this is a hardcore cycle i only need experienced vets opinions on this.

[alphaanimal]

my current cycle is as follows
testE 250ed
tren ace 100 ed
eq 200 ed
deca 250 ed
anadrol 100 ed
gh 7.5 in am then again pm. both subq

using slin also but im type one diabetic.
my question is i am wanting to incorperate igflr3 and igf des1,3, and peg mgf with this, im looking for timing and dosing advice with these. also am i taking the gh at a good time splitting it up like that? im curious of how i should time all these shots not the aas,but the gh and others. i am looking to put on a massive amount of size with this so i can compete at a high level, thanks for any input. also if theres anything else i can do to better this let me know thanks.

[SmoofCat]

my current cycle is as follows
testE 250ed
tren ace 100 ed
eq 200 ed
deca 250 ed
anadrol 100 ed
gh 7.5 in am then again pm. both subq

using slin also but im type one diabetic.
my question is i am wanting to incorperate igflr3 and igf des1,3, and peg mgf with this, im looking for timing and dosing advice with these. also am i taking the gh at a good time splitting it up like that? im curious of how i should time all these shots not the aas,but the gh and others. i am looking to put on a massive amount of size with this so i can compete at a high level, thanks for any input. also if theres anything else i can do to better this let me know thanks.

you are on like fucking 6 grams of gear a week if not more than that... what in god's name do you look like ?

advice:

1. stop shooting the gh sub q. shoot it Im in the delts.

2. cut the test down and cut the deca OUT.

3. with a cycle this insane, why is your tren ace so low? up the tren to 200 mg ED at least, if not 250.

[alphaanimal]

can i take that much tren if im planning on staying on for at least 8 months? the reason for deca was because i had a minor tear in my hamstring 2 months ago. why are you opposed to deca by the way?

[SmoofCat]

can i take that much tren if im planning on staying on for at least 8 months? the reason for deca was because i had a minor tear in my hamstring 2 months ago. why are you opposed to deca by the way?

because deca is aesthetically the worst of the steroids, and by a long shot. it does horrible things to the physique. it also is the only steroid that actually requires you to be on more testosterone than it mg for mg, or else your cock won't work. this all adds up to a bloofy physique.

yes you can take that much tren! i am on roughly a gram of tren right now and will stay on that for a couple years!

just trust me on dropping the deca and upping the tren ace while keeping the EQ where it is. It is entirely up to you on whether or not to lower the test. You are after all on a lot of GH, so you can have the test high if you want! But if you keep the test in, drop the anadrol. If you drop the test, keep the anadrol in.

This is all in the bible. Right now your cycle has the framework to be AMAZING. But you absolutely need to make some adjustments now.

[aesthetics]

6.3 grams a week, how do you feel on that?

are you running any ancillaries like blood pressure meds, pain killer, etc...

[diamondcut]

im not here to offer my opinion as i havent gone that insane but please let us know how things work out for you

good luck and have fun

[alphaanimal]

load up on garlic all throughout the day for bp i have some bp meds on hand and havnt needed painkillers. btw does anyone have any advice on the igf pegmgf and hgh use. thanks

[ChevChelios]

Up the ace,lower test,drop deca,jump to 20 iu gh,forget about igflr3 and stuff.Report back with a picture,your cycle could have lot's of potential is products are legit.

[FAST LANE]

you are on like fucking 6 grams of gear a week if not more than that... what in god's name do you look like ?

advice:

1. stop shooting the gh sub q. shoot it Im in the delts.

2. cut the test down and cut the deca OUT.

3. with a cycle this insane, why is your tren ace so low? up the tren to 200 mg ED at least, if not 250.

LOL

[FAST LANE]

How long are you gonna run the anadrol for??

[alphaanimal]

planned on running drol as long as i can without having health issues. also if i do the gh into the delts do i split them up and do them both in the morning and then do them both again in the evening?

[alphaanimal]

considering lowering the deca to 1 gram a week and increasing tren to 200 ed thoughts on this.

[aesthetics]

considering lowering the deca to 1 gram a week and increasing tren to 200 ed thoughts on this.

yes!

[aesthetics]

your cycle is pretty much a shotgun approach to anabolism but it definitely will get the job done. there's really not much else you can do to increase your overall size except upping the HGH. maybe you can tweak the cycle and drop or add certain things to get a specific effect but, you know when you hit 6.3grams a week not really going to be much better when you up the dosage on the steroids.

those igf-1 peptides are the definition of snakeoil, absolute garbage. don't buy that shit, especially if you are on insulin already as that's all they're good for anyways, their insulin like effects.

[Swlabr]

Stats?

[lyquid]

Personally I think deca is amazing. Gh15 has even said he's never heard of deca Dick till he came here. I get bloated and bloofy on test and deca too like everyone else. Everuyone runs test with deca. When u run deca without test its amazing period but no one wants to try it. It makes u look super round in the muscles and a lot leaner than test. Deca converts to estrogen half that of test, so no idea why everyone always says deca is so bad for bloat. Try deca without test ull look full in the right places and lean. And ur Dick will work amazing. Funny thing is iu went and added abit of test few weeks ago. Guess what happened. Softest boners ever .

So bare this in mind.

[SmoofCat]

Personally I think deca is amazing. Gh15 has even said he's never heard of deca Dick till he came here. I get bloated and bloofy on test and deca too like everyone else. Everuyone runs test with deca. When u run deca without test its amazing period but no one wants to try it. It makes u look super round in the muscles and a lot leaner than test. Deca converts to estrogen half that of test, so no idea why everyone always says deca is so bad for bloat. Try deca without test ull look full in the right places and lean. And ur Dick will work amazing. Funny thing is iu went and added abit of test few weeks ago. Guess what happened. Softest boners ever .

So bare this in mind.

agreed that deca alone gives you a good aesthetic look. actually amazing.

however i personally can not run deca without test. it is the one steroid that actually does not let me get hard. i need the test to get an erection.

i can run up to a gram of tren per week with no test and have no libido issues at all. i am shooting blanks, but i can fuck my girl 5 times in a night on tren with no test.

on deca alone i can't even get it up.

no joke.

[alphaanimal]

Stats?

ill weigh myself tomorrow im 6 foot bare minimum low 240s right now bodyfat percentage is low 10 at the max but im assuming its a little less. i turned 25 this month. ill get a camera this week and post pics. i want to keep progress pics through this bulking phase anyway so ill post them throughout if anyone is interested.

[Morsprincipium]

ONLY use IGFLR3, it has more localized effects compared to des...this is what you want.

If you have IGF-1 circulating through your system it ends up going into the places with the most receptors...your intestines.

Say hello to a turtle shell belly once those cells mature.

IGFLR3 immediately post-workout....use it on the muscle group you just worked.  Inject straight into it for localized effects.  I've been using it for years, only peptide I'll use besides GHRP-6.

Alot of guys don't like deca...I use 750mg/week of it.  Love it.  Run it along with 1200mg of tren too.
Prolactin effects aren't too bad just throw in some cabergoline and you'll be spot on. I'd run some more test personally though.


Cycle looks fine to me....pretty hefty but if you can handle the sides go for it.

[alphaanimal]

but if i site injected des every ten minutes for say an hour post workout into the muscle trained wouldnt i avoid the gut growth i would get from lr3, just asking also whats the deal with the gh shots into the delts. is there a purpose behind it? would my delts actually grow more from doing this?

[Morsprincipium]

but if i site injected des every ten minutes for say an hour post workout into the muscle trained wouldnt i avoid the gut growth i would get from lr3, just asking also whats the deal with the gh shots into the delts. is there a purpose behind it? would my delts actually grow more from doing this?

I wouldn't, it's your body man.  Try it out and if you see intestinal growth stop using it.

It gets absorbed faster than sub-q, I would inject IM or IV if you're a crazy fucker

[alphaanimal]

ok im sorry but im kind of confused i thought des was in and out and igflr3 stayed in system for 24 hours, which way stays away from the gut and causes more site injecting growth?

[Morsprincipium]

Stays in the system longer, yes.  But the effects are more localized as opposed to des which will circulate throughout your body.

I would just stay away from it...only reason I've implimented it is because I'm hitting plateau even with large amounts of HGH and insulin.

The most growth will come from the other stuff you're using...this is just the fine-tuner if you will.

[Brocty]

Jeeeeezaaas that's a shit fuk pile of gear in you bloody system mate!

have fun with that

[Benoitlapierre]

way too much deca ,,, 1gr is enough n add prami

deca + tren is a no no , it either deca or tren ,, mix both u could hav lactating nipples lol

 rest of cycle is fine will add masteron + aromasin + prami

 maybe less anadrol when stomach goes weak or stop it if too harsh