Bible Index - Primobolana

[deceiver]

lol... lot of hate.....
i do not know it all...never said i do
but i know a lot more then you 2 idiots....
asking about what bodybuilders took 30 years ago.... knowing that they had all available to them that is available to today's bodybuilders.....  
all except hgh in megadoses and slin... and the bullshit peptides....
 
use you fucking brains....

Yeh sure and Poland is 2nd world country and we have bunk gear in our pharmacies...

 

You prolly don't even know that we have more regulations regarding drugs and prescription than USA becouse:

 - we are part of European Union
 - we have socialistic government

When you said that Poland got bunk gear that second I knew you don't know SHIT about drugs. You're just random kid from internet, who read about all of this on the internet, mixed it up and spreads it. Anyone with half brains can tell, you're not fooling anyone. It's really pathetic than you're trying to look as knowleadgable as guy like MAX REP...

Now get the fuck out.

[wes]

No matter what anyone says,NOBODY knows what Arnold took,except Arnold.

[StanZoLOL]

No matter what anyone says,NOBODY knows what Arnold took,except Arnold.

Yup, just interesting to try and piece it together. Not that it matters since most don't have his genetic response either.

[wes]

Yup, just interesting to try and piece it together. Not that it matters since most don't have his genetic response either.

I hear ya` bud,it just gets redundant after being on these boards for so many years.

Kind of like the who`s better,Yates or Coleman crap! 

[deceiver]

I hear ya` bud,it just gets redundant after being on these boards for so many years.

Kind of like the who`s better,Yates or Coleman crap!  

It's not about him, it's about drugs of their era. They had that unique look which is far more appealing than what we see now. They were full, ripped and not bloated at all at any point.

That level of bloat is only achievable for me on 50mg prop eod OR 100mg prop + 25mg ATD ed. So that's crazy low dose of test or low dose of test + mild AI.

I don't think you can use more than that and still have your face look normal.

[wes]

It's not about him, it's about drugs of their era. They had that unique look which is far more appealing than what we see now. They were full, ripped and not bloated at all at any point.

That level of bloat is only achievable for me on 50mg prop eod OR 100mg prop + 25mg ATD ed. So that's crazy low dose of test or low dose of test + mild AI.

I don't think you can use more than that and still have your face look normal.

Very true,but don`t forget how long and hard they trained combined with whatever they used.

Training,sadly enough,takes a BIG backseat these days and drugs are relied upon by most instead.

Also,diet plays a huge role in how you look........eating ice cream,pizza,and sushi,just ain`t gonna` cut it as far as being ripped with striations is concerned.

Edit:

I`m sure you know this,but I`m just trying to make a point. 

[StanZoLOL]

It's not about him, it's about drugs of their era. They had that unique look which is far more appealing than what we see now. They were full, ripped and not bloated at all at any point.

That level of bloat is only achievable for me on 50mg prop eod OR 100mg prop + 25mg ATD ed. So that's crazy low dose of test or low dose of test + mild AI.

I don't think you can use more than that and still have your face look normal.

Did you try adding Mast or Prov for the bloat?

[deceiver]

Did you try adding Mast or Prov for the bloat?

Prov does nothing to me, ATD is way more potent. Masteron is expensive compared to ATD and has its own side effects like acne, just like proviron by the way.

Wes my diet is 100% clean, low sodium. My brain sucks without carbs so I can't limit them. Don't take me wrong, I DO manage my bloat. But anything more than 100mg of prop will bloat me at this dose of ATD.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Yeh sure and Poland is 2nd world country and we have bunk gear in our pharmacies...

 

You prolly don't even know that we have more regulations regarding drugs and prescription than USA becouse:

 - we are part of European Union
 - we have socialistic government

When you said that Poland got bunk gear that second I knew you don't know SHIT about drugs. You're just random kid from internet, who read about all of this on the internet, mixed it up and spreads it. Anyone with half brains can tell, you're not fooling anyone. It's really pathetic than you're trying to look as knowleadgable as guy like MAX REP...

Now get the fuck out.

first Poland IS a shithole....
why are 50% of polish people working in the Netherlands and Germany etc etc ? for half of the salary that Dutch and Germans earn??? well???
second, you have become part of the EU, so what...? so is Greece, look how well that worked out ....
and more regulations as to hormone's then USA.. lol... yeah right buddy....
and what does that have to do with Socialistic Government....? and that Socialistic government of yours isn't really working well, is it....? polish people have to work in other EU countries for a crappy pay, because in that shithole they call a homecountry the pay is even worse! Doesn't your country have social plans for people who are jobless? no reasonable minimum salary? yeah great country Poland....very socialistic  
also you guys steal away jobs from Dutch and Germans etc etc....because you guys work for half the pay... that way killing the market for the people who live in these countries.. you polish people are hated because of that.. also you guys drink 24/7 and behave as barbarians...go ask dutchguy or Droppingplates if i am lying about this....
 
third, i never said omnadren is bunk! it contains everything that it should hormone wise... it is just dirty and a shitty product hormone wise! it's the caproate ester.... it makes the product suck.... any experienced bodybuilder knows what i mean... and its dirty! it is... could be a bit better now, but i doubt it...
and also i never once said poland has crappy gear , or has bunk gear in the farmacia.... learn to read please!!!!
maybe you can do a course in reading, payed by that fantastic socialistic government of yours...
i said OMNADREN sucks!!! maybe there is fantastic gear coming from poland, there are some g2g ugls there.... but omnadren = crapp!
there is a reason it is being sold for half the price as SUSTANON.... get it?
nobody wants it....
so before accusing someone of something, at least make sure you have your facts straight.
i do not pretend to be anybody.... let alone max rep.... he is a cool dude.... but why would i want to pretend to be anybody but myself?
i am happy with myself.. lol
you do not like what i have to say..... well.... watcha gonna do?

and really , get the fuck out ? why because you say so.....? again watcha gonna do ..
internet tough guy....  

[deceiver]

first Poland IS a shithole....
why are 50% of polish people working in the Netherlands and Germany etc etc ? for half of the salary that Dutch and Germans earn??? well???
second, you have become part of the EU, so what...? so is Greece, look how well that worked out ....
and more regulations as to hormone's then USA.. lol... yeah right buddy....
and what does that have to do with Socialistic Government....? and that Socialistic government of yours isn't really working well, is it....? polish people have to work in other EU countries for a crappy pay, because in that shithole they call a homecountry the pay is even worse! Doesn't your country have social plans for people who are jobless? no reasonable minimum salary? yeah great country Poland....very socialistic  
also you guys steal away jobs from Dutch and Germans etc etc....because you guys work for half the pay... that way killing the market for the people who live in these countries.. you polish people are hated because of that.. also you guys drink 24/7 and behave as barbarians...go ask dutchguy or Droppingplates if i am lying about this....
 
third, i never said omnadren is bunk! it contains everything that it should hormone wise... it is just dirty and a shitty product hormone wise! it's the caproate ester.... it makes the product suck.... any experienced bodybuilder knows what i mean... and its dirty! it is... could be a bit better now, but i doubt it...
and also i never once said poland has crappy gear , or has bunk gear in the farmacia.... learn to read please!!!!
maybe you can do a course in reading, payed by that fantastic socialistic government of yours...
i said OMNADREN sucks!!! maybe there is fantastic gear coming from poland, there are some g2g ugls there.... but omnadren = crapp!
there is a reason it is being sold for half the price as SUSTANON.... get it?
nobody wants it....
so before accusing someone of something, at least make sure you have your facts straight.
i do not pretend to be anybody.... let alone max rep.... he is a cool dude.... but why would i want to pretend to be anybody but myself?
i am happy with myself.. lol
you do not like what i have to say..... well.... watcha gonna do?

and really , get the fuck out ? why because you say so.....? again watcha gonna do ..
internet tough guy....  

Shithole? It's regular first world country, like spain, czech republic, slovakia and so on. Jelfa is well known and respected drug company and people from all around the world use our products. Omnadren is 1 to 1 identical product to sustanon, just under different name. They had to change name of one of esthers for copyright reasons and that's all. You would know things like that if you knew jack shit about gear.

People emigrate from Poland just like they emigrate from whole Europe except from few wealthy countries. It's natural process and has nothing to do with our regulations or quality of Jelfa products. Again, you would know it if you were remotely close to being intelligent. Unfortunatelly, you're a moron.

[Max_Rep]

So how the fuck did they cope with deca dick from no test? I know for a fact that one study proven that minimal amount of deca supresses your own natural production of test 100%.

So assuming they used a little bit of test then... How much is little?

And no, I don't want you optimusprime to reply. You don't know jack shit.

We were taking HCG to come off a cycle which brought natural production back. Probably would have been better to use it all the way through. I don't know about just a little decca shutting you down because I never had an issue with that.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Shithole? It's regular first world country, like spain, czech republic, slovakia and so on. Jelfa is well known and respected drug company and people from all around the world use our products. Omnadren is 1 to 1 identical product to sustanon, just under different name. They had to change name of one of esthers for copyright reasons and that's all. You would know things like that if you knew jack shit about gear.

People emigrate from Poland just like they emigrate from whole Europe except from few wealthy countries. It's natural process and has nothing to do with our regulations or quality of Jelfa products. Again, you would know it if you were remotely close to being intelligent. Unfortunatelly, you're a moron.

copyright has nothing to do with it. different product , different name...
sustanon has different ester buddy, decanoate... omnadren has the caproate.... on omnadren you hold a shit more water then on sustanon.... i have used both... and the omnadren gave me a nice rash as an extra...and on the black market sustanon goes for double the price then that crappy omnadren... lol back in the day i paid 1,5 euro for a vial omnadren , shitty pink boxes.... even the boxes they come in look cheap and crappy, NOBODY LIKED IT OR WANTED IT , only if no other option was available..or the bodybuilder had no money he would by the cheap ass omna's

oh, and these polish guestworkers do not emigrate, do you even know what it means to emigrate?
poland is shithole, low salaries, no work , no social securities.... just like brazil lol!, but brazil has happy people and beautifull wether and nice beaches... poland is a dark shithole, like a lot of these slavic countries...
and what is natural about having all these polish guestworkers in the Netherlands?  it's a real invasion... they drive like idiots in their crappy old cars... always drunk lol..btw i worked for a dutch company that hired these people, so i saw first hand how they are... my boss actually did random alcohol checks on the polish workers.... lol!!! they drink every day, use speed, look 40 when infact they are 23.

where did i say they moved to another country because of your regulations and jelfa products... lolol! has nothing to do with it... learn to read!!!!!
calling me stupid, yet you can not even read and get your facts straight...
i am sure there are good polish people, but they stay in poland... have no reason to leave....
al these lowlifes go abroad to work....
anyway you can disagree with my on everything.... but not on drugs... i know my ped's....

na zdrowie!

[deceiver]

No, decanoate is synonym of caproate. Actually in new Jelfa products they changed name back becouse they didn't have to worry about copyright anymore. So now Omnadren consists of propionate, phenylpropionate, isacaproate and decanoate. I know becouse I have box of this shit right in my fucking hand right now.



This if you don't believe.

And I told you that there is no CORRELATION, you know what that is? I didn't tell that you told about CAUSATION, jesus christ kid, go back to school.

[Aussie Duffman]

Those ampules dont all look alike

[jon cole]

omnadren makes you insane, i want to destroy barbell with omnadren, it's more potent than sust
.

[deceiver]

And if you took these stuff outside of Poland then lol... No way on earth it was real. I know becouse there were billions of times when police destroyed groups producing fake Jelfa stuff. Last time it was in my city, produced by people everyone knew lol. No wonder everyone had cheap Jelfa in huge quantities here

[OptimusPrime1980]

No, decanoate is synonym of caproate. Actually in new Jelfa products they changed name back becouse they didn't have to worry about copyright anymore. So now Omnadren consists of propionate, phenylpropionate, isacaproate and decanoate. I know becouse I have box of this shit right in my fucking hand right now.



This if you don't believe.

And I told you that there is no CORRELATION, you know what that is? I didn't tell that you told about CAUSATION, jesus christ kid, go back to school.

you are confused bro.... isocaproate is the same as isohexanoate..
decanoate is a different ester then caproate buddy... the caproate ester is what made omnadren worthless..
since it acts faster then the decanoate. the timing of the various ester blends was not ok.... lot of estrogen built up.... = water retention to the 10th degree....
i asked around with some of my friends and you are right that omnadren now is a copy of sustanon... guess they knew their product was shit... lol.. still omnadren is worth half of what sus or abu's go for.... so go figure...
however poland IS still a shithole, and i would still not touch omna's if i could get my hands on enanthate from abu....you just can not compare Jelfa to organon or schering/plough, abu's etc etc, it's like comparing a trabant to a mercedes and i have real world experience! seen guys on omnadren get infections, i myself got a rash.... lots of buddy's of mine acne... etc etc... stuff was anything but clean... maybe now it's better but i doubt it...
btw test blends suck imo.. go for test E or test P....
anyway all this shit does not matter.. anyone can google and get info like this..... like i said i have real world exsperience, that is worth more then these silly details about a formula or whatever.... i used it all..... and omna's sucked.... period.... i never used it again and no buddy of mine ever used it again....
eastern euro countries are known for not being that strict with regulation bro....

correlation, causation... nice words .... none have anything to do with what i said...
how does polish people "emigrating" (which they are not even doing lol, they're just working abroad) correlate with jelfa and steroid/hormone/medicine regulations in your country.... remember we were talking steroids my friend.... that is what you said in that one sentence.... makes no sense...
i am busting your balls a bit, and calling poland a shithole... (which it is )
poland is not a 1st world country , and for a long time will not be one....
and you keep avoiding the points i made about your fantastic country and it's social government.. lol...
poland joined EU yes.... that does not make it a 1st world country.... its still far behind... like other eastern euro countries who have joined.
so you live in a dark shithole... it's not that i am attacking you as a person. relax a little....
btw who are you calling a kid?
i am 32, raise a daughter on my own.... i am a single dad.... i am responsable for that little girl ...... i am hardly a kid...i have responsabilities...

going by with what you wright and how you wright it, it's you that is the kid..... not me lol!

[OptimusPrime1980]

And if you took these stuff outside of Poland then lol... No way on earth it was real. I know becouse there were billions of times when police destroyed groups producing fake Jelfa stuff. Last time it was in my city, produced by people everyone knew lol. No wonder everyone had cheap Jelfa in huge quantities here

correct.....
but hg gear always is and was being faked.... still is...
mine were real.....
omna's always were cheaper then the rest .... always...there is a reason for that....

[gh15]

omnadren makes you insane, i want to destroy barbell with omnadren, it's more potent than sust
.

omnadran shmomnadran ,, it all the same damn thing is legit,, learn it ,, i haev so much omnadran up my ass i could name my prostat omna,, it is good very good testosterona but! and this is a big  big but! when you finaly realize the truth about bodybuild and you all will ,, you wil see that top chef tesosterona is same IF NOT BETTER! than pharma grade ,, ESPECIALY today when pharma grade is truly being fakes to an unbeliavbel level,, if you can get legit omnadran its good but it wont chaneg your bloofy look if you dont have the right compound to go with it !

water does not! equal quality size,, it can enhance size but it has to be in the right places,, water is water...it had to be in the muscle mainly to produce size! ,, testosterona water tend to be outside muscle as much as inside muscle and this is what ruin looks of today bodybuild,, you need to know how to cycle testosterona into your regimen ,, you can get very far with 250-500mg testosterona if you have the other products in tact! high testosterona that you hear in the 2 gram is usualy reserved to the most highest addicts thta really put in their delts every single day 15+ iu of gh on a biblistic ceramonial basis for months! 15 -20 -25 even the ones who take 15 iu gh ...2  gram testosterona is not their level of play ,, the 2 gram testosterona got to go with good good dose of gh in the 20s and even then! it doesnt alwys look pretty lol

gh15 approved

[deceiver]

you are confused bro.... isocaproate is the same as isohexanoate..
decanoate is a different ester then caproate buddy... the caproate ester is what made omnadren worthless..
since it acts faster then the decanoate. the timing of the various ester blends was not ok.... lot of estrogen built up.... = water retention to the 10th degree....
i asked around with some of my friends and you are right that omnadren now is a copy of sustanon... guess they knew their product was shit... lol.. still omnadren is worth half of what sus or abu's go for.... so go figure...
however poland IS still a shithole, and i would still not touch omna's if i could get my hands on enanthate from abu....you just can not compare Jelfa to organon or schering/plough, abu's etc etc, it's like comparing a trabant to a mercedes and i have real world experience! seen guys on omnadren get infections, i myself got a rash.... lots of buddy's of mine acne... etc etc... stuff was anything but clean... maybe now it's better but i doubt it...
btw test blends suck imo.. go for test E or test P....
anyway all this shit does not matter.. anyone can google and get info like this..... like i said i have real world exsperience, that is worth more then these silly details about a formula or whatever.... i used it all..... and omna's sucked.... period.... i never used it again and no buddy of mine ever used it again....
eastern euro countries are known for not being that strict with regulation bro....

correlation, causation... nice words .... none have anything to do with what i said...
how does polish people "emigrating" (which they are not even doing lol, they're just working abroad) correlate with jelfa and steroid/hormone/medicine regulations in your country.... remember we were talking steroids my friend.... that is what you said in that one sentence.... makes no sense...
i am busting your balls a bit, and calling poland a shithole... (which it is )
poland is not a 1st world country , and for a long time will not be one....
and you keep avoiding the points i made about your fantastic country and it's social government.. lol...
poland joined EU yes.... that does not make it a 1st world country.... its still far behind... like other eastern euro countries who have joined.
so you live in a dark shithole... it's not that i am attacking you as a person. relax a little....
btw who are you calling a kid?
i am 32, raise a daughter on my own.... i am a single dad.... i am responsable for that little girl ...... i am hardly a kid...i have responsabilities...

going by with what you wright and how you wright it, it's you that is the kid..... not me lol!

Can you fucking read you moron? There is no caproate in Jelfa anymore for few years now. And when it was switched it was just about copyright thing, ask anyone who worked there.

And no, you never had real Omna unless you had prescription for it lol. You cannot tell any difference between bunk and real stuff, I'm sorry.

My friend has real Prolongatum from doctor, he has also fake Prolongatum from black market. It's 1:1 identical, guys who made those fakes did REAL good job.

[gh15]

Can you fucking read you moron? There is no caproate in Jelfa anymore for few years now. And when it was switched it was just about copyright thing, ask anyone who worked there.

And no, you never had real Omna unless you had prescription for it lol. You cannot tell any difference between bunk and real stuff, I'm sorry.

My friend has real Prolongatum from doctor, he has also fake Prolongatum from black market. It's 1:1 identical, guys who made those fakes did REAL good job.

i had legit omnas for years from retabolil and then from naps both of them served me to my feet with all the omnas i wanted ,, naps was the export version of omna to the ukrainian market and eastern europian market ,, ret was legit real deal omnas ,, got so many of them ,, yes good quality testosterona,, it wasnt fake ,, al through 2000-2005 wasnt fake but! but! ! take a top chef like strngo ...he can make omnadren look like a mini version of mexicana burito compare to the product he will come up with ,, its all in the chef and quality of powder ,, do you think felas that sit in americana 240 250 lb single digit now day got there with lol omnadrans all over lol they fucking use top chefs all over ,, half of them are fuckin remailers and dealers,,

gh15 approved

[Swlabr]

gh15, while you're here, just a quick question -- I feel a small amount of fat under my left nipple, I don't have any anti-estrogens at hand. I'm on 50 mg masteron EOD, and I'm concerned about gyno. If I bump the masteron will that take care of it?

[gh15]

gh15, while you're here, just a quick question -- I feel a small amount of fat under my left nipple, I don't have any anti-estrogens at hand. I'm on 50 mg masteron EOD, and I'm concerned about gyno. If I bump the masteron will that take care of it?

no,, letrozole will but ....letrozole is one shitty product,, especialy if liquid research chemicals,, then again ...if you feel like you growing tits...and im not talking abotu little puff puff im talking if you feel a big ass problem then letrozole will flaten it out or surgery ,,

i woudnt worry abotu small things,, usualy most fellas exagurate and create a problem from nothing,, fat under nipple is usualy adipose and it is because you are in the mid doubles or high singls,, get down to 6% and you will se its gone ,,if its there and noticable then surgery but most dont hav ehtis problems

gh15 approved

[Swlabr]

Great, that's a worry off my mind. Thanks!

[OptimusPrime1980]

Can you fucking read you moron? There is no caproate in Jelfa anymore for few years now. And when it was switched it was just about copyright thing, ask anyone who worked there.

And no, you never had real Omna unless you had prescription for it lol. You cannot tell any difference between bunk and real stuff, I'm sorry.

My friend has real Prolongatum from doctor, he has also fake Prolongatum from black market. It's 1:1 identical, guys who made those fakes did REAL good job.

isn't that what i said???
you are the one who does not seem to be able to read... yet are calling me the moron.... lol!
i may be a moron, at least i do not live in a fucking dark shithole... 

and i had real ones buddy..... you do not know me , and who i hung around with.... so please....
only with prescription huh... lol yeah right.....
the guys i knew did not buy from farmarcia's , they bought straight from the factories.... lol...
farmarcias do not sell thousends of units you know....


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