Stephen Hawkins: Theists Are Cowards Who Are Afraid Of The Dark.

[Parker]

BAHAHAHA!!!
I remember those things, dead nuts on Parker.

And when this day happens, a tear will come to his eye, and he says "Fuck You God" (in a stuttering voice), and God (whereever, whoever) says, "You've been fucked your whole life."

[Radical Plato]

And when this day happens, a tear will come to his eye, and he says "Fuck You God" (in a stuttering voice), and God (whereever, whoever) says, "You've been fucked your whole life."

Wrong! Stephen is the only man in history to stand up to this so called GOD, the man unable to stand in life has cast his shadow across the multiverse and even outdone GOD himself, that magnificent retarded bastard! To think it took a cripple to expose the myth and lies of thousands of generations of Idiots.  Can you imagine such Power, every intellect in the world has known that the majority of people are idiots and believe anything, and the idiot majority rule by numbers. For thousands of years people have been superstitious because knowledge was yet to be unveiled, and know that the truth is here, the cracking of the denial of thousands of years of lies embedded in the idiot majorities heads is like the sound of the Big Bang Itself, it can be heard in every part of the Universe. A New World is coming where the enlightened rule and the idiots are kept quiet.  JMO  

A New World is coming where the enlightened rule and the idiots are kept quiet

[Parker]

Wrong! Stephen is the only man in history to stand up to this so called GOD, the man unable to stand in life has cast his shadow across the multiverse and even outdone GOD himself, that magnificent retarded bastard! To think it took a cripple to expose the myth and lies of thousands of generations of Idiots.  Can you imagine such Power, every intellect in the world has known that the majority of people are idiots and believe anything, and the idiot majority rule by numbers. For thousands of years people have been superstitious because knowledge was yet to be unveiled, and know that the truth is here, the cracking of the denial of thousands of years of lies embedded in the idiot majorities heads is like the sound of the Big Bang Itself, it can be heard in every part of the Universe. A New World is coming where the enlightened rule and the idiots are kept quiet.  JMO  

A New World is coming where the enlightened rule and the idiots are kept quiet

unfortunately, you're wrong. He can't even walk, let alone stand...
Poor genetics...he won't recover.

[Radical Plato]

Wrong! Stephen is the only man in history to stand up to this so called GOD, the man unable to stand in life has cast his shadow across the multiverse and even outdone GOD himself, that magnificent retarded bastard! To think it took a cripple to expose the myth and lies of thousands of generations of Idiots.  Can you imagine such Power, every intellect in the world has known that the majority of people are idiots and believe anything, and the idiot majority rule by numbers. For thousands of years people have been superstitious because knowledge was yet to be unveiled, and know that the truth is here, the cracking of the denial of thousands of years of lies embedded in the idiot majorities heads is like the sound of the Big Bang Itself, it can be heard in every part of the Universe. A New World is coming where the enlightened rule and the idiots are kept quiet.  JMO  

A New World is coming where the enlightened rule and the idiots are kept quiet

unfortunately, you're wrong. He can't even walk, let alone stand...
Poor genetics...he won't recover.

Unfortunately, Getbig is full of the retarded majority, the retarded majority like to pick a few words out of a 300 word paragraph and make outlandish statements that reveal they didn't even read the post.  I cant wait to the day if you test with a retard IQ you are even banned from posting on even the crudest forums such as GETBIG, it's bad enough the church has produced thousands of years of idiots, now a broken western society just produces these consumerist idiots who can hardly read, let alone retort with an educated reply. Sad, So Sad, because I know every idiot will be unable to completely read this post, but will post off topic and irrelevant responses anyway. God bless the Idiots, for they shall inherit the dirt!

[Shockwave]

Youre acting like the cripple in the wheelchair is the 1st scientist to claim god doesnt exist, he's just another scientist in a long line that have said the same thing.
The only difference is the poor bastard cries everytime he does it because for all his intellect, all his gifts, he cannot for even 1 second enjoy ANYTHING any other moron on the earth good.
So who is pwnd here?
Clearly the poor bastard in the wheelchair who has to spend his whole life in his own head because he cant get out and live life, let alone fuck a woman.
That poor bastard must have really done something fucked up in a past life.
Either that, or god knew what Hawking was going to do and say in life, so he just went ahead and got the 1st and last laugh in. 

[The Showstoppa]

This guy gets so much publicity simply because of how he looks and being in a wheel chair.  There are far brighter scientists in the world.  He best watch it or his babysitter will leave him out in the sun again.....

[Parker]

Unfortunately, Getbig is full of the retarded majority, the retarded majority like to pick a few words out of a 300 word paragraph and make outlandish statements that reveal they didn't even read the post.  I cant wait to the day if you test with a retard IQ you are even banned from posting on even the crudest forums such as GETBIG, it's bad enough the church has produced thousands of years of idiots, now a broken western society just produces these consumerist idiots who can hardly read, let alone retort with an educated reply. Sad, So Sad, because I know every idiot will be unable to completely read this post, but will post off topic and irrelevant responses anyway. God bless the Idiots, for they shall inherit the dirt!

Its called sarcasm and a quick wit...
Furthermore, how can one "stand up to God" if he doesn't exist? You mean to stand up to the concept of God...
Although, his "god" is science, and he is a disciple. I need not elucidate any further. Most of us on here already have the conceptual tools necessary for critiquing one another's posts, thoughts, and or points.
Sarcasm, quick wit. Learn it. Or God will smite you.

[tbombz]

The neutrino experiment has not changed anything yet. It needs to be reproduced and verified before any conclusions can be drawn. Besides it's quite ironic that the results apparently disproves the theory of relativity but yet it uses that exact theory to determine the distance between start and finish of the experiment(via gps satellites).

You're only slightly correct about the atom part(atom is a greek word blabla) but the other two statements about disease and evolution you better find a damn good source for. How could they possibly have known about bacteria without a microscope?

I bet all kinds of stuff have been speculated about at one point in history but there's a dramatic difference between speculation, proof and working theories. Vague speculation just doesn't get the job done.

There might always be a question mark at the 'end'(whatever that might be) of science but you can absolutely not predict where that will be. Personally I'd be shocked if a working theory of the origin of the universe has not been worked out by the end of this century.

not that atom is a greek word, but atomic theory- that everything is made of 'atoms', geometrically but not physically divisible units of stuff.  this goes back to pre-socratic era and was furthered by leibnez to the point of basically predicting quantum physics. start with anaxagoras and go from there.

evolution - anaximander http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/ancient.html

disease - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease


yes there will always be a question mark. no, no one can tell where it will be at. it may keep getting pushed farther and farther down the round, but there it will always be.

you would not be shocked if such a theory came about, you would be misinformed.

you really need to study some basic philosophy

[johnnynoname]

btw, I for one am refreshed that this thread didnt turn into one of those long, dick measuring contests for psuedo intellectuals who never did anything in real life


in closing, I want to say that this thread so didn't end up the way I thought it would

[tbombz]

 "Tdongz", let me summarize the issue for your limited mind to understand. There are two hypothesis here:

  1. There is a first cause.

  2. There was never a first cause.

  Either one of these possibilities do not require a God.

  1. The first cause, by definition, does not require any previous cause. This is conditione sine qua non for it to be the first cause in the first place. The first cause, if there is one, somehow sprang about from itself. It could be a super-magical being called God, but this does not eliminate the fact that the first cause sprang about by itself. In fact, there being a super-magical being posessed of infinite powers and capabilities in the beggining creates more problems than you set yourself to resolve in the first place. The first cause should be a very simple axiom, like the numbers "0" and "1", from which all mathematics and computer science derive. But whatever it was, the first cause creates with itself the very process of causality "Before" first cause = no causality required. Speaking of an "uncaused cause" is non-sequitur. It is a play at semantics, a tautology.

  2. In this case, an infinite loop like infinite sets in mathematics. This makes God impossible because the one requirement for God being God is that He is the first cause. If there is no first cause = no God. You cannot argue either that there was no first cause in time, but de facto God as the first God because God "timelessly" created the Universe, meaning an infinite regressing loops of causes but with God as the "first" cause. The problem here is that we are arguing in absolute, axiomatic terms and not chronological terms. An infinite regressing chain of causes makes it impossible for there to be a God with the most important attribute for God being God of being the creator of the Universe. There could be immensely powerful beings that far surpass the traditional religious ideas of God, but these beings still wouldn't be God if they weren't the first cause.

  Case closed.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

thats a solid post except for a few things.

 first, you can not assert what a first cause should be. it may be simple or it may be complex.

 second, you can not asssert that god is complex. god could be simple or complex. you dont know which. in fact, i think a god would be neither.. something totally incomprehensible,that no words could ever describe gods qualities.

third, having god as the first cause does not create "more problems". an uncaused cause is just as problematic as an uncaused god.

[The Ugly]

Hawking.

Hawking.

[tbombz]

btw, I for one am refreshed that this thread didnt turn into one of those long, dick measuring contests for psuedo intellectuals who never did anything in real life


in closing, I want to say that this thread so didn't end up the way I thought it would

no ones stopping you from putting your two cents in, and nobodies forcing you to read either. are you feeling envious of people who like to engage in discussions about interesting concepts or are you mad because we arent paying attention to your constant attempts at humor? im here to help anytime you need somebody to listen, not being an asshole, being serious. let me know if you need somebody to talk to. ill listen. but i will warn you, im not going to pretend your attempts at humor are funny if they arent (as is usually the case)

[johnnynoname]

no ones stopping you from putting your two cents in, and nobodies forcing you to read either. are you feeling envious of people who like to engage in discussions about interesting concepts or are you mad because we arent paying attention to your constant attempts at humor? im here to help anytime you need somebody to listen, not being an asshole, being serious. let me know if you need somebody to talk to. ill listen. but i will warn you, im not going to pretend your attempts at humor are funny if they arent (as is usually the case)

shut up faggot

[tbombz]

im here if you need me johnny bo bonny 

[suckmymuscle]

thats a solid post except for a few things.

 first, you can not assert what a first cause should be. it may be simple or it may be complex.

 second, you can not asssert that god is complex. god could be simple or complex. you dont know which. in fact, i think a god would be neither.. something totally incomprehensible,that no words could ever describe gods qualities.

third, having god as the first cause does not create "more problems". an uncaused cause is just as problematic as an uncaused god.

  It's like talking to a child..."the uncaused cause"...here we go again...he just repeats the same shit that has been just addressed again and again...

 

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[tbombz]

first cause = uncaused cause.. by definition..

[haider]

Speaking of humility: didnt tbomz pull ouy of his ass that matter is 'infinitely divisible' and that 'there is no such thing as a massless particle'? 

Like others have said u need to gain some life experiences and knowledge before you claim to k.ow everything. I almost puked when i saw you quote socrates. Dont unnecessarily put yourself in a situation where you proclaim what is beyond your knowledge, it only hardens your pre-existing beliefs and blocks you even more from learning new things.

Have a good night.

[suckmymuscle]

first cause = uncaused cause.. by definition..

  It is non-sequitur. A tautology. A redundancy. Because the first cause needs be uncaused for there to be a first cause in the first place, and if you postulate God as the cause of the "first" cause, then you are making God the first cause and you are making the "first" cause the second one. Holy shit, why can't you understand this?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[tbombz]

Speaking of humility: didnt tbomz pull ouy of his ass that matter is 'infinitely divisible' and that 'there is no such thing as a massless particle'? 

Like others have said u need to gain some life experiences and knowledge before you claim to k.ow everything. I almost puked when i saw you quote socrates. Dont unnecessarily put yourself in a situation where you proclaim what is beyond your knowledge, it only hardens your pre-existing beliefs and blocks you even more from learning new things.

Have a good night.

matter is infinitely divisible and there isnt such a thing as a massless particle.

[tbombz]

 It is non-sequitur. A tautology. A redundancy. Because the first cause needs be uncaused for there to be a first cause in the first place, and if you postulate God as the cause of the "first" cause, then you are making God the first cause and you are making the "first" cause the second one. Holy shit, why can't you understand this?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

yes, exactly, the first cause is necessarily an uncaused cause. lol   

[haider]

matter is infinitely divisible and there isnt such a thing as a massless particle.

There is such a thing as a brickwall, i hope you believe.

[tbombz]

There is such a thing as a brickwall, i hope you believe.

cut the brick wall in half. cut it in half again. keep going. tell me when you can no longer cut those halfs in half.

[haider]

cut the brick wall in half. cut it in half again. keep going. tell me when you can no longer cut those halfs in half.

Haha. You dont know the very basics of particle physics and u get in this drawn out discussions about quantum mechanics and uncaused causes. Have you no shame?

[tbombz]

Haha. You dont know the very basics of particle physics and u get in this drawn out discussions about quantum mechanics and uncaused causes. Have you no shame?

go try cutting that brick wall in half. come back when your done cutting the halfs in half.

[haider]

go try cutting that brick wall in half. come back when your done cutting the halfs in half.

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