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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #100 on: February 12, 2012, 01:17:35 PM »
christ, sorry to hear this, prime.

its always hard to judge a persons mood when reading on forums.. but i must say, you sound very 'positive', all things considered! best of british to you.

Bradistani,

I am a big believer in the power of positive thinking....not that I expect to magically "think" the cancer away.

Frankly, I am a bit afraid of the unknown, as are most folks. Any surgery is a risk. Fortunately, I am healthier (aside from the prostate cancer) than most folks, even those who are a lot younger than I am. There is no reason to think I won't come out of this just fine. But, a little insurance is good too. This is why I am getting my annual physical in two weeks before I schedule the surgery.

So yeah, I hope my mood is good.

Actually, I am really pleased and frankly a little supprised at the great responses to this thread on Getbig. Almost without exception, the posts here have been really supportive. Guess you Getbiggers are a lot cooler people than I originally gave credit for being. I feel like a lucky guy because I am not facing this alone by any means. My family, friends and Internet acquaintances are here for me encouraging me to make whatever treatment decision I choose and wishing me the best. -Could not ask for more.....accept maybe hearing from the doctor that the cancer diagnosis was all a big mistake.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #101 on: February 12, 2012, 05:40:03 PM »
I really wish you the best in this battle.  Your health is never realized for the treasure it is until you have a problem. I hope your loved ones have you in health for a long time.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #102 on: February 12, 2012, 06:16:50 PM »
My positive thoughts go out to you Primemuscle.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #103 on: February 12, 2012, 07:33:29 PM »
Prime,
I chose to have a radical  prostatectomy as I had the cancer in both sides of the prostate, at the time of my surgery the Da Vinci surgery was not on the scene, so this shows the progress made since 01 when I had my surgery. As far as anyone having surgery, best thing to do is start doing kagel exercises to help with incontinence as your prostate acts as a big stopper to shut your urine off etc and that area will be weakened as the prostate is removed.

Di Vinci is minimally evasive surgery with small portals and excellent recovery time with less side effects, they've gotton it down where basically it's like having your knee scoped. Several friends have had it and their recovery time was basically half time for those that had radical surgery.

With your age being 51 which is quite young, I think you'll recover excellent with robotic surgery, again if you have cancer in just one side of your prostate, then your already 50% better then I was from jump street.

As far a side effects go, my erections  are 70% of what they were but, with the blue wonder pill and use of the vac I'm fine. Some very small leakage during heavy lifting but hell I'm alive.

Be sure to ask the urologist about your recovery time and if you can use a vacuum pump to aid in the recovery time so you can start to exercise your penis to get the blood flow back in the area which helps tremendously in the healing and firmness of your erections. Best of luck and feel free to hit me up if you need any questions answered personally.

For those diagnosed with the disease here is a excellent read: Dr. Patrick Walsh's Guide to Surviving Prostate Cancer. He's head urologist for Johns Hopkins. Peace all.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #104 on: February 12, 2012, 11:36:56 PM »
Thanks again for the reply Meechz,

Just wanted to clear up a couple of things. I am not 51 years old, although that would be nice. I am actually 67 years old. The biopsy showed that I have localized cancer in both nodes and in the transition area. So hopefully, although all areas of my prostate is involved, the cancer has not gone outside the margins of the prostate. The Gleason score is 3+3=6 which means it is not an aggressive cancer according to my doctor.

Went to see a demonstration of the Da Vinci robot today. It is absolutely amazing. Saw a video of a Da Vinci prostatectomy. -Looks bloody, but also looks to be a fairly simple procedure barring any complications.

I already do Kegel exercises every morning and every night. Hopefully, this puts me ahead of the game. I'm a little concerned about stretching the urethra by using a vacuum pump. On the other hand, the doctor said I might lose a inch or so off my penis length.  Me being a porn star and all, I am not looking forward to that (joking of course).  ;)

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #105 on: February 13, 2012, 01:26:49 AM »
Prime,
I also had 3+3 gleason localized in both lobes, you should be fine and yes there is about a inch loss of length. It is a tad bloody as the prostate is about the size of a walnut with no easy way to be removed. Other then the loss of the money shot, you porn career should stay intact. Keep in touch and let me know how things turn out.  ;D

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #106 on: February 26, 2012, 08:39:28 PM »
No symptoms really. Fortunately, because I have been on TRT for the better part of the last three years, my urologist has been monitoring my PSA (prostate specific antigen) numbers very closely. When the results showed the PSA climbing, we first thought it was because I'd both stopped taking Proscar and started TRT. Both of these things can change one's PSA, but then so can a raft of other things too.

Obviously, I have stopped the TRT. Testosterone may not cause prostate cancer but it supposedly can make it more aggressive if you already have it.

Is Testosterone far by the worst in causing prostate hypertrophy?

Or other stronger androgens worse -- like Tren than Test?

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #107 on: February 26, 2012, 11:10:34 PM »
Only read first page.

I know a lot of u beleive well most people that herbs are bullshit.

Strongly suggest u give them a go.

In Europe they will use there first line as saw palmetto.

Saw palmetto is proven to be as effective as proscar for lowering dht and proven to be better at shrinking the prostate and psa levels.
On top of it saw palmetto holds the biggest key over proscar most important thing....
Saw palmetto blocks the ar on the prostate. Yup blocks androgens from binding. Biggest problem solved.


Also strong dose vitamin e. There have been studies and many people have cured any cancer from things like vit e. Studies showing it strongly slowed down the cancer as well as reversed it.but. the studies said there was a one percent chance increase in heart disease in this study.

Bull fucking shit. The foverment can't make money off ten dollar vitamin e. That's the real reason. They need people to get sick and spend thousands on medicines tens of thousands each surgery and chemotherapy and more more more.

I strongly think you should read into what I'm saying. I beleive in it hundred percent. It took my yrs of researching steroids before I took them and seven years of researching cancer. So many success stoeys of women know there own curing breast cancer with vit e and flax seed oil. Really just read onto this on your own I have faith in it. Saw palmetto. Vit e. Vit c and moderate vit a. All very strong anti oxidants the e is the work horse for the cancer cells tho.

And if u don't look for the studies or stories remeber take more than what's on hr labels most the vit e studies uses two thousand iu a day.



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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #108 on: February 26, 2012, 11:27:22 PM »
Research published in the Journal of Cell Biology November 17, 2008; 183(4):697-710 has shown that vitamin D can adjust almost everything in the cancer cell, from its genetic messaging to its cytoskeleton. It can switch genes on and off, and it can reduce cell division, and it can ‘calm’ the cancer cells so that they settle rather than spread. It seems vitamin D can actually return a cancer cell to a normal and healthy state. One pathway seems to control everything. That is a very important set of findings.

But if you are in any doubt about its potential, then the pharmaceutical companies are certainly not. For example, Memorial Sloan-Kettering have recently been involved in a Phase III clinical trial where a synthetically made, concentrated form of vitamin D, called Asentar, significantly improved patient survival times. “It has enormous potential” said Dr Howard Scher, team leader.

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Forgot vit d. Read that. Points out two things. There are cures.... And also points out the medical xpmunity just wants money. Making a fucking vit d pharmaceutical pill.... Why..... We aledy have vit d pills for five dollars a bottle. Obvious answer. They can't prescirbe vit d. so make a drug add something to it with vit d and u got itself a two hundred dollar a bottle of anti cancer drug.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #109 on: February 26, 2012, 11:30:13 PM »
Only read first page.

I know a lot of u beleive well most people that herbs are bullshit.

Strongly suggest u give them a go.

In Europe they will use there first line as saw palmetto.

Saw palmetto is proven to be as effective as proscar for lowering dht and proven to be better at shrinking the prostate and psa levels.
On top of it saw palmetto holds the biggest key over proscar most important thing....
Saw palmetto blocks the ar on the prostate. Yup blocks androgens from binding. Biggest problem solved.


Also strong dose vitamin e. There have been studies and many people have cured any cancer from things like vit e. Studies showing it strongly slowed down the cancer as well as reversed it.but. the studies said there was a one percent chance increase in heart disease in this study.

Bull fucking shit. The foverment can't make money off ten dollar vitamin e. That's the real reason. They need people to get sick and spend thousands on medicines tens of thousands each surgery and chemotherapy and more more more.

I strongly think you should read into what I'm saying. I beleive in it hundred percent. It took my yrs of researching steroids before I took them and seven years of researching cancer. So many success stoeys of women know there own curing breast cancer with vit e and flax seed oil. Really just read onto this on your own I have faith in it. Saw palmetto. Vit e. Vit c and moderate vit a. All very strong anti oxidants the e is the work horse for the cancer cells tho.

And if u don't look for the studies or stories remeber take more than what's on hr labels most the vit e studies uses two thousand iu a day.



thanks! saw palmetto all the way :)
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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #110 on: February 26, 2012, 11:48:12 PM »
In early stages of BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia or enlarged prostrate), 320 up to 500 mg per day is reportedly necessary. It may take four to six weeks to see results. After that, 160 mg twice daily should be enough.

That is he extract to nor the full berries they are weak.

Also forgot to note it blocks estrogen as well drom binding to the prostate possibly biggest factor with new research
Here's just a quick link off Google but there are many studies on pubmed to difficult to view on my phone tho

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 http://books.google.ca/books?id=G4K28YQtS8QC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA128&ots=OzxXepmI5a&dq=saw+palmetto+blocks+androgen+binding&output=html_text


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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2012, 11:59:41 PM »
To the OP: I didn't read the whole thread, but don't forget that surgery isn't your only option for treatment. Radiation therapy is another good option. Same chance for cure as surgery, but different side effect profile. Worth at least considering, especially if your urologist didn't mention it. Almost no risk for incontinence with radiation vs. real risk with surgery, although the treatment course can be up to 9 weeks. Up to you, of course. Just be sure to explore all of your options.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #112 on: February 27, 2012, 11:38:03 AM »
Only read first page.

I know a lot of u beleive well most people that herbs are bullshit.

Strongly suggest u give them a go.

In Europe they will use there first line as saw palmetto.

Saw palmetto is proven to be as effective as proscar for lowering dht and proven to be better at shrinking the prostate and psa levels.
On top of it saw palmetto holds the biggest key over proscar most important thing....
Saw palmetto blocks the ar on the prostate. Yup blocks androgens from binding. Biggest problem solved.


Also strong dose vitamin e. There have been studies and many people have cured any cancer from things like vit e. Studies showing it strongly slowed down the cancer as well as reversed it.but. the studies said there was a one percent chance increase in heart disease in this study.

Bull fucking shit. The foverment can't make money off ten dollar vitamin e. That's the real reason. They need people to get sick and spend thousands on medicines tens of thousands each surgery and chemotherapy and more more more.

I strongly think you should read into what I'm saying. I beleive in it hundred percent. It took my yrs of researching steroids before I took them and seven years of researching cancer. So many success stoeys of women know there own curing breast cancer with vit e and flax seed oil. Really just read onto this on your own I have faith in it. Saw palmetto. Vit e. Vit c and moderate vit a. All very strong anti oxidants the e is the work horse for the cancer cells tho.

And if u don't look for the studies or stories remeber take more than what's on hr labels most the vit e studies uses two thousand iu a day.




About two years ago, I stopped taking Finasteride to treat prostate hyperplasia and started taking Saw Palmetto. My main reason for doing this was because Finasteride or Proscar both can produce unwanted side effects such as ED. The side effect I would have preferred would have been regrowing hair on my head. Unfortunately, these meds did not do this for me.

When my PSA started going up, the doctor and I both figured it was a result of my switching from Finasteride to Saw Palmetto. Yet I continued the Saw Palmetto anyway. This was also about the time I started taking Testosterone Cypionate which we believed was another probable cause of the rising PSA.

Anyway, here I am today with a diagnosis of prostate cancer. One good thing is that because I was on TRT, my PSA was closely monitored by my doctor. No doubt this helped in diagnosing the prostate cancer early on.

Saw Palmetto may be just a beneficial in treating an enlarged prostate as Finasteride, but you couldn't prove it from my experience.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2012, 03:56:18 PM »
:) :)About two years ago, I stopped taking Finasteride to treat prostate hyperplasia and started taking Saw Palmetto. My main reason for doing this was because Finasteride or Proscar both can produce unwanted side effects such as ED. The side effect I would have preferred would have been regrowing hair on my head. Unfortunately, these meds did not do this for me.

When my PSA started going up, the doctor and :) I both figured it was a result of my switching from Finasteride to Saw Palmetto. Yet I continued the Saw Palmetto anyway. This was also about the time I started taking Testosterone Cypionate which we believed was another probable cause of the rising PSA.

Anyway, here I am today with a diagnosis of prostate cancer. One good thing is that because I was on TRT, my PSA was closely monitored by my doctor. No doubt this helped in diagnosing the prostate cancer early on.

Saw Palmetto may be just a beneficial in treating an enlarged prostate as Finasteride, but you couldn't prove it from my experience.



It is better. U said yourself you started hrt. U stop fina and start testosterone. How much saw palmetto were you taking the berries are worthless.  And was it the 95 standardized extract.

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« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2012, 08:46:30 AM »
A week ago I had a prostatectomy. The Da Vinci robotic surgery took 4 1/2 hours. My doctor thinks the prognosis will be good. He mentioned that my prostate was very large, comparing it to the size of a racket ball. I should get the pathology report back when I get the catheter out next Friday.

All in all, my recovery is going very well. I was up and walking around the hospital nurse's station the next day. Being the tough old bird that I am, I have not been taking much in the way of pain meds....just some Tylenol at first.  Looking back, I would say that it took a couple of days for the anesthetic to completely wear off (maybe because I was under for so long). The hospital stay was only two days. Since being home, I have been pretty active while trying not to lift anything too heavy until my gut heals up some. My stomach looks like I might have been hit with buckshot. There are about 5 little incisions. The largest of them being the vertical one over my navel which is about 2.5 inches long.

Just a reminder to all you men, have PSA tests at least annually. PSA tests are not definitive, but they can indicate when something might be amiss. The other option is simply not to know that you have prostate cancer until it metastasized. That isn't a very good option. Had I not been on TRT and getting PSA tests twice a year, this cancer may not have been caught so early on.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2012, 08:55:11 AM »
I wish you a quick recovery, Prime.  

Lots of us will be facing the same trouble sooner or later so thanks for relating the good advice you've picked up along the way.  Very cool of you to be thinking of your fellow Getbiggers so soon after surgery.

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« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2012, 10:56:14 AM »
A week ago I had a prostatectomy. The Da Vinci robotic surgery took 4 1/2 hours. My doctor thinks the prognosis will be good. He mentioned that my prostate was very large, comparing it to the size of a racket ball. I should get the pathology report back when I get the catheter out next Friday.

All in all, my recovery is going very well. I was up and walking around the hospital nurse's station the next day. Being the tough old bird that I am, I have not been taking much in the way of pain meds....just some Tylenol at first.  Looking back, I would say that it took a couple of days for the anesthetic to completely wear off (maybe because I was under for so long). The hospital stay was only two days. Since being home, I have been pretty active while trying not to lift anything too heavy until my gut heals up some. My stomach looks like I might have been hit with buckshot. There are about 5 little incisions. The largest of them being the vertical one over my navel which is about 2.5 inches long.

Just a reminder to all you men, have PSA tests at least annually. PSA tests are not definitive, but they can indicate when something might be amiss. The other option is simply not to know that you have prostate cancer until it metastasized. That isn't a very good option. Had I not been on TRT and getting PSA tests twice a year, this cancer may not have been caught so early on.
How can you not be aware that your prostate is enlarged.  Could it be that people are too fat to realize?

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« Reply #117 on: July 09, 2012, 05:38:01 PM »
How can you not be aware that your prostate is enlarged.  Could it be that people are too fat to realize?

I have had issues with my prostate since I was a teenager. I am not sure why you would think I didn't know it was enlarged, because I did. I knew it because my doctors told me it was over the years. However, my present urologist was a lot more familiar with my prostate than I was since I never tried to feel it myself and he was surprised that it was as large as it was. Call me weird but I just am not that into sticking my finger up my butt-hole.

I am not sure how being fat would mask knowing ones prostate was enlarged. Can you explain what you mean by this? However, I am not now nor have I ever been fat.

Incidentally, one can have an enlarged prostate and it not mean that they have prostate cancer. My problem was not so much it being enlarged, it was that I was diagnosed with prostate cancer last January. A few months earlier, I'd had a biopsy and it didn't show any cancer. However because my PSA numbers kept climbing while I was on TRT, my doctor and I agreed that it would be a good idea to do another biopsy which is when the cancer was diagnosed. Like I said, TRT may have been my friend in terms of discovering I had prostate cancer early on and hopefully before it spread to any other organs. We'll see.

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« Reply #118 on: July 09, 2012, 05:45:36 PM »
I wish you a quick recovery, Prime.  

Lots of us will be facing the same trouble sooner or later so thanks for relating the good advice you've picked up along the way.  Very cool of you to be thinking of your fellow Getbiggers so soon after surgery.

I am on the bandwagon for men having their PSA checked. There are some folks who think this isn't necessary or even advised because PSA results are not absolute. One can have prostate cancer and still have good PSA scores as well as some have high PSA scores and no cancer. I tended to be in the second catagory until recently. The main thing is that at this point in time there is no other easier way to test for the posibility of prostate cancer. Let me assure everyone that you'd have to be crazy or a masochist to want to have a biopsy every year. They are very uncomfortable and pretty envasive. A PSA is a very simple blood test which can be done at the same time you have a blood draw for other things. I did most of mine when I was preparing for my annual physical.

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #119 on: July 10, 2012, 02:39:19 PM »
Good luck with your recovery.
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« Reply #120 on: July 10, 2012, 04:11:37 PM »
Good luck with your recovery.

Thanks, deadz

Each day is better than the previous one. I feel pretty darn great today. At this point I am biding my time until Friday when the catheter comes out. Frankly, I thought the catheter was going to be more of a problem than it is. I imagined for some reason that having a tube run up the urethra would hurt, but it doesn't. However, it isn't exactly a turn-on either. LOL. On Friday, I graduate to Depends. That ought to be a thrill!

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Re: Prostate Cancer
« Reply #121 on: July 13, 2012, 02:10:25 PM »
Thanks for all your positive thoughts; they apparently did the trick. I saw the urologist today and got the pathology report, which was great! No cancer was found in the margins or lymph nodes. The cancer was completely contained within the prostate, which is gone now. The stage remained at 2 with a Gleason score of 3+3. This is an excellent outcome. I see the doctor again in about a month.

I've been wearing Depends since the catheter came out this morning and so far no leakeage. Yahoo! Next on the agenda is to get a boner. LOL!