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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #150 on: February 09, 2012, 11:32:02 AM »
honestly when i have my company i won't even consider people under 30. I've been applying this to my personal life with great success.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #151 on: February 09, 2012, 11:33:43 AM »
Kids today, fresh outta school, can't find work because there are still a lot of educated, experienced professionals looking for work that have been out of work and are settling for less to support their families.  Companies are trying to do way more with less and would rather invest in solid talent that can produce while dumping twice the work on them rather than hiring 2 or 3 inexperienced, newly-grads that haven't proven a thing yet.   In addition, companies are sending all the entry-level work to India and paying far less there than they would with an inexperienced, newly-grad salary.   

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #152 on: February 09, 2012, 11:34:31 AM »
lol Exploiting? There is no job where they can get paid that much with no experience or skills. They'll end up in McD and will keep complaining.
They are sellers their only goal is to sell, if they don't sell they don't get paid. What the hell do they expect, getting paid for doing nothing? lazy fucks.
I sell renewable energy. Its the fastest growing market and one of the why which has not only not been affected by recession but has grown 30%.
My job is to make sure those lazy fucks get paid.

pay them by the hour, you can't expect them to put all there time into trying to sell something and not get sales all the while working hard, they are better off working a regular min wage job in the town there college is in.  Also trying to do sales sending out young kids to sell your products looks bad on your company and also no one is going to buy something from a young kid, where in a depression, you won't get many sales even if you had seasoned professional salesman going out.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #153 on: February 09, 2012, 11:39:17 AM »
pay them by the hour, you can't expect them to put all there time into trying to sell something and not get sales all the while working hard, they are better off working a regular min wage job in the town there college is in.  Also trying to do sales sending out young kids to sell your products looks bad on your company and also no one is going to buy something from a young kid, where in a depression, you won't get many sales even if you had seasoned professional salesman going out.

I never wanted to hire people in the 18-25 range. To this day i still push for another profile of employees but the directors think otherwise. I just to my best and pick the one that are more mature.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #154 on: February 09, 2012, 11:42:01 AM »
I never wanted to hire people in the 18-25 range. To this day i still push for another profile of employees but the directors think otherwise. I just to my best and pick the one that are more mature.

Hiring hourly rates like that can be challenging because the folks hired know the value of overtime....gotta be able to manage that....it can be challenging and will obliterate some budgets.  IT folk are the worst offenders.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #155 on: February 09, 2012, 11:45:56 AM »
Kids today, fresh outta school, can't find work because there are still a lot of educated, experienced professionals looking for work that have been out of work and are settling for less to support their families.  Companies are trying to do way more with less and would rather invest in solid talent that can produce while dumping twice the work on them rather than hiring 2 or 3 inexperienced, newly-grads that haven't proven a thing yet.   In addition, companies are sending all the entry-level work to India and paying far less there than they would with an inexperienced, newly-grad salary.  

And more companies should do this IMHO. Put pressure on the entitled little kunts in this country coming out with their degrees who think it's unfair and that they are somehow owed something.

If you don't like it, start your own fucking business and see how it feels to bleed green.

honestly when i have my company i won't even consider people under 30. I've been applying this to my personal life with great success.

This.

The ditzy shits with 0 life experience and bellies still reeking of alcohol from their "college" escapades can rot in piss for all I care. Thinking a piece of paper saying you read a few books and passed a few tests makes you entitled to a comfortable and secure fututre. The very notion is shockingly absurd.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #156 on: February 09, 2012, 12:05:32 PM »
Hiring hourly rates like that can be challenging because the folks hired know the value of overtime....gotta be able to manage that....it can be challenging and will obliterate some budgets.  IT folk are the worst offenders.

Its disgusting how the IT dude in the company is treated. Everything he asks they give it to him 5 yes five 27" monitors, 1 laptop and 2 towers, plus all the gadget: blackberry etc etc all he does is play fucking videogames and browse the internet.

Btw here is another cool story...a colleague of mine, from another company decided to pay for the salesmen gas and food. Guess what? a lot of them went "free gas and food! yey!!" and while they where hired they didn't work at all but they ate everyday at a restaurants and had free gas. Stuff like this is why salesmen don't get paid unless they sale.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #157 on: February 09, 2012, 12:53:55 PM »
honestly when i have my company i won't even consider people under 30. I've been applying this to my personal life with great success.

Wise words.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #158 on: February 09, 2012, 01:03:27 PM »
Its disgusting how the IT dude in the company is treated. Everything he asks they give it to him 5 yes five 27" monitors, 1 laptop and 2 towers, plus all the gadget: blackberry etc etc all he does is play fucking videogames and browse the internet.

Btw here is another cool story...a colleague of mine, from another company decided to pay for the salesmen gas and food. Guess what? a lot of them went "free gas and food! yey!!" and while they where hired they didn't work at all but they ate everyday at a restaurants and had free gas. Stuff like this is why salesmen don't get paid unless they sale.
Your a idiot, you can't get people to do the work because those with sales skills, the good looking/sociable are the ones who actually have jobs. That's like recruiting for the nfl from a high schools av club.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #159 on: February 09, 2012, 01:37:14 PM »
Your a idiot, you can't get people to do the work because those with sales skills, the good looking/sociable are the ones who actually have jobs. That's like recruiting for the nfl from a high schools av club.

The people in college do not have jobs. They are all day complaining how they don't have money and how they have been seeking ajob for soooo long. You offer them a job and they reject it in a fraction of a second. If they weren't pampered kiddos, they parent kicked their adult ass out of their home and HAD TO make a living they wouldn't act this way.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #160 on: February 09, 2012, 01:40:05 PM »
And more companies should do this IMHO. Put pressure on the entitled little kunts in this country coming out with their degrees who think it's unfair and that they are somehow owed something.

If you don't like it, start your own fucking business and see how it feels to bleed green.

This.

The ditzy shits with 0 life experience and bellies still reeking of alcohol from their "college" escapades can rot in piss for all I care. Thinking a piece of paper saying you read a few books and passed a few tests makes you entitled to a comfortable and secure fututre. The very notion is shockingly absurd.

Yes. Sense of entitlement is the word. "i have a degree" so what? have you ever worked? no. are you willing to travel? No. are you willing to take FREE course the company is offering? i have no time. lazy fucks.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #161 on: February 09, 2012, 01:41:03 PM »
i worked there once too, contrary to popular belief there are actually good people working there that are just down on their luck. no shame in taking a shitjob, but it is still a shitjob and no one can live on those wages (at the minimum wage level anyways).


not really much people can do about that though, as it's just bad luck getting stuck in that position for a lot of people, and since wealth is a zero-sum system, not everyone can have a middle class or higher salary and the usa economy is shifting away from manufacture of physical goods to manufacture of intellectual property shrinking a lot of the middle class in the process. 
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #162 on: February 09, 2012, 01:41:27 PM »
The people in college do not have jobs. They are all day complaining how they don't have money and how they have been seeking ajob for soooo long. You offer them a job and they reject it in a fraction of a second. If they weren't pampered kiddos, they parent kicked their adult ass out of their home and HAD TO make a living they wouldn't act this way.
Whatever dude I hear this crap from employers all the time, mcdonalds and all those shitholes never have hard times finding people, your obviously not offer a very good deal.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #163 on: February 09, 2012, 01:44:02 PM »
Whatever dude I hear this crap from employers all the time, mcdonalds and all those shitholes never have hard times finding people, your obviously not offer a very good deal.

You sound like a union worker parrot.
I hear this bs from cozy kiddos. They are want 6 figures jobs, where they don't have to work hard at all, walking distance from home and a reverence for taking your job.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #164 on: February 09, 2012, 01:51:41 PM »
you guys are ignoring the fact youths nowadays are brainwashed by tv almost since birth and think they re all going to become actors, lawyers or forensics...Their parents dont help and also push them to believe this, living viacrously thru them. All these people have no faith. Fact is you can be happy in life not doing anything of what you expected in the firstplace. But people nowadays struggle to be content with what they have. They always want more. They re never satisfied. And they only care about themselves and fucking other people in the ass. They might be smart, but they have no heart, cause they have no faith in soemthing bigger than themselves. Fact is, old people dont hire smart asses, but people with heart.

kids are also told to be "cool" with everyone but fact is that in the workplace it's a giant jungle, a giant free for all. You have to adapt better than others to survive. Most of the time in most places, with faith and being fair with people you can go from bottom to top. The problem is that most young people nowadays have no faith, and are either complete egotistical assholes or the oposite, whimps. Down to earth kids with a heart are very very rare. Most come from the shitiest social classes.

And also, simply put...there s too many people on earth, and not enough jobs. Thisis going to be a growing concern and it's not going to end well. Thanks elites (industrials, journalists, politician who are all friends) who promoted multiculturalism and globalization to import the third world in the west in order to lower the salaries for everyone thus increasing their own profits, while increasing the competition between human beings who have never been as shallow and atomized, lost, as they are nowadays. All of this due to the abandonning of God.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #165 on: February 09, 2012, 02:04:00 PM »
Whatever dude I hear this crap from employers all the time, mcdonalds and all those shitholes never have hard times finding people, your obviously not offer a very good deal.

And by the way the salesmen we have working are averaging 250-300€ (333-400 usd) a day working no more than 6 hours. They don't want this job ok, they won't find anything remotely close.
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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #166 on: February 09, 2012, 02:04:40 PM »
One of the major problems of this generation is a lack of work ethic and blaming everyone for their lack of wealth. Do you think 30 years ago it was easy to earn a living if you were young?  Yes, the economy is bad but saying whoa is me and everyone owes me will get you no where.

 I don't know any successful person that didn't pay their dues in life and yes start at the bottom. There are so many examples. One guy I know is a construction worker that worked many 16 hour plus days and weekends/holidays. He started his own very tiny construction company.  Now at 47 he bids and gets 50 million dollar plus jobs and employs 100's of people building bridges and roads.

I know I will get a lot fu's on this but the truth hurts. Being a slacker is one of the major problems with this generation.
true. And being a slacker is linked to having no faith anymore and being an atheist. Your parents abandonned you in front of the tv, were to busy divorcing, doing "their thing", sacrifying their kids for their confort instead of sacrifying themselves for them.

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« Reply #167 on: February 09, 2012, 02:11:45 PM »
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« Reply #169 on: February 09, 2012, 02:55:05 PM »
Shark Jumped.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #170 on: February 09, 2012, 03:05:28 PM »
You sound like a union worker parrot.
I hear this bs from cozy kiddos. They are want 6 figures jobs, where they don't have to work hard at all, walking distance from home and a reverence for taking your job.
Lol I work 30-40 hours a week while in school don't fucking tell me I got some sense of entitlement. Your the one claiming to have some magical job that no one seems to want.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #171 on: February 09, 2012, 03:08:15 PM »
Did you know: when you re hired, others candidates arent. Life is unfair.

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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #172 on: February 09, 2012, 03:10:13 PM »
btw, i'm gonna end this thread by saying this


I HAVE A DEGREE.....(from a very good school as well)




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Re: what the hell do unemployed college graduates do all day
« Reply #173 on: February 09, 2012, 03:12:13 PM »
Lol I work 30-40 hours a week while in school don't fucking tell me I got some sense of entitlement. Your the one claiming to have some magical job that no one seems to want.

There is no magic. The more you work and the more efficient you are at it the more you get paid. And its only students that don't want it. Salesmen from other companies constantly ask to work with us. The problem here is different. They have experience but not in the field and the ones that do want to start at a sales team manager position minimum or want crazy "extras".
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« Reply #174 on: February 09, 2012, 03:13:24 PM »
btw, i'm gonna end this thread by saying this


I HAVE A DEGREE.....(from a very good school as well)




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