason to debate about this topic because I have debated this gazillion times with the likes of you and I don't have any need to prove my self, lol, lastly to you

debating with you would be like playing chess while both of us having our own rules to play with and it just doesn't work, so why bother.

But I give you some releif, I agree that science is allways 100% correct but science can't explain things that are truly bizarre and paranormal. Because there is a spiritual realm beyond science.

[tbombz]

Explain how god existing is common sense.  Then explain how it is the god you personally believe in.

have you ever seen something happen that didnt have a cause ? 

(btw, if god exists, god exists. it doesnt matter if there are 5,000 different names for him, 20,000 different conceptions of what he truly is, and 1,000,000 different religions.  )

[dr.chimps]

have you ever seen something happen that didnt have a cause ? 

(btw, if god exists, god exists. it doesnt matter if there are 5,000 different names for him, 20,000 different conceptions of what he truly is, and 1,000,000 different religions.  )

You should be in 3rd/final year, now. What's your major? What your thesis? 

[tbombz]

You should be in 3rd/final year, now. What's your major? What your thesis? 

should be in my 5th year champ..

you ever want to contribute to a discussion, or you just want to sit on the sidelines making derogatory comments pretending your well read/insightful ? 

[Nirvana]

Everybody's an atheist, until shit happens.  A car comes head on in your lane and you throw your hands up and start singing that "Jesus Take The Wheel" song.

Your kid's about dead (yes I'm bringing getbiggers kids up) and you start begging God saying how sorry you are and how you'll change, blah blah blah.


Whether or not god's real is irrelevant, a lot of atheists will be guilty of the same thing they patronize christians for.

And of course you can google search an instance where someone lost everything and was still atheist but I'm talking more along the lines of reality.

[Van_Bilderass]

 I like some of this guy's stuff:

http://www.samharris.org/

[dr.chimps]

should be in my 5th year champ..

you ever want to contribute to a discussion, or you just want to sit on the sidelines making derogatory comments pretending your well read/insightful ?  

Academic suspension it is, Chumleigh. How do your parents keep up with all your disappointments?  

[devilsmile]

Everybody's an atheist, until shit happens.  A car comes head on in your lane and you throw your hands up and start singing that "Jesus Take The Wheel" song.

Your kid's about dead (yes I'm bringing getbiggers kids up) and you start begging God saying how sorry you are and how you'll change, blah blah blah.


Whether or not god's real is irrelevant, a lot of atheists will be guilty of the same thing they patronize christians for.

And of course you can google search an instance where someone lost everything and was still atheist but I'm talking more along the lines of reality.

this is not why I started to believe in god but I know what you mean.

I started to believe in god when I found out that mainstream music, hollywood movies and politicians are practising satanic agenda. Look it up in youtube yourself even if you are an atheist, you can't denye the shit that's going on and it's not a believing matter, it's just crazy

[haider]

You should be in 3rd/final year, now. What's your major? What your thesis? 

Tough love right here 

[Nirvana]

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[tbombz]

Academic suspension it is, Chumleigh. How do your parents keep up with all your disappointments?  

your old, you feel like your life experience means you intelligent, i get it.. it would behoove you to be humble, since you dont have any intelligent comments to make.. acting how you feel just makes you seem like a charlatan

[devilsmile]

yeah nirvana, human being learns science --> creates atomic bomb ---> kills people with it

science is bad   ?

I think there are loonatics in all aspects of social construct. Religion NOT leading the way, by the way... NO yo ufucking idiot, not sciiEEeence neither, but "people" themselves... lol!

[Growth NOOB]

what caused the big bang? where did all that matter and energy come from? what causes things to happen?


i can ask you.. "what causes lightening?".. and you can give me a mechanical explanation all the way back to the big bang.. millions maybe trillions of steps in a process that led to that singular lightening strike... but at the end of that chain the question still remains "what caused THAT?"    so the only correct answer to the question "what caused that to happen?" , whether the subject at hand is lightening, the wind, the rotation of the earth, the formation of a star, or the big bang ... is "we will never know" 

Science does not currently know.


However, as I explained before, it is absolutely useless to claim "god did it".  What does that accomplish?  What does it even mean?  

[Growth NOOB]

have you ever seen something happen that didnt have a cause ? 

(btw, if god exists, god exists. it doesnt matter if there are 5,000 different names for him, 20,000 different conceptions of what he truly is, and 1,000,000 different religions.  )

Yes, actually.  It happens all the time on the quantum level.  I suggest you watch Dr. Lawrence Krauss'  A Universe From Nothing.

However, your argument defeats itself because I suppose somehow your "god" didn't need a cause, right?

[dr.chimps]

your old, you feel like your life experience means you intelligent, i get it.. it would behoove you to be humble, since you dont have any intelligent comments to make.. acting how you feel just makes you seem like a charlatan

I am. I have achieved. You...? You just yap. And yap. You're going nowhere, fast. Such a shame.  

[Growth NOOB]

Yess wiggs I understood you... I was kind of just pointing to your post while explaining to Growth noob here.

growth noob you're the one resolting to insults here, tough guy  

and you allready assume I denye common sense and logic which is not the case at all

I have no reason to debate about this topic because I have debated this gazillion times with the likes of you and I don't have any need to prove my self, lol, lastly to you

debating with you would be like playing chess while both of us having our own rules to play with and it just doesn't work, so why bother.

But I give you some releif, I agree that science is allways 100% correct but science can't explain things that are truly bizarre and paranormal. Because there is a spiritual realm beyond science.

Why don't you actually address what I said?  I asked you very straight forward questions.  If you can defend your position, it wouldn't be difficult to provide an answer.

Where is the evidence for this "spiritual realm"?

I'm trying to get you to realize that you have no justification to believe what you do.

[tbombz]

Science does not currently know.


However, as I explained before, it is absolutely useless to claim "god did it".  What does that accomplish?  What does it even mean?  

no, science will never know. and if there even is an answer, the only possible answer is God.

what does it mean to say God exists? for one, it means life is not entirely meaningless.

[Growth NOOB]

no, science will never know. and if there even is an answer, the only possible answer is God.

what does it mean to say God exists? for one, it means life is not entirely meaningless.

How the fuck do you know science will never know? Honestly, what an arrogant and moronic thing to claim.

And please explain how the only possible answer is god.  And which god out of the thousands is it?