A lifetime natural bodybuilder - is this true? Opinions?

[Dr Dutch]

Then this is a brave man....

[purenaturalstrength]

dutchguy i asked a picture of yourself to assess if you are in fact correct when you say i have lousy genetik compared to you

you can send it in pm (no homo) i will not distribute it

[Dr Dutch]

I have the intention nor the desire to do so, sir..

[purenaturalstrength]

I have the intention nor the desire to do so, sir..

then why make such a random claim if you have no intention of proving it


you are just talk and talk but not really action or proof


not melting down just pointing this out

[DroppingPlates]

Which claim exactly?

[Dr Dutch]

Which claim exactly?

If I remember correctly I wrote (days ago?) that I think his genetics are worse than mine.
He's a natural, he trained very hard and devoted. He posted some pics of his and he's just not as good as I was after a period of hard natural training. That's it. Other guys have better genetics than me. What's the problem here ?

[DroppingPlates]

If I remember correctly I wrote (days ago?) that I think his genetics are worse than mine.
He's a natural, he trained very hard and devoted. He posted some pics of his and he's just not as good as I was after a period of hard natural training. That's it. Other guys have better genetics than me. What's the problem here ?

Guess the real problem lies in PNS. To me, it seems he's a pretty insecure person, looking for things like " the truth", "proofs", "facts", etc. He believes no one here, except GH15 and people posting their pics (well, "their" is very relative, on a thing called "Internet"). Other than that the guy has zero sense of humor. Talking about lifting weights serious business for him. No hate on him, just my opinion/observation, for what's worth it.

[purenaturalstrength]

If I remember correctly I wrote (days ago?) that I think his genetics are worse than mine.
He's a natural, he trained very hard and devoted. He posted some pics of his and he's just not as good as I was after a period of hard natural training. That's it. Other guys have better genetics than me. What's the problem here ?

problem is that you are not the most upstanding poster and that's why i can't take your word for it

[DroppingPlates]

problem is that you are not the most upstanding poster and that's why i can't take your word for it

So "the most upstanding poster" has automatically the best genetics? 

[Dr Dutch]

problem is that you are not the most upstanding poster and that's why i can't take your word for it

Forget my statements about your and my genetic, dude, was does it matter ?


























(but mine are better)

[purenaturalstrength]

So "the most upstanding poster" has automatically the best genetics? 

i'm saying i can believe some posters when they claim something without providing evidence, dutchguy is not one of them

[purenaturalstrength]

Guess the real problem lies in PNS. To me, it seems he's a pretty insecure person, looking for things like " the truth", "proofs", "facts", etc. He believes no one here, except GH15 and people posting their pics (well, "their" is very relative, on a thing called "Internet"). Other than that the guy has zero sense of humor. Talking about lifting weights serious business for him. No hate on him, just my opinion/observation, for what's worth it.

Lifting weights is serious business.

[njflex]

yes bro , sad isn't it?
well this is my personal goal...
mass to height ratio that is.....
so no competition for me.... lol.. sad, but in this day and age you are stuck at national level with a physique like this.....
but to me bodybuilding is personal, no need to compete.....
anyone who trains to be bigger and better built, is a BODYBUILDER!!!!!
we all have different goals and expectations though....

exactly,,,you go to gym,train,eat things start to happen,,,,you advance and go 2 routes natural or not and the latter if you do things right things really take off,,then you decide if you want to look good every day,beach,fitness ripped or try to be a beast ,somewhere in between if possible is most peoples take or goal ,,if u stay clean/natural /drugfree you hit your limit whethers its size,condition and you stay put and don't cry about it.

[Dr Dutch]

Come to think of it, I can't recall ever writing a lie about myself on getbig. And I am being serious now...

[purenaturalstrength]

Come to think of it, I can't recall ever writing a lie about myself on getbig. And I am being serious now...

it's not lying if you actually believe it to be true, it's being delusional


which i suspect you are

[Dr Dutch]

I'm not delusional, I'm a helicopter...

But seriously: what weird statements did I make in your eyes ?

[purenaturalstrength]

I'm not delusional, I'm a helicopter...

But seriously: what weird statements did I make in your eyes ?

superior genetik, would not be that weird if you did not refuse to show some form of evidence

[Dr Dutch]

superior genetik, would not be that weird if you did not refuse to show some form of evidence

I'm not in shape lately, and I never was a poser back then. So I cannot post a pic for proof. But does that prove that I am wrong ? If you disbelieve me, oke with me. Don't be so hostile, I'm not putting you down as a person or something...

[DroppingPlates]

Lifting weights is serious business.

Why so serious?

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

ja klopt!! goede gouden tijd! ook hadden we de machtigste vloot van de wereld... 

maar waar we nu zitten... in de zinkende boot die EU heet.... pfffffffffffff vreselijk!
en om over de minderheden problemen maar te zwijgen....
pedo's krijgen taakstraf, maar til je de belasting ga je jaren t'hok in...
als je een loverboy kapot ramt, ga je zelf langer t'hok in als die lul...
de zorg stelt niks meer voor, alles flikkeren ze uit t basispakket, terwijl de prijzen omhoog gaan, net als de huur trouwens... maar de salarissen stijgen niet in verhouding mee...
ik ben blij dat ik er weg ben bro....echt....
brasil heeft ook zijn nadelen, maar hier ben je vrij....in nederland word je geleefd door de samenleving....
elke dag hetzelfde ritme, de sleur... en je moet wel! , je hebt geen keus... moet de rekeningen betalen...

Modern day slavery. Nothing more nothing less.

[OptimusPrime1980]

Modern day slavery. Nothing more nothing less.

yeah bro exactly...
you dutch? or did you actually take the time to google translate??? 

[OptimusPrime1980]

Why so serious?

why all the trouble of the make up (or photoshop??)
the dude looks scary enough wihout any "help" lolol!!!

[monstermunch]

purenaturaldrivel, how did your first cycle go?

[DroppingPlates]

why all the trouble of the make up (or photoshop??)
the dude looks scary enough wihout any "help" lolol!!!

You saw that ZK vid with his joker "imitation"? Hilarious stuff, but he made a point with his "why so serious" statement, spending your time in the gym should also be fun.
Yeah, he's got that face-only-a-mother-could-love factor 

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

yeah bro exactly...
you dutch? or did you actually take the time to google translate??? 

Yes bro I was born in holland, but don't plan on staying there for the rest of my life, for obvious reasons.