Author Topic: Suspect with Crowbar Shot Outside Carls Jr Monterey Park (Read 12624 times)

delta9mda · « **Reply #50 on:** January 24, 2012, 06:47:55 PM »

lets see the experts here hit a leg under high stress situation. wont happen.

Dr.J · « **Reply #51 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:12:20 PM »

Looks good to me....clean shot. I feel terrible.for.the.police officers. It's hoing to be mentality hard for them.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #52 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:20:07 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on January 24, 2012, 03:12:23 PM

You shoot until he's no longer a threat

I read about a cop who came across some dude in the mall parking lot just sitting their idling his truck , the cop pulled up asked if everything was okay , dude opened fired on the cop , the cop shot him SEVENTEEN times and that fucker was still trying to shoot the cop !!

very hard to kill with one shot. I watched this video multiple times and it's a clean kill , dude raised the weapon up and cocked back , I would have shot him too.

I'm the first guy to bash cops when necessary, but this post^ is spot on. You get hit in the head with a crowbar, you are fucked if not dead. When a cop shoots, he shoots to kill. Another thing is they have no idea if the guy with a crowbar had a partner in crime. Cops needed to secure the place. The fact that there's a couple of young people in a car pointing something in there direction(camera)makes me believe that the cops had to act so quick that the area wasn't exactly secure.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #53 on:** January 24, 2012, 08:31:43 PM »

Quote from: delta9mda on January 24, 2012, 06:47:55 PM

lets see the experts here hit a leg under high stress situation. wont happen.

The only cops who would take a leg shot would be a sniper in a totally different situation. The cop here who took the first shot may have saved his partner from having a pipe to the head. You know we lived in a fucked up world where some kids in a car and video tape a guy getting shot the fuck up at basically close blank range and the kids start laughing. $:-\$

hangclean · « **Reply #54 on:** January 24, 2012, 09:54:42 PM »

Quote from: Nails on January 24, 2012, 04:38:23 PM

so why are they trained in hand to hand combat? why do they have hand cuffs? billy clubs? stun guns? pepper spray? k-9 german shepard .

why go for the gun first?

See suspect,
Shot suspect,
Hand cuff him
Let him die
Officers of the Peace

he was no more than 5 feet away weilding a crowbar. sorry, a crowbar can kill someone in one shot. the cop did the right thing.

Your Average GymRat · « **Reply #55 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:10:29 PM »

Americans are soft as puppy shit. The kid had it coming. Toss that corpse in the pile and move on.

DBX · « **Reply #56 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:25:23 PM »

Quote from: Your Average GymRat on January 24, 2012, 10:10:29 PM

Americans are soft as puppy shit. The kid had it coming. Toss that corpse in the pile and move on.

how is Pakistan ?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #57 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:41:53 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on January 24, 2012, 03:11:24 PM

You could argue its a bit excessive at first. BUT he did Raise the weapon (at least begin to) againt the officer and thats a NO NO and even I know that. But that would warrent One shot at least.. ...but 11?

Why not aim for the legs as you mentioned, or at least wait a split second before firing 10 more shots.

I wish they would shoot fuckers this easy in Sweden. Not the 11 shots but one non leathal.

Cops are trained to aim for the center mass.

That's what you do when you shoot someone.

I don't recommend taking a crowbar to the head... They can only bash your skull in.

Did it take 8 bullets? Obviously not, but in this instance, the cop is not in the wrong.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #58 on:** January 24, 2012, 10:53:25 PM »

He wanted to die..period. Suicide by Cop. Welcome to Monterey Park/E. LA.

bigmc · « **Reply #59 on:** January 25, 2012, 08:14:21 AM »

fuck him

everyone know how to tell the cops how to do their job

be dif if that clown was going to brain one of you then see how your internet tactics would work

wes · « **Reply #60 on:** January 25, 2012, 08:19:23 AM »

After thinking about this thread and reading posts from you guys,I have to agree that he definately had to be stopped.

I sure as hell wouldn`t want a crowbar smashed into my mug!

Bad Boy Dazza · « **Reply #61 on:** January 25, 2012, 08:36:18 AM »

Quote from: bigmc on January 25, 2012, 08:14:21 AM

fuck him

everyone know how to tell the cops how to do their job

be dif if that clown was going to brain one of you then see how your internet tactics would work

yup

makaveli25 · « **Reply #62 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:00:19 AM »

They could of used a non lethal option first. They had the guy outnumbered. He was prob mentally ill. Sick the dog on him or nail him with a taser. I hate cops so this kind of shit bothers me.

pluck · « **Reply #63 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:06:16 AM »

A. Any fuckhead with a gun pointed at them, not immediately complying with orders is a Darwinism award winner.
B. Cops are trigger happy. In a typical cop career it's rare for them to draw their gun, much less shoot it. Most cops (and I know a few) are not proficient with their weapons.

oliveiraugo · « **Reply #64 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:14:08 AM »

sorry nothing wrong.

you are cop, the guy is a criminal threating your life.

If he didnt shoot his friend could be death right now. You americans cry for everything, lol. CRIMINAL is a CRIMINAL, the cops gave him the chance to throw that shit out.

viking1 · « **Reply #65 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:30:09 AM »

epic fucking law enforcement bro science here

240 is Back · « **Reply #66 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:32:19 AM »

shoot was fine.

then put the fcking gun away. youre not a badass. you don't need it in your head for 2-3 mintues after shooting. at that point, a guy can sneeze and he might draw up. put the gun away after you shoot, champ.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #67 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:52:59 AM »

Anyone stupid enough to rush a cop with a crowbar surrounded by his cop buddies is too stupid to live.

+1 for mankind.

Chick · « **Reply #68 on:** January 25, 2012, 11:36:54 AM »

a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...

You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...

wes · « **Reply #69 on:** January 25, 2012, 11:40:32 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 25, 2012, 11:36:54 AM

a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...

You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...

Good points Bob...........I never thought of that.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #70 on:** January 25, 2012, 01:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 25, 2012, 11:36:54 AM

a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...

You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...

Good post. And the fact that if you miss the leg, do you really know whats standing 50 yards behind him. Probably lots of on lookers in that road way.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #71 on:** January 25, 2012, 04:48:32 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 25, 2012, 11:36:54 AM

a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...

You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...

Bicep for most bodybuilders.

We'll never know what really went on... maybe the dude just finished Halflife2 and wanted some burgers?

OTHstrong · « **Reply #72 on:** January 25, 2012, 05:04:27 PM »

Personally, I would have tried to shoot him in the leg, but he did have a crow bar and was coming at him and like everyone stated the cop had adrenaline coming in hard after the first shot so he wants to make sure the guy is down, stupid cop?... yes,... should he get in trouble?.... I think everything was by the books, so no. A soldier would have stopped after shooting him once cause they have more appropriate training and they can control their adrenaline a bit better

mitchyboy · « **Reply #73 on:** January 25, 2012, 07:32:04 PM »

No you wouldnt onetime hard dont fool yourself.

You know how you dont get shot 8 times by the cops? I do.

kh300 · « **Reply #74 on:** January 25, 2012, 07:47:54 PM »

For those commenting on the cops actions after the shooting.. Keep in mind they're without a doubt going threw fight or flight reactions. They were probably unaware of what they were doing due to the massive amounts of adrenaline,excitement, and nervousness. You have no idea how many thoughts come rushing into your head after a shooting, let alone what your body's going threw. ''Did I make the right decision, what are the consequences going to be, am I going to be sued,I just ended a life, fuck now I gotta do paperwork, fuck now I gotta do overtime.''
''honey I wont be home tonight, is she gonna be fucking some other dude? FUCK