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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2012, 11:37:37 AM »

Being the pervert you are, perhaps you enjoy the TSA pat downs?   

no, i just see no other way

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2012, 11:52:49 AM »

You shoot a gun on an airplane and everyone will die from rapid decompression you fucking moron
wrong ::)  Now I know bullets flying around a plane at high altitude is a very bad idea but a bullet sized hole through the plane is not going to kill everyone instantly.  That's an absurd notion.  You need a bigger hole than that. Pilot would see the decompression and be able to come down well before it started killing people.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2012, 11:55:02 AM »
blacken, are you just trolling or do you really believe this crap you're saying?

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2012, 12:05:07 PM »
White House sides with TSA in Rand Paul standoff
By Keith Laing - 01/23/12 01:24 PM ET
 
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The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration in its standoff with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and his father, Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

The elder Paul called the TSA a "police state" Monday after Rand Paul was reportedly detained by TSA after he refused to take a pat-down from TSA officials at the Nashville International Airport.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday that he didn't have any reaction to Paul's "police state" comments.

But Carney sided with the TSA saying, "I think it is absolutely essential that we take necessary actions to ensure that air travel is safe."



Ron Paul, who is one of four remaining Republican candidates for president, disagreed Monday afternoon. Paul said after he confirmed the incident involving Rand Paul on his Twitter page that it showed why the TSA should be eliminated.

"The police state in this country is growing out of control," the elder Paul said in a statement released by his presidential campaign.

"One of the ultimate embodiments of this is the TSA that gropes and grabs our children, our seniors, and our loved ones and neighbors with disabilities," he continued. "The TSA does all of this while doing nothing to keep us safe. That is why my ‘Plan to Restore America,’ in additional to cutting $1 trillion dollars in federal spending in one year, eliminates the TSA."

TSA has defended its treatment of Rand Paul, saying that its employees in Nashville followed its normal procedure with the senator, who has often sharply criticized the agency's pat-downs before he refused one Monday morning.

"When an irregularity is found during the TSA screening process, it must be resolved prior to allowing a passenger to proceed to the secure area of the airport," the agency said Monday in a written statement. "Passengers who refuse to complete the screening process cannot be granted access to the secure area in order to ensure the safety of others traveling."

U.S. security officials denied that Rand Paul was held by the agency. Instead, they said the senator was escorted out of the security area after his refusal to accept a pat-down after his trip through one of the agency's X-ray machines caused issues.

Both Pauls have been vocal critics of the TSA, calling for the controversial agency to be disbanded.

TSA said in a statement that "the passenger," Rand Paul, "has since rebooked on another flight and was rescreened without incident."

—Amie Parnes contributed to this report.



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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2012, 12:08:53 PM »
blacken, are you just trolling or do you really believe this crap you're saying?

the scanners don't bother me

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2012, 12:11:03 PM »
the scanners don't bother me
So what doesn't bother YOU should be a measure of what the rest of America should be willing to take?  Wow, that's believing in freedom and liberty ::)

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2012, 12:14:06 PM »
the scanners don't bother me

Because you are a stupid cocksucking fag who likes getting fucked in the ass by the government and all their completely illegal activities.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2012, 12:14:25 PM »
So what doesn't bother YOU should be a measure of what the rest of America should be willing to take?  Wow, that's believing in freedom and liberty ::)

blackass is a "progressive", the idea of freedom never enters into his mind.  

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2012, 12:34:13 PM »
blackass is a "progressive", the idea of freedom never enters into his mind.  
you don't think my opinion matters anyway so I don't know why you're telling me.  I voted for Obama so "I don't get it" right... lol...

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2012, 12:36:05 PM »
you don't think my opinion matters anyway so I don't know why you're telling me.  I voted for Obama so "I don't get it" right... lol...

I was talking about what the average "GOP PRIMARY VOTER" wants and feels at this point. 


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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2012, 12:39:36 PM »
So what doesn't bother YOU should be a measure of what the rest of America should be willing to take?  Wow, that's believing in freedom and liberty ::)

why does it bother so much to walk though a scanner

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2012, 01:04:42 PM »
why does it bother so much to walk though a scanner

Because having your wife and child irradiated and viewed naked by fat, worthless, government scumbags is not something that most Americans want to deal with. 

I'm sure that little bitch of a press secretary jay carney likes it when a big burly TSA child molester grabs his crotch every time he flies
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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2012, 01:28:02 PM »
Because having your wife and child irradiated and viewed naked by fat, worthless, government scumbags is not something that most Americans want to deal with. 

I'm sure that little bitch of a press secretary jay carney likes it when a big burly TSA child molester grabs his crotch every time he flies



Blacken has no problems with TSA pedos.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2012, 01:31:59 PM »
just walk though the scanner :'(

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2012, 01:34:25 PM »

Rand Paul on TSA detainment: ‘I was barked at: ‘Do not leave the cubicle!”
By Matthew Boyle - The Daily Caller   3:24 PM 01/23/2012





Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul told The Daily Caller that being “detained” by the Transportation Security Administration at the Nashville airport Monday was a major ordeal that underscores flaws in TSA’s procedures that affect tens of millions of passengers every year.

“It was a big headache,” Paul said in a phone interview. “I missed my speech here. I was supposed to speak to the Right to Life March, probably the biggest audience I’ll get to speak to, and I missed it.”

The White House, through spokesman Jay Carney, defended the TSA’s actions during Monday’s press briefing by arguing that Paul wasn’t technically “detained.”

“Let’s be clear,” Carney said. “The passenger was not detained. He was escorted out of the area by local law-enforcement.”

But Sen. Paul told TheDC that he certainly felt like he was detained. “If you’re told you can’t leave, does that count as detention?” Paul asked.

“I tried to leave the cubicle to speak to one of the TSA people and I was barked at: ‘Do not leave the cubicle!’ So, that, to me sounds like I’m being asked not to leave the cubicle. It sounds a little bit like I’m being detained.”

The incident started after the scanner Paul walked through sounded its alarm. Current TSA rules would require Paul to undergo a mandatory pat-down before proceeding to his plane. But Paul told TheDC that the TSA agents caved in after a two-hour battle and allowed him to go through the scanner again without additional physical screening.

“For an hour and a half, they said ‘absolutely, I would have to [accept a pat-down],’” Paul said. “And, because I used my cell phone, they told me I would have to do a full body pat down because you’re not allowed to use your cell phone when you’re being detained.”

“It’s like, well, I can’t call my attorney? I can’t call my office to tell them I’m going to miss a speech to 200,000 people?”

“In the end, after two hours of this quarreling,” Sen. Paul explained, “they did let me walk through the screener [machine] and it didn’t go off. So what the TSA is not telling you is the screeners are being used as random devices as well. The [mechanical] screeners will go off randomly, and the [agent] screeners don’t know that it’s a random call but it has nothing to do with what you’ve done.”

Paul doesn’t think the Nashville TSA agents were singling him out because he has been critical of the agency.

“I don’t think so,” Paul said. “They’ve usually treated me pretty well in Nashville. But the problem is the rules that are coming out of Washington. We’ve been 10 years and we have no frequent flier program, we have no ability for people to go back through the screener, [and] one-size-fits-all, everybody-is-a-potential-terrorist rules waste a lot of time on people who are not terrorists.

“So, resources, I think, could be better devoted to looking at who’s flying and where they’ve been flying and knowing more about the passenger list rather than spending all this time doing these random screenings of elderly people, young people and frequent fliers.”

Paul has dueled with TSA administrator John Pistole during Senate hearings about why travelers are required to consent to mandatory full body pat downs if scanners beep when they walk through. Paul argues that passengers should be allowed to choose to go through the scanners again rather than being forced to undergo a physical pat-down.

“The TSA has got a lot of problems,” Paul told TheDC. “There are a lot of people who are insulted and their dignity is compromised by what the TSA does to them. Really all I’m asking for is when you go through the screener [machine], you ought to be allowed to choose to get a body pat-down or choose to go back through the screener.”

TSA procedures, he said, ultimately waste time and resources. “So, if you try to comply, if you take your shoes off, you take your glasses off, you take your wallet out, you take everything out of your pockets and try to comply, it still goes off randomly.”

“But then you’re made to think that, ‘Oh, there’s a problem. We have to look at this,’” Paul said. “But, they’re wasting time, I think, by doing this. Instead of targeting people who meet a risk profile for terrorism, what they’re doing is they’re just doing these random things. But, I think it’s a waste of time and it’s insulting to put people through a body pat down when they have not shown any risk.”

“I think every American should be allowed to go back through the screener if they don’t choose to have a pat-down,” Paul insisted.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/rand-paul-on-tsa-detainment-i-was-barked-at-do-not-leave-the-cubicle/#ixzz1kJs8EbVY

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2012, 02:27:59 PM »
The TSA states that Rand Paul was "not detained at any point". He was simply "denied access to the secure gate area" and cordoned off into a holding area. I'm not entirely sure when not being allowed to leave a holding area is NOT detention, but I haven't received the latest edition of the Newspeak dictionary yet.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2012, 02:29:48 PM »
I love how that piece of garbage refers to Sen Paul, "The passenger" 


What the hell ever. 

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2012, 02:30:44 PM »
LOL 3333, I love the way Senator Rand Paul puts things in that article:

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I tried to leave the cubicle to speak to one of the TSA people and I was barked at: ‘Do not leave the cubicle!’ So, that, to me sounds like I’m being asked not to leave the cubicle. It sounds a little bit like I’m being detained.

Hmmm, ya think?  ;D

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2012, 02:38:39 PM »
“Let’s be clear,” Carney said. “The passenger was not detained. He was escorted out of the area by local law-enforcement.”


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Obama uses that ridiculous phrase all the time as well.  "Lemmme Be Clear", usually what follows is a bunch of lies. 

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2012, 02:49:06 PM »
The TSA states that Rand Paul was "not detained at any point". He was simply "denied access to the secure gate area" and cordoned off into a holding area. I'm not entirely sure when not being allowed to leave a holding area is NOT detention, but I haven't received the latest edition of the Newspeak dictionary yet.

If you are being told not to leave, you are fucking detained.

If you ask if you are free to go and they say no... You are detained.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2012, 02:52:23 PM »

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2012, 04:10:11 PM »
I love how that piece of garbage refers to Sen Paul, "The passenger" 


What the hell ever. 
yes, absolutely... That sack of shit needs to refer to him as Senator Rand Paul...

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2012, 04:18:35 PM »

Not happy with some of the things he's supporting in this video.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2012, 04:20:27 PM »
yes, absolutely... That sack of shit needs to refer to him as Senator Rand Paul...

Agreed... He's a fucking elected official.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2012, 04:50:48 PM »
um.... why cant we just do what Israel does?

How many plane hijackings and plane bombings do they have?