Mr O 2011 question

[mesmorph78]

If Phil heaths arms wasn't as big as they are or look to be in his frame
Would he have won the mr Olympia ?

[DK II]

Yes, Meso, your arms are superb and we believe you that you are natural.

[LWGA]

If Phil heaths arms wasn't as big as they are or look to be in his frame
Would he have won the mr Olympia ?

Hard to know for sure....My gut says yes.  He just looks better than all others out there at the moment.
Personally, I think it would help him if they were a tad smaller.  It would help to improve the "look"  of his width and chest size. 
You do have to consider the "wow" factor.  Love him or hate him, his arms get talked about.  If Tom Platz (yep, I'm telling my age) had normal legs, he would have been little more than a footnote in bodybuilding history. 

[SF1900]

Phil heath has that one crazy forearm looking muscle. 

[Dr Dutch]

I don't recall who was mr O in 2011....

[mesmorph78]

Hard to know for sure....My gut says yes.  He just looks better than all others out there at the moment.
Personally, I think it would help him if they were a tad smaller.  It would help to improve the "look"  of his width and chest size. 
You do have to consider the "wow" factor.  Love him or hate him, his arms get talked about.  If Tom Platz (yep, I'm telling my age) had normal legs, he would have been little more than a footnote in bodybuilding history. 

Good analysis ... I think he has good arm shape which against his frame gives that wow factor ..

[Papper]

If Phil heaths arms wasn't as big as they are or look to be in his frame
Would he have won the mr Olympia ?

Are you kidding? Not a chance in hell, that's what makes all of his his physique from the front.

[Chick]

If Phil heaths arms wasn't as big as they are or look to be in his frame
Would he have won the mr Olympia ?

So, your question is....if Phil didn't look the way he does, would he have won...??

[The_Punisher]

Phil presented the best overall physique at the 2011 Olympia. it was obvious at pre-judging and words got out he would win the show........I'm waiting to see what he brings at the O this year. he either has to duplicate last year or better, but I hope he doesn't sacrifice everything else just so he could come in bigger........I'm positive he won't be like Dexter Jackson. One and Done

[Wiggs]

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas

[mesmorph78]

So, your question is....if Phil didn't look the way he does, would he have won...??

nope
the reason i asked was ... I was watching a training vid with steve cuclo and jose raymond training arms

they measured raymonds arms and they started to ham it up about arms and steve said when was the last time a show was one on arms... and someone said Mr olympia 2011...

I can see why phil beat jay... the bi mishap.....
i think it should have been between vic and phil personally...

[DroppingPlates]

Arms are highly overrated. I see guys in the gym, performing +15 set routines for arms, and never, or almost never, training their back & legs, calves excluded.

[mesmorph78]

Arms are highly overrated. I see guys in the gym, performing +15 set routines for arms, and never, or almost never, training their back & legs, calves excluded.

agree to some extent....
its the showpiece bodypart i guess

[DroppingPlates]

agree to some extent....
its the showpiece bodypart i guess

True, but they look like shit with their hanging shoulders. I can see their shoulder blades through their shirts and tootsticks through their pants, LOL.
Serious, I prefer good proportions over conditioning.

[mesmorph78]

i agree with evrything being big.... and looking big from EVERY angle.... some guys are just happy with big arms...
no delts or back or legs